Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
70 planes is pretty massive
Dont think Bulgaria have that many operational.
Very educational video.
Peterson is just asking questions here, and his guest is incredibly knowledgeable.
Yes I am well aware of that. As I said, US B61 bombs. Anyway, they have a nuclear capability in that the German Air Force can deliver nuclear weapons from jets they helped to develop and produce.
But agree, US weapons that are provided by them to Germany through NATO.
I think one way to diffuse this may be through back channel negotiations between NATO and Putin, using someone like Macron as an intermediary, where they negotiate some sort of inducement for Putin to pull back in exchange for certain sanctions being lifted. In order for that to work, Putin would have to already be feeling incredible pain back home to where he feels not doing something may jeopardize his grip on power. Only then, would he be incentivized to pull back a bit. But it would only work if the pain and instability in Moscow scare him enough to act.
This of course presupposes that Putin is mentally stable and a rational actor. If he isn't, then I think he doubles down on violence and the chances of NATO/EU military involvement inside Ukraine go up significantly.
It’s essentially so the US can have a strategic position in Europe. Anyway it matters not. The point I was making is the EU alone (as mentioned) doesn’t present much of a threat militarily to Russia. You need to bring the UK and US to the table.
This is why his puffy face worries me.
This war needs to stop before they start sending in war planes to annihilate people, it really isn’t that important for such large scale loss of life. It will just escalate and escalate at this point.
The good old secondment to MI6 is the one I am aware of. Not heard of the leave one before!
Solution is to feed Europe through Iberian Península with US, Algerian, Angolan and Nigerian gas, until recently France was against a pipeline passing through Pyrenees, but now they are considering it. Sines terminal has an enormous capacity to store and process liquid natural gas into gas.
A bit late for that at this point.
Putin really revived NATO. These numbers were unthinkable a few weeks ago.
According to Wikipedia, they have 16 in service, with 2 used to conventional training.
Sounds great.
But we have to ask:
How many are serviceable.
Are they of an equivalent standard to those of Russia and not inferior capability.
Does Ukraine have sufficient trained aircrew to be able to operate these jets.
Do each of them have an up to date IFF system so as to be recognised as not Russian jets.
And do they have sufficient ground crew to be able to service and maintain them.
You know as well as I do if Ukraine start with the air attacks they will too and then it could go anywhere.
Accepted.
You hopefully also know as well as I do that the Russians have been using their air force in this war since Day 1. As have the Ukrainians.
I really don't understand what "escalation" you expect to happen here. The air has been a part of this war the whole time.
Yup. Looks like the only real one who exists is meme called General Denaturov.
The forever drunk Russian general who was handled a military title through connections with Putin. He never fired a weapon, he was just a bodyguard and suddenly he's leading the invasion and he don't know what's happening around him. Also he's directly responsible for Roma gypsies stealing a Russian tank in village of Ljubimovka.
So they found out about it in last 4-5 days?
Very much so, plus how much longer will Ukraine have viable airbases to operate out of?
No, its been planned for months. The invasion probably just gave them a good excuse to proceed with booting them out.
Yeah but they’ll escalate it to a higher degree, I think talks should resume tomorrow.
You give FIFA and UEFA far too much credit. They are just looking after themselves and whatever benefit might occur for somebody else is largely coincidental.
I don't get it. It is espionage. They had to be booted out, with or without the invasion.
I wouldn't be able to answer any of these questions, but I believe the Ukrainian military would've stated what they capabilities are in terms of aircrew, service and maintenance. They would've probably asked for something else had they not have enough personnel. What is the point in having them stationed during a war?
Yeah, this expelling spies stuff is never at face value. If they're actually intel operatives that you already knew of, best to keep monitoring them and their contacts. The only thing you get out of expelling diplomatic personnel is that the number of people with immunity that can potentially be intel operatives gets reduced.
Ukraine's Air Force currently operates Mig-29s and Su-25s, among others. All of Bulgaria, Poland and Slovakia are part of NATO so IFF should be ok, right?.
Well, I hope the Ukrainians are able to have ground crews and pilots to put those aircraft to good use against Russian armored columns, but that's just me.
They still have to build a case to substantiate the espionage before kicking them out, which often takes months.
Depends what they’ve been up to. Sometimes it’s a calculated risk to keep them around and just follow them, but the invasion gives them the pretext to boot them out without too much fuss (although we’ll see).
Likely Russia will turn it off themselves. They can’t get paid for it now excluded from SWIFT.
The Russians will likely expel the same number of diplomats from the US mission in Russia. If some of those are actually CIA case agents, then that's fewer case agents the US has to work sources in Russia.
So would you not have expelled them then?
Michael Kofman is saying now that he is starting to see a shift in tactics from the Russian army that will likely lead to more success for them (waiting for logistics to catch up, using multiple units in concert after softening areas with artillery and airstrikes). Will be concerning to see if this leads to an increase in civilian casualities and/or inability of UKR military to maintain the success they have so far.
I don't care either way. I just want folks to stop acting like FIFA and UEFA did this for Ukraine.