Canceling an entire country. Scary to think about.
I do worry that this will only just make Russia that much more reliant on China.
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I do worry that this will only just make Russia that much more reliant on China.
Pepsi is a better company due to Mountain Dew alone.
I believe McDonalds haven't either (as of yesterday)
Well they invented Fanta for the Nazis, so no shock here.
Given how badly the US coalition beat Wagners' forces in Syria, I can understand why Western volunteers would worry Russia.
reverse iron curtain?
I have many many Serbian friends an ex colleagues. They want this to end ASAP. They don't want NATO or anyone to get involved, they have seen the backlash in their own country.
Russians might also see breathing as stealing oxygen from their troops and therefore intervention. Who is really the paranoid side if you're constantly worrying about nuclear consequences, even when you're talking about doing things on your own soil? If everyone was thinking like that there wouldn't be any help for Ukraine at all.
You can only cry nuke so many times. At some point people would stop caring and gerrowithit.
North Korea just fired another missile according to South Korea
You really do learn something new everyday here
Yep.
I can only see two outcomes....Putin escalates a european or world war....or Russia fails and he gets murdered.
Not to provide an excuse for them but from what I've read the company that supplies Russia is only 23% owned by Coca-Cola. What I read being suggested is that Coca Cola can still stop the delivery of syrup which is the main ingredient.
It's absolutely frightening on so many fronts.
First, the fact the West has just pulled the proverbial plug on the Russian economy. Of course, it's their own fault they're so dependant on other countries for, well, anything beyond oil and other commodities.
Second, Russia can literally become North Korea's big brother and then you just never know. I hope the US has calculated the pressure exerted so far and planned does not lead to the opposite reaction. They are toeing a fine line and the fact they are avoiding the war crime accusation so far (and were quick to shut down the one from their Ukrainian embassy) appears to confirm that.
At some point, they will claim they are pulling out.... only when they cant get paid anymore.
The Russian oligarchs that had their properties seized by governments around Europe and at least a good portion of their stocks decimated can't happy with how this has turned out.
As inappropriate as Lindsey Graham's public comments were about assassinating Putin, I wouldn't be surprised if there are attempts at mutiny at some point.
Fixed that post for you. Garbage company that promotes bad habits
Well I don't know about any of you but I'd like to know if Hugo Boss have come out against this war? They have alot of making upto do still and cancel Russians looking dapper
Those are two pretty unlikely extremes in fairness.
Unless you're being sarcastic. I'm not even sure in this thread anymore.
Saw that a poll in Sweden showed 51% of the population supporting joining NATO now.
Wow, is that true?
All I've been seeing from officials today is basically condemning Russia for attacking a nuclear plant and then in the next sentence saying, oh, BTW please don't do it again, like it's a smack on the wrist.
It's crazy how scared everyone seems to be of Putin right now.
It's crazy how scared everyone seems to be of Putin right now.
This is no excuse, targeting of civilians is also a war crime. So to say "well we didn't know who they were so we just opened fire" is not an excuse, its a confession.
During the Second World War, the US established a trade embargo against Nazi Germany, making the export of Coca-Cola syrup difficult.[2] To circumvent this, Max Keith, the head of Coca-Cola Deutschland (Coca-Cola GmbH), decided to create a new product for the German market, using only ingredients available in Germany at the time
Putins masterplan could bankrupt his country, potentially lead to more civil unrest (and possibly removal of him… literally or figuratively, I’m easy) and see NATO get stronger.
Genius.
Add to the list.
Has Nestle said anything?
Guys, this might be our chance to cancel Nestle!
Guys, this might be our chance to cancel Nestle!
Quite.
I'm putting my optimists hat on. This is going terribly for Russia both in terms of in the theatre but also economically and politically. They may have poorly trained reserves in Russia they could try to deploy, but I'm not sure what the point would be, I doubt they could supply them or how effective they would be.
My wife said to me a few days ago "Russia are going to win aren't they?" and I said emphatically "No". The kind of force Russia has available is not enough to both conquer and occupy a country of 45 million people when those people are motivated, which they clearly are. I saw an estimate there are 8 million working aged men in Ukraine, if you can mobilize just 10% of those, that's 800k men who are fighting for their very existence. And let's be frank, when a country faces an existential thread, I think 10% is conservative and we're not even counting the very real impact that the older men and women could have.
I see this ending very badly for Russia and for Putin, I think he has miscalculated very badly here and its going to be the end of him.
#NoFlyZone trending on Twitter as both the BBC and CNN mindlessly and unsubtly push for it.
Fecking idiots.
Fecking idiots.
Assuming that Putin is not somehow removed from office by internal powers in Russia, and regardless of how the situation in Ukraine turns out (whether further partition, or ongoing insurgent resistance against a Russian "victory"), direct military conflict between NATO and Russia now looks inevitable in the medium term .
This is because Russia has set out red-lines that NATO and the EU simply can't live with ... red lines which say that Russia has the right to exercise a veto on whether additional sovereign nations can join NATO and/or the EU.
Sooner or later, and probably sooner, Finland or Sweden or some other European country is going apply to be accepted into NATO membership. Before the application is accepted, Putin will then be obliged to take action to avoid his threat being exposed as a bluff.
At this point, I believe NATO will respond by sending military units into the country concerned, regardless of whether the NATO membership application has still to be formally accepted.
Then things will become really dangerous in terms of a real WWIII potentially breaking out.
This is because Russia has set out red-lines that NATO and the EU simply can't live with ... red lines which say that Russia has the right to exercise a veto on whether additional sovereign nations can join NATO and/or the EU.
Sooner or later, and probably sooner, Finland or Sweden or some other European country is going apply to be accepted into NATO membership. Before the application is accepted, Putin will then be obliged to take action to avoid his threat being exposed as a bluff.
At this point, I believe NATO will respond by sending military units into the country concerned, regardless of whether the NATO membership application has still to be formally accepted.
Then things will become really dangerous in terms of a real WWIII potentially breaking out.
Trending where?
I view world wide trends and the war / Ukraine hardly gets mentioned in top trends aside from the first 2 days.
The short term (today to next 6 months) pressures like economic/financial pressures on Russia will be enormous. Then the bodybags will start to take its psychological toll after that.
So whats medium term in your scenario? Will Putin last till that 'medium term'?
They would deserve it, have you seen how small their Quality Street tins have become? Cancel immediately
I dunno, just logged in to Twitter and clicked on 'news' and this was the highest trending hashtag:
Medium term is maybe 6 months to 3 years from now. Unless he dies from natural causes, my guess is that Putin will still be in power during this period.
Based on the recent polling that has come out about 74% of Americans in favor of no-fly zone, I feel that Western leaders may be forced to reconsider if Russia uses biological/chemical/thermobaric weapons or level cities to the ground indiscriminately. I think Russia suspect this so that's why they haven't gone full Aleppo yet.