I don't agree with this, it's terrible wherever it happens, and I will always call it out no matter who the actors are.
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ffs, Russian media telling lies about thing that happened in Iceland..
"Russian ambassador here in Iceland was complaining about harassment and sabotage of the embassy building, but Icelandic police said there was no damage done to the embassy."
Just send this clown away!
"Russian ambassador here in Iceland was complaining about harassment and sabotage of the embassy building, but Icelandic police said there was no damage done to the embassy."
Just send this clown away!
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Maybe Hungary since they have them mothballed? And Orban doesn't want to publicly upset his buddy.
You can take the word “disinformation” out of it for all I care - it’s whataboutism-propaganda funded by Russia to divide opinion and shift focus. And by the state of some of the posts in here - they’re doing a pretty good job.
They could join both, except they aren't yet fully qualified to join NATO.
Agree it's not disinformation.
And agree propaganda is being used as tool, has been used even more extensively since social media came about. After following many conflicts during this age I know all about it.
Yes it would.
Article 42.7 obliges EU countries to aid a fellow member state that becomes “the victim of armed aggression on its territory” by “all the means in their power”
NATO is, however, the real power since the EU doesn't have the UK in the treaty anymore, and of course it doesn't have access to the US military.
Sadly starting to see some of Russian propaganda in Polish social media today already. We already have posts claiming there’s no actual war in Ukraine and claims of people having relatives there saying there’s nothing happening. It will grow with each week similar to how we basically went from being one of the countries who dealt the best with the initial phase to the worst hit by the end of the pandemic.
It's only a matter of time before Kiev falls I fear. I hope to god I'm wrong but the numbers just don't add up. Putin has everything in his favour. Without intervention from the west I fear this is the end of the Ukraine at least for now. In the future who know it could be reborn as Putin fails to hold on to it
You are just making up things I haven't said. I'm talking about how people feel, not what's good or bad. War is awful and the West has made errors which has led to many deaths. I am definitely not one to defend these actions.
Shifting focus is a nonsense, that clearly isn't an outcome. People don't have an alloted slot for one bad guy discussion per day, none of this is blocking any focus on Ukraine.
In fairness, someone having relatives in Ukraine where nothing is happening is highly likely, considering the size of the country and how far Russia has got. I'd be more concerned if every single Ukrainian was claiming they had tanks down their street.
I thought that in real terms, article 42.7 involves nothing more than holding bilateral talks with other member states to see what help they may offer - it's not really the same as NATO's article 5, where there's a solid military obligation.
42.7 specifically says "This shall not prejudice the specific character of the security and defence policy of certain member states.”
This convoy is going to be a fecking problem:
I disagree. Shifting focus is clearly an outcome.
I think they are setting up an in-country logistical operation to support the next wave of attackers so they don't run out of guns, ammo, fuel, food etc.
Makes sense.
According to the MSNBC Moscow reporter Keir Simmons, Putin put the Nuke Program on high alert because of something said by the UK Defense Minister on TV.
"That's what wound Putin up."
What did he say?
"That's what wound Putin up."
What did he say?
My kingdom for an A-10 Warthog
Yeah we have seen the end of Ukraine for now guys. They can't win this battle.
They just have to hope they can win the war (the long game) and Putin fails to hold it like we have failed to hold the middle East after troops came home.
The Ukrainians will never forgive him for this. He can't hold them forever
I've already seen military subreddits making memes about these Russian convoys. Salivating almost.
Christ
You said it
No, there are literally people saying Kharkiv and Kyiv are fine and people are living their life as usual.
He will 100% fail to hold it.
Yeah, that's ridicilous.
I still think there are things they can do. To not go into military tactics 101 - But you destroy the first few vehicles, block the road and you bring the whole thing to a halt. You launch sporadic ambushes along it from ditches, treelines, whatever there is... you make them scared to go to sleep in their vehicles. Get your rocket off and get the hell out of dodge.
It's impossible to bring the firepower of all the vehicles (A lot will be logistics etc also) in one go. They really need to mess with it while it's still in a nice convoy.
Seems like the sun is Ukraine's best ally at the moment. Russian seem to have no nighttime tech but they do have rockets which they don't mind firing at civilians.
Liz Truss said something on Sky News basically saying it could escalate or something
https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-...ce-forces-on-high-alert-kremlin-says-12554048
Russia just looking for excuses to do things they want to
They should be droning the hell out of that if they had enough drones and ammo that is.
I'll tell you something, the people in the EU will not be happy with Ukraine joining the EU. I know now there is a war and nobody can say anything, but adding Ukraine to the EU has been suggested before by different politicians in different countries and the people have reacted negatively to it, which is why it was changed to a mere 'economic deal' instead of membership. If Ukraine is added to the EU in an emotional moment now (like the moment when Merkel allowed thousands of Syrian refugees in) it might have dangerous consequences for the EU in the coming years when the war is long forgotten and the EU has to start writing all those checks to Ukraine. And with the added economic pressure (because of the conflict) and knowing they're still secure by being in the NATO I could easily see other EU countries thinking about following on UK's steps. And if trump wins in 2024 then it will be even worse, because Trump hates the EU and sees it as a competitor for the US.
That convoy could be the end of the current resistance from the Ukrainians, they're going to need some serious help, firepower and nasty urban warfare.
Reminds me of the German convoys that formed up prepping to invade France. If they’d have only known about them…
My god, you gotta think that Ukraine has to see an opportunity there. If ever a time to make a gamble. Throw all you’ve got at it
They will have good aerial protection.
It’s not as straightforward in urban combat that more soldiers = easy win either. They may hold. Unfortunately for many of those heroic Ukrainians this will be the last night of their lives, and for many more tomorrow will be the last day of their lives.
Yeah, there's no point binning your remaining drones on a suicide mission when they could potentially take out more when used in areas without the same level of anti-air. It's a tough balance to strike.
Ireland has dropped all visa restrictions for Ukrainians. Once they are here they can go over to the UK under the cta.
I don’t know the geography or how close they are to Kyiv or whether it’s possible, but… can they avoid a direct firefight completely and focus on destroying the roads/approach (like destroying bridges in WWII but on a larger scale)?