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Well...no. They'd have to organise a mutiny all together or it wouldn't work. And they'd also have to be aware that the propaganda they were being fed was completely wrong. I'm not saying they're entirely innocent, nor that I'm not glad the pilots are getting shot down and captured, but I certainly don't think they're all evil. One bad act can be better than another bad act, and furthermore both bad actors can be victims of their bosses / circumstances.
If you were flying over a capital city dropping bombs you’d have to be pretty naive not to think there’s a realistic chance you could be blowing up innocents. It’s a (relatively) indiscriminate way of fighting, there’s no way to be sure of what you’re hitting
 
A few of tomorrows papers are mentioning that Putin is terminally ill with bowel cancer.

Pure scaremongering.

All to sell papers, Trump was suffering from dementia according to all and sundry and turned out to be bollocks.
 
Pure scaremongering.

All to sell papers, Trump was suffering from dementia according to all and sundry and turned out to be bollocks.
Did it? He inadvertently admitted he undertook a dementia examination.
 
A few of tomorrows papers are mentioning that Putin is terminally ill with bowel cancer.

I've read the report in the daily star. He's got a puffy face and has been looking angry recently. Death is imminent.
 
Which papers?

This story has been floating around this evening on twitter.

What I saw, was it was someone's opinion from looking at him on TV and blaming his steroid usage for his ill health, so I wouldn't trust this.
 
Did it? He inadvertently admitted he undertook a dementia examination.

Well he will probably be on the Republican ticket so guessing he is far from ‘curtains’ can’t stand the fecker but sick of these clickbait headlines for clicks and likes.

I follow but try to avoid speaking in politics threads but remember seeing plenty of posts (here included) saying Trump is toast and feck all happens.

Pure scaremongering and playing on peoples fears
 
Well...no. They'd have to organise a mutiny all together or it wouldn't work. And they'd also have to be aware that the propaganda they were being fed was completely wrong. I'm not saying they're entirely innocent, nor that I'm not glad the pilots are getting shot down and captured, but I certainly don't think they're all evil. One bad act can be better than another bad act, and furthermore both bad actors can be victims of their bosses / circumstances.

No amount of propaganda should override your basic human insight that bombing apartment buildings full of civilians is okay.
 
Pure scaremongering.

All to sell papers, Trump was suffering from dementia according to all and sundry and turned out to be bollocks.

"Person man woman camera tv" really sold me on his mental health. Even if he doesn't have dementia, he has multiple mental illnesses that are plain to see.
 
Was it though?
Just because we don’t have proof it’s true doesn’t mean it isn’t ……

Doesn’t mean it is true either.

Feck I hope Putin and Trump kick the bucket but to say Putin has cancer (which inadvertently means he doesn’t give a feck) is just scaremongering for profit.

Imagine an older person who has been locked up for a year or so due to covid and now has nuclear war to look forward to.

Scum of the earth just for money.
 
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For someone upheld as a sensible intelligence source, how idiotic is Rubio for posting images from the zoom call with the Ukraine president?

Apparently he was very friendly with Putin under Trump from some of the Twitter comments.
 
So Mr average Joe Russians card will still work when he picks up his groceries
Pretty sure, yes.
Well actually it’s not clear. Visa were much more specific in what they said as you noted. But Mastercard were not as clear, although no reason to suspect they’d be different. Visa and Mastercard are basically networks which facilitate messaging between the customers bank and card issuer, and the merchants bank and acquirer. If Mastercard are “suspending their network” in Russia, it means they could potentially mean they are processing NO transactions through their network at all. So it could mean Mr Average Joe Russki might not be able to use his card.
 
I have a Russian friend here in Denmark who's been here quite long (went to highschool here etc.). Anyway, she has been critical of the war on especially Instagram. Now she's stopped being that as she knows a Russian guy in Germany who got a letter that he was a traitor after being critical of Russia on Facebook. Following that his parents in Russia had a visit from police or whoever ransacking the place.

That’s fecking terrifying and shameful. Like one of the World’s super-powers is run by a crazy paranoid husband… it’s just insane.

Unbelievable!!! Trump in his second term would take US out of NATO, that's what Putin was waiting to invade Ukraine, says John Bolton.


Let's all remember that it's at least plausible that Trump will get his second term in 2024. All this 'NATO coming together' stuff is great, but Europe needs to prepare for the possibility that the defensive future doesn't include the US.

Yeah for sure. That needs to be SHUT DOWN. Sensible Americans seriously need to reclaim what it is to be patriotic from these Putin trolls.

Trump needs to be firmly cast as what he is - a Putin puppet and a danger to America and the free World.
 
Can win be a loss?
The first map is extremely inaccurate and totally misleading.

And yes the win will be a loss. Russia will probably occupy some important cities, but they will struggle to keep them and end up paying a huge price.
 
No amount of propaganda should override your basic human insight that bombing apartment buildings full of civilians is okay.

Yes but if you see it as you or them, what are you going to do? You can hardly just say no to your bosses and expect to avoid jail/death/whatever in the Russian military right now. They'd have to organise a co-ordinated strike/mutiny, very difficult to act alone. I'm not saying none of them are baddies btw, end of the day most people who join the military voluntarily like fighting, but I don't think they're on the same level of culpability as Putin, his government and the military top brass and secret service.
 
Agreed on there possibly being different tactics, but the reports about their lack of fuel after three days don't exactly point to genius strategic planning on this part

`Assuming this is true of course. Reports of fuel shortages, with no actual evidence to back this up. So far the western military experts being paraded by the media have got nearly everything wrong. They make assertions with nothing to back those assertions up. Even dreaming up ridiculous stories about the Russians preparing a false flag attack. Using crisis actors as Russian casualties. This sort of nonsense would not look out of place on a QAnon website. What about the capture of Europes largest nuclear power station. These so called experts didn't see that one coming, did they. The trouble is that we in the west are being fed a totally one sided view by a media that is supposed to impartial. About as impartial as the state run TV in Russia. One thing is certain about these sanctions is that it will push the Russians into closer political and economic ties with China and is incredibly myopic.