They'd possibly be enemy insurgents, better to be safe than sorry.
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Imagine surviving the horrors of Leningrad only to be arrested for protesting against another war.
You’ve honestly lost the plot.
What a moronic suggestion.
Exactly don’t get the fuzz either, it will just be huddle resorts for russians that’s totally different.
No, but you are talking about the American Japanese internment camps, which history have not been kind to.
Wonder how these poor kids will feel when they can't buy the latest bit of apple kit
Watched a bit of RT this morning...gghhheesss.
I'm lying in bed now, all warm and comfy. Reading about the war on my smartphone. It would be so easy for me to complain about morals.
In an ideal world, the Ukrainians resist the urges to get dirty but as many wars have showed, it's probably just not going to happen. Especially when the blatant aggressor here is Russia, invading your country and killing your family and other loved ones.
Focus should be on getting Russia to stop this war and withdraw.
Absolutely not. If NATO shoot down Russian planes inside Ukraine, or whatever it will be a clear declaration of war as any.
Callous maybe, but why didn't they leave when war became inevitable or when other countries told their nationals to leave?
Most of the articles I’ve read on the plane situation seem to rule out EU or NATO countries giving planes to Ukraine. Romania wouldn’t even let a Ukrainian jet return armed with the missiles it arrived with, with the expectation they will have to return by land.
I’m hoping they are going the plausible deniability route and planes will be sold quietly perhaps with Ukrainian livery.
https://newlinesmag.com/reportage/is-poland-sending-fighter-jets-to-ukraine/
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zo...e-last-fighter-ukraine-will-get-for-some-time
Then taking Moldova wouldn’t make much sense.
Didn’t think so. But thought worth asking!
Translation.
Russian crazies recorded a flash mob in support of the military.
The second part of the tweet is the author wondering what kind of apocalypse we/he are/is living in.
Forgot about the last part. He references the second season of Squid game
Twitter doesn’t give you the option of one? It was a flash mob in support of the war apparently. Through the looking glass…
It's a message specific to the artillary gunners that are indescriminately murdering civilians. I don't know what the point is of releasing such a statement, not sure there needs to be one.
Oh yeah I see now that it does. I think it's good etiquette to post the translation in here, so people don't have to go to Twitter to see it if they're lazy like me.
Hmm.
Doesn't change the fact that it is actual war crime and direct propaganda fuel.
Its just a threat, for now.
That is a war prisoners right under humanitarian international law.
I personally have no real interest in videos of people lying dead in the streets when the families haven't consented to it being shared either. Having seen it in real life, I am very pro civvies seeing the real horrors of war. But if some idiot filmed my loved ones dead on the floor and posted it online without my consent, I'd set it to record while I stuck it up their ass.
Putin already has a buffer in Moldova - Transnistria. Another breakaway state which conveniently is on the east border. If we go by Putin's book of war, generally he uses the same step to invade other countries, but in Moldova's case I'm not sure why he would need it or engage in another economical turmoil. He won't gain much, especially if he controls Odessa.
I would guess a slightly cynical reading of why people might not be queuing up to hand over planes is that they're also bloody expensive. If they are not going to tip the balance and/or end up getting shot down its a massive loss and they don't get built overnight to be replaced. I can't see what the ethical difference is supposed to be between providing weapons that kill and airplanes that kill. I think it's probably finances (unfortunately) and training required to use them.
You are really against the POW videos? Seems to be a non-issue to me.
These guys aren't being humiliated, they will be among some of the best kept pow's in history (unless they are an art gunner
). When that line was written into the Geneva convention 70+ years ago I think they had something else in mind.I generally do try and post a translated re-tweet, if I stumble across it first.
Putin won’t ever have any single piece of repercussion for anything he’s done - he’s manipulated and infiltrated not just his own country, but the World, and no one ever does anything.
Infiltrates U.S government, instals a puppet president in America (!!!) and leaves America bordering on a race war - no come back
Infiltrates Britain and Brexit and isolates the U.K, also funds up the rise of Farage and tears apart Britain’s culture - no come back
Funds up the rise of the new Far-Right across Europe - no come back
Makes up laughable new laws so he can’t be voted out, demeans the Russian public - no come back
Countless murders of journalists - no come back
Countless high profile poisonings of rivals - no come back
Chechnya - no come back
Crimea - no come back
This will be no different. Sanctions won’t affect him at all (they’ll be prepared for and if he doesn’t like them will just bully the civilised World into easing them) and clearly no one in Russia can get to him.
He’ll never be brought down Gadaffi / Saddam style - there’s literally no chance of it happening.
The World is essentially being held to ransom by a meddlesome, sadistic Bond villain who cries ‘Nukes’ like a spoiled toddler whenever he doesn’t get his own way.
Hopefully future generations can learn from where we went wrong and prevent such a situation from occurring again.
Why not? Non NATO member and if Russia take Odessa they have that shoreline completely. If they get east Ukraine with NATO unable to interervene why would there be more resistance or make no sense to take Moldova?
They will be scared shitless, in some they are clearly terrified. The one I took issue with was a guy crying to his mum on the phone. When will he ever get back home? Who knows. It's not something that needs to be posted online.
When will Ukrainians get back home? Who knows, but if they want to record attacks against them, or document what is happening to them and put them online that is their right, no issue with that specifically.
Ukraine are alone, nobody is directly helping them while Russia are killing civilians and have the help of Belarus and Chechens. Why should Ukraine play by the rules anymore?
Very grim and yet expected with the recent turn of events in Mariupol.
The real question now is whether or not Putin is ready to sacrifice an entire generation of young Russians just like a few of his foolish predecessors, especially a senile Leonid Brezhnev did during the Soviet-Afghan War.
I don't think that's it because for instance 22 of Poland's MiG 29 planes were bought from Germany for a symbolic price of 1euro per plane, and those are planes the Ukrainians also use so would be helpful. But yeah even though from what I read they were planning on replacing them at some point anyway, replacing them would take some time and they might not want to give them away in case this escalates beyond Ukraine.
Something I've found very frustrating when watching the news and they use translators.
BBC and Sky, the person translating seems to barely be able to understand what they are saying and so their translation is really poor.
Can they simply not use a native tongue who speaks good English to do this job.
Seems like they ask a Finnish guy who has learnt some Russian or Ukrainian to then translate into English.
Today, I found it really frustrating and more annoying than ever.
And it was a taped video, not even live and they still couldn't keep up.
BBC and Sky, the person translating seems to barely be able to understand what they are saying and so their translation is really poor.
Can they simply not use a native tongue who speaks good English to do this job.
Seems like they ask a Finnish guy who has learnt some Russian or Ukrainian to then translate into English.
Today, I found it really frustrating and more annoying than ever.
And it was a taped video, not even live and they still couldn't keep up.
Most of them are students. Indian students (about 20000 of them) study in Ukraine. That is more than a quarter of the foreign students in Ukraine. They could not get availability on flights fast enough. Many tickets were gone. Many flights were from Kyiv. Not sure if there was a money issue. Not everyone had enough spare money.
Anyways, the larger point is that they are stuck, they made it to the railway stations. It seems completely inhuman to kick them out of the trains.
I rather suspect that by the time this is over we'll have seen so many more egregious violations of international law and POW rights that filming them calling their parents will seem irrelevant.
Fecking Sky News had the rolling ticker saying Kim Kardashian is officially single whilst civilians are being bombed in Ukraine.
Because the current and eventual help Ukraine receives is predicated on them being the good guys in the eyes of the world. The discrimination on the border is not exactly helping and I hope its rectified soon , and this message for killing POW is really not helping. Its an actual war crime that does not achieve much. It will just make the Russians less likely to surrender.
No doubt, but none of those can be influenced by not repeating them here.
I have to watch Sky News in moderation.
BBC and Al Jezeer have been better than Sky and their CNN style of reporting.
Just wish they would get proper translators.