F1 2022 Season

If Red Bull really turned down the chance to inspect and replace a dodgy fuel pump part during testing, when other teams did, you'd have to call that a spectacular own goal.

This E10 business can get to feck though.
 
What a cracking race, really impressed with Leclerc throughout. Brilliantly defended the start, very strong retaking Max a few times and the aced the restart.
 
900 days plus since the last Ferrari win. I really hope I don't have to wait another 900 days for the next one. Lewis is great as a P3 winner he is such a gracious loser, at least to Ferrari. It might be that he knows that Ferrari will implode and Mercs will improve.
 
hobbers said:
If Red Bull really turned down the chance to inspect and replace a dodgy fuel pump part during testing, when other teams did, you'd have to call that a spectacular own goal.

This E10 business can get to feck though.
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Almost as if it wasn't the pump itself, but something leading up to it. Because it's funny how it was just RB and just happened to get the only two fecked ones.



christy87 said:
What’s the story with E10
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It's shite and a con.
 
Finally got to watch the entire gp, what an ending. Brilliant. RB screw up was great to watch as was max throwing his toys out of the pram.

Though i have 20+ pages of comments to catch up on.
 
Redlambs said:
Almost as if it wasn't the pump itself, but something leading up to it. Because it's funny how it was just RB and just happened to get the only two fecked ones.





It's shite and a con.
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The race have a bit on the fuel pump and blame it on the fact RB didn’t do much low fuel testing unlike the mercs and Ferrari, which is when the problem would show up and this happens because of it.
 
So the latest seems to be that Red Bull cocked up. The fuel line part or whatever it is actually called was changed by every other team in testing after running full race distance apart from RedBull, who didnt do any full race distance runs in testing.

#selfinflicted
#hahahahahahaha
 
One race in and this thread has already gone down the toilet.
 
I thought today was a decent race. The 3 lap battle between Max and Leclerc was great and we spent more time watching the back markers fight which is always good. Seeing bottom of the grid teams fighting in the midfield is awesome to see. Obviously whoever has the better engine is always going to be in front and it's going to be all about them, shit engines can't keep up with great engines so that should be a given. What happened today outside of that was really good to see.
 
dinostar77 said:
So the latest seems to be that Red Bull cocked up. The fuel line part or whatever it is actually called was changed by every other team in testing after running full race distance apart from RedBull, who didnt do any full race distance runs in testing.

#selfinflicted
#hahahahahahaha
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Yeah it was rough. To be fair I had to rewatch Hamiltons "shit, we can't box?" and Toto's "no Mikey, no..." to put me back in the good mood. #blessed
 
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arthurka said:
900 days plus since the last Ferrari win. I really hope I don't have to wait another 900 days for the next one. Lewis is great as a P3 winner he is such a gracious loser, at least to Ferrari. It might be that he knows that Ferrari will implode and Mercs will improve.
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Judging by their speed, and Leclerc's driving today, no way it's 900 days. Should be plenty of wins this season. Not convinced by Sainz. I think he's going to be playing second fiddle like Perez and Bottas last year.
 
senorgregster said:
Judging by their speed, and Leclerc's driving today, no way it's 900 days. Should be plenty of wins this season. Not convinced by Sainz. I think he's going to be playing second fiddle like Perez and Bottas last year.
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You know Carlos beat LeClerc last season... He was only 1tenth off Charles in quali. Yes I'd put LeClerc as the naturally quicker driver but Sainz is very good, he'll be there or there abouts. I hope. Especially with these tyres, Sainz tyre management could be huge over the season.
 
Well, I’ll start out by saying a massive feck you to the entire Red Bull garage. Now that I’ve discouraged about 30% of readers from continuing with my post, I’ll continue with some perhaps more mature analysis.

The Ferrari looks very quick, the power unit is obviously exceptional, as you can see from the other teams they are supplying. Excellent drive from LeClerc too. The brief battle with Verstappen was excellent.

I don’t think Red Bull will be hampered for long, although it’ll be interesting to see how reliable the Honda PU is.

Great drives from Lewis and Russel. You could see the car porpoising and that just be a bitch to handle lap after lap. They were well off the pace overall but made the most of what they were given. To get 3rd and 4th is fantastic, even if it comes courtesy of two retirements. You still have to drive it through the finish line and the car wasn’t easy to handle today.

I think the Merc has tons of untapped potential. When they figure it out it’s going to rival Ferrari and RBR and we are going to have a humdinger of a season.

Zhou picked up a point on his debut in a very good car, albeit 7 seconds behind his experienced team mate. Massive shame the much superior Ilott wasn’t given the drive instead.

Massive result for Magnusson, who I couldn’t be happier for. Hugely outperformed Schumi Jr. The Haas looks quick this year.

Bitterly disappointing, but expected, from McLaren. Probably my favourite team. I think they are in big trouble. They are struggling for mechanical and aerodynamic grip, and the more needed downforce they are able to generate, they are going to face more porpoising. They just don’t have the test laps in the other teams do because of the brakes issue, which itself seems like a design flaw. I can see them picking up half a second, but that barely gets them to midfield. The second or so they need, is a long way off. At best I think it’s going to be a difficult few races for them. Massive shame because I was hoping we’d be looking at a 4 way battle with Merc, RBR, and Ferrari.
 
Does being an F1 fan come with an engineering degree or something? How the feck does the average follower pick up on fuel pump issues and laminar flow and all that tosh...
 
Everyone else; Bitching about Red Bull and Mercedes.

Me:

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adexkola said:
Does being an F1 fan come with an engineering degree or something? How the feck does the average follower pick up on fuel pump issues and laminar flow and all that tosh...
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Well some of us are just generally really into cars or motorsport. Personally I’ve heavily modified my car, picking up a lot of DIY skills and knowledge along the way, and I Autocross and track fairly regularly. F1 is obviously a billion miles away from that but it does give you a decent understanding/appreciation of some of the engineering.

The other big thing is that a lot of people, myself included, are paraphrasing things we’ve heard or read elsewhere - from truly knowledgeable people - just so we can look smarter.

To be honest it’s 90% the latter.
 
adexkola said:
Does being an F1 fan come with an engineering degree or something? How the feck does the average follower pick up on fuel pump issues and laminar flow and all that tosh...
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Not all sports fan bases are as thick as footballs.

It comes from just having an interest in the sport, you pick up stuff like this. It's no different really to tactics etc in football.

But no one was sat at home going "I bet its the bloody fuel pump Jane" before red bull or commentary said it.
 
Just out of interest does yesterday count as a grand slam for le clerc? Pole, win, fastest lap, led every lap (I think?).
 
Although maybe not the most enthralling race ever, I enjoyed F1's return. There are some great stories emerging from that first weekend, and with the next GP being next week it will be interesting to see if any teams can make big improvements in such a short space of time. Good to see Ferrari score a 1-2, I like both their drivers and if they can maintain performance they should be there or there abouts. Merc got a gift with both RB's retiring. McLaren have to get themselves sorted and quickly. Delighted for Haas and Gunther Steiner!
 
Buster15 said:
A huge fuss about nothing. It is supposed to be the same as the standard E10 petrol you get from a petrol station. The 10 refers to 10% bio fuel.
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It's a bit more than that. Because the 10% burns less efficiently you need to use more fuel to extract the same amount of energy, and the less efficient the engine the more you need to use and therefore carry. More fuel = more weight.
 
Is the Mercedes lack of pace possibly also compounded by a weaker power unit? Looking at the other Mercedes powered cars finishing down the order.

How long are they able to upgrade the power unit before it is locked in? I recall there are some tight restrictions this year.
 
11101 said:
It's a bit more than that. Because the 10% burns less efficiently you need to use more fuel to extract the same amount of energy, and the less efficient the engine the more you need to use and therefore carry. More fuel = more weight.
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Yes I understand that. But all of the engine manufacturers have been aware of this for some time and should have done the necessary work to manage the different fuel. Mercedes especially have a significant partner in Petronas that they keep reminding us of.
 
Fluctuation0161 said:
Is the Mercedes lack of pace possibly also compounded by a weaker power unit? Looking at the other Mercedes powered cars finishing down the order.

How long are they able to upgrade the power unit before it is locked in? I recall there are some tight restrictions this year.
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Yes, and it probably comes down to the E10 issue raised earlier. They can't get the power from it somehow but Mercedes has traditionally had the best engine department so they should be able to fix it quite quickly.
 
Fluctuation0161 said:
Is the Mercedes lack of pace possibly also compounded by a weaker power unit? Looking at the other Mercedes powered cars finishing down the order.

How long are they able to upgrade the power unit before it is locked in? I recall there are some tight restrictions this year.
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Merc are saying they were overwinged to compensate for the higher ride height to deal with porpoising which does make sense as you would lose a chunk of downforce running higher.

However the speed trap figures for all teams don't lie, there appears to be a deficit there.
 
All the Mercedes powered cars are aerodynamically a mess so it's a bit more complicated than saying the engine is the problem just yet. Mercedes speed trap times were not too bad either despite the issues they are facing.
 
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