I think that's the joke but it definitely didn't come off.
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Russia is doing quite well in the south. But they are literally stuck in the mud in the north.
And in general they are advancing, they are just performing worse than expected while the Ukrainians are doing much better than expected.
I don't think I've seen anything that suggests they're losing the war, more so that they are meeting much fiercer resistance than they anticipated and it's not going at all to plan. Obviously they will overcome Ukrainian forces eventually but it has clearly been a much more difficult and costly fight than they'd hoped it would be, and they've been punished by the west far more than they probably would have expected, too.
Sorry - who from the west has said Russia aren’t going to take the major cities in Ukraine? It’s inevitable they’ll take Kyiv. That doesn’t mean they’re going to “win” the war in the long term.
We are not at war with Russia. They're invading Ukraine which is being backed in a limited sense by the west. I'm not sure anyone sensible thought that any Russian invasion would fail. Most sensible people thought that it would've been easier for Russia than it has been. Most people hope that Ukraine can prevail against the odds.
Russia is suffering much heavier casualties than anyone thought they would, they're also being held back by heavy resistance that is doing a much better job than anyone thought. Just because he captured a power plant, doesn't mean he's beaten the West, because if it came down to it, the West would win the war before Putin could even take a piss.
To be fair Im pretty sure selling the mansions for several million pounds and then buying something like 50 flats / houses is going to be more impactful
The economic sanctions are beginning to take effect. Russian debt is crashing and they have started missing interest payments. Doesn't count as a default yet but it's not good and they will be paying for it in the form of higher interest rates for years.
Wonder if Jacob Rees Mogg has been advising the Oligarchs on disaster capitalism.The economic sanctions are beginning to take effect. Russian debt is crashing and they have started missing interest payments. Doesn't count as a default yet but it's not good and they will be paying for it in the form of higher interest rates for years.
Why doesn’t it make sense?
Narrative has been the same since about day 2. Russia will eventually take over all the Eastern big cities and likely Kyiv but have underestimated resistance levels and suffered a lot of casualties (how many we don’t know but Russia said 500 and currently Ukraine says 6000+). Anything near a hostile border will be taken by Putin. We don’t know if they’ll stop at Kyiv and then push onto Lviv but it would arguably be amongst the biggest military feck ups ever by Russia if Ukraine could actually ‘win’ on its own given the military difference in every single department that Russia has.
Make no mistake, being able to just bombard the hell out of cities and destroy them isn't 'winning the war'.
I think it more or less looks like this, based on what I've read and discussed with people who know way more than me:
- Russia tried to take the country quickly and install their own government, it turned out resistance was much harder than they expected and they were not as welcome there as they thought
- Russia have now entered a strategy of just hammering cities, to which Ukraine can put no resistance
- There is no realistic chance of Russia holding all of Ukraine over the long term, so most likely they will sit on the Eastern Ukraine where the resources are, and may give less attention to Western Ukraine
- Ukraine are keeping a lot of their resources on the West of the country too, in order to ensure that supplies keep coming
- NATO and US have done their work in terms of equipment and sanctions but will not make any further steps in order to not escalate this into WW3. They are most likely hoping that over the long term sanctions are going to impact Russia and cause change in order. Chances of global military conflict are miniscule.
- It was a grossly miscalculated invasion which has gone much worse than Russia had planned for
- In the meantime thousands if not millions of civilians are going to die just because Putin does not like how hard it is to invade a sovereign country and make it yours.
It is apparently difficult to not be racist on tv.
Looks now as if the Russian attacks in the north of Ukraine are a feint, the real push is in the south to isolate Ukraine from the sea. Once that happens they have a big advantage because roads to and from Poland, Moldova, Hungary will be block by refugees seeking to get out and this will make getting provisions into the Ukraine much more difficult.
If help from the West/NATO is coming for Ukraine, it needs to come quick.
If help from the West/NATO is coming for Ukraine, it needs to come quick.
I agree, it was years ago he was quoted as saying he will take US out of NATO if he won in 2020.
He is going around now saying its thanks to him that other NATO members are spending more on military and unfortunately some people still fall for his bollocks.
He isn't that wrong. If you can’t rely on the US, you invest more in your own capabilities.
Knew I'd get a comeback. Yes, if the US is taken over by a Russian puppet then everyone else needs to up their security.Surely it's all flown in to around Lviv and the Western part? Avoid the roads etc.
Is admittedly a grim outlook though. It's clear the Russian aim was cutting off Ukraine from the Black Sea, which will absolutely screw any future Ukrainian state economically if the Russians don't leave.
This is such a mess, it's so difficult to see how this is going to end.
It truly is. I'm always amazed that it even works, that people don't desert en masse once they are being told to go and kill people they personally have no gripe with or who they even thought were their friends. I can understand fighting to defend your country, but I truly can't comprehend going to another country to kill people on behalf of some rich fecks who of course don't risk their lives in the war.
Well of course there is the problem that you will be threatened with jail or being shot if you don't fight, at which point it becomes probably a question do I rather kill someone I have no problem with or risk being killed if I don't fight.
What's next, gulags?
No, it wasn't funny unfortunately.
‘It makes no difference what men think of war, said the judge. War endures. As well ask men what they think of stone. War was always here. Before man was, war waited for him. The ultimate trade awaiting its ultimate practitioner. That is the way it was and will be. That way and not some other way.’
Long before the nuclear option, Putin would drop a couple of thermobaric bombs on Kiyv and tell Zelensky they will drop one every successive day until Ukraine surrenders. I can't imagine any leader would let that continue for more than a few days.
They have already kind of being going down that route by destroying cities beyond any reason.
Putin hasn't even begun with his most frightful non-nuclear weapons... And if he wants Ukraine to surrender, then surely all his efforts need to be directed at Kiyv.
That eventuality is unlikely not to trigger some response from NATO, so it would be unlikely to continue every successive day. It would simply escalate the conflict in terms of Western involvement.
The West will, under no circumstances, get militaristically involved
@golden_blunder i thought I’d get a warning for abuse. But homophobia
wtf.It’s a reference to this image that is banned is Russia because Putin is homophobic
These guys got it
Well let's be completely honest, it's only a matter of time till Russia takes Kyiv. Despite all the social media noise and media, everyone knows this. So if they aren't doing anything now I fail to see why they'll do anything in that scenario either.
Modern deployed physics packages are thermonuclear fission bombs. They use regular fission cores which are boosted by tritium gas, in a process that I won't describe here. That is very different from a hydrogen (fusion) device which although can reach greater yield is impractical and requires certain conditions which are hard to maintain.
Thanks for clarifying they've not been invaded, really helpful
My point is if people think the west would use a nuke in a scenario of being heavily invaded then they shouldn't be so sure Putin won't. His downfall is the equivalent situation for him and we're fast approaching that point.
BBG terminal is very interesting to explore during times like these.The economic sanctions are beginning to take effect. Russian debt is crashing and they have started missing interest payments. Doesn't count as a default yet but it's not good and they will be paying for it in the form of higher interest rates for years.
Vladimir Putin has warned Russia’s neighbours “not to escalate the situation” by imposing more restrictions on his country.
The Russian president was speaking at a government meeting broadcast today:
Russia did not see “any need” to “aggravate or worsen” relations with other countries, he continued.
The Russian president was speaking at a government meeting broadcast today:
Russia did not see “any need” to “aggravate or worsen” relations with other countries, he continued.
I was saying from day one, Russian citizens are responsible for what is happening, I read somewhere that Putin’s popularity increased by 11% based on this war against Ukraine. It should tell you everything you need to know. Sure there are plenty of decent Russians that have gone to protests etc., but majority has been brainwashed or have complete apathy towards what’s happening, unfortunately.
Breaking: Spain’s foreign minister says @NATO will discuss possible intervention and no-fly zone in Ukraine during a Friday summit of the US-led military alliance
https://t.co/bUgFws3Ph1 via @financialtimes
Edit: sorry it's the phone
https://t.co/bUgFws3Ph1 via @financialtimes
Edit: sorry it's the phone
I'm not sure I like this being in the open so much
Alas a discussion means very little when the whole of NATO seem to be behind not advocating a no fly zone.
Sorry it’s just not funny and I don’t think it’s right for this thread. The fact that others took it the same way should suggest that you need to examine your way of posting@golden_blunder i thought I’d get a warning for abuse. But homophobia
It’s a reference to this image that is banned is Russia because Putin is homophobic
These guys got it