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SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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Yeah, that really sounds like Covid Aids @Big-Red . RIP in pieces.
They won't, and nobody but the HSE is clamouring for it, which is my point, cause I said months ago they'd use any surge in Covid to try cover their arses.
As Donnelly said, the only thing that would solve this is much tight restrictions again which is a complete no-no.
Besides, isn't hundreds of thousands of people a week getting such a mild variant (and ICU numbers remaining very low) a really good thing? let it spread, I say!
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Yeah medical talking heads on full speed today in Ireland.
Thats only the reported cases sure.
I don’t have the gif of you dancing on my phone but I’ll be sure to recreate it at your funeral
I also hold the media responsible. Any time there's any mention of a surge in cases or higher hospital numbers it's straight to the frontpage. Even that RTE article is completely misleading because the headline implies Donnelly wants more restrictions when he doesn't. It's been a massve cash cow for them all for the last few years and they love the scaremongering.
True enough. Anything divisive is money. Even amongst people I'd consider reasonable there's still a lot of covid fear but like, this is it, this is the best it's going to be for now. And any burst in numbers drives that fear on one side, and the talk of restrictions drives the other side. While we all sit in the middle with a pint.
Oh god.
At least tell the people it’s mandatory to wear masks on public transport and in shops
That’s basically the logic NPHET used when they got rid of all restrictions. And it’s working well so far. It does cause massive headaches in hospitals, though, where covid positive patients have to be isolated even if they’re not very sick (from covid). Not sure how we solve it. Masks will do feck all. BA2 waves seem to be peaking and starting to decline in countries that still do rigorous testing (i.e. not us!) so it might sort itself out in another few weeks anyway.
Literally pissing in the wind. The amount of people picking up covid on the bus or in the shops is completely insignificant compared to all the other ways it’s being passed around. And the sort of masks most people used to wear in shops and on buses are basically useless at stopping transmission of omicron anyway.
I’d rather have something, ‘it’s better than nothing when people are coughing and sneezing round you. It’s literally logic. But i know that you’ve had your fill of masks (you said so in another post) so I’m probably trying to discuss something you’ve had your fill off now!
and don’t start me on schools because apparently covid doesn’t pass round schools or so we used to be told repeatedly. Since the mask mandate has been dropped, covid has gone rampant through the schools. Literally every glass has had at least 1 case in them for weeks, half the teachers out too
It was quite frequent here even when masks were mandatory. Now that the mandate was lifted yesterday I am expecting to hear this on a regular basis whenever I wear a mask anywhere.
I actually stopped caring about people not wearing them a while ago but would just want to be left alone for wearing one. It’s nobody’s business but mine.
Oh you've done it now. Pogue will be round to give you a paddlin'.
a) You were never told that.
b) Covid is rife in schools when covid is rife everywhere else.
b) is why the calls to close schools longer than we did never made any sense. It’s not like the kids just disappear when schools are closed. They’re in and out of each others houses. Doing what kids do. The only way to take them out of the loop was when we had restrictions on visiting other people’s houses. But that was an extreme measure that should be an absolute last resort.
As it stands, we’ve decided to let everyone have as normal a life as possible because this latest variant is relatively benign in a highly vaccinated population. Making the most of advantage we’ve given ourselves by the fantastic vaccine take-up. Which is the correct decision but will inevitably see very high case numbers, especially in ages that do the most socialising (kids and young adults)
There you go, @Massive Spanner. Doing God’s work.
BingoOh and the one point I forgot to add is that “since the mask mandate dropped” is a red herring because we know what’s really driving this latest surge is a new much more transmissible variant, BA2. Hence we’ve seen an identical surge in most other European countries. Including those with much stricter rules around masks.
Still struggling after officially 7 days now from first symptoms.
Still struggling with dizziness. Sitting up for say 30 mins or more is a problem, so that's been a real pain.
My sore throat finally seems to have gone this morning after appearing last Tuesday morning, but chest and cough is worse.
Had all my jabs, god know's how it would be if i hadn't had any.
This one is spreading very quickly (AB.2) and my household have now got also
Still struggling with dizziness. Sitting up for say 30 mins or more is a problem, so that's been a real pain.
My sore throat finally seems to have gone this morning after appearing last Tuesday morning, but chest and cough is worse.
Had all my jabs, god know's how it would be if i hadn't had any.
This one is spreading very quickly (AB.2) and my household have now got also
At this point, I'm thinking of covid like it's chickenpox. There's no escaping it. It's everywhere. This is the new normal we have to live with.
Kids get it relatively mild - but catching it should set them up for longer term immunity.
Adults get it more severe - but they should already have sufficient protection against it. On the off chance an adult doesn't have sufficient protection, they might need to get medical treatment
Kids get it relatively mild - but catching it should set them up for longer term immunity.
Adults get it more severe - but they should already have sufficient protection against it. On the off chance an adult doesn't have sufficient protection, they might need to get medical treatment
Is any of this true or wild guesses? I’ve had it 3 times and sufficient protection seems to run out at 3 months
I think maybe sufficient protection means that you get it but don't require medical attention.
That was my sentiment too.
As life began to return to normal, it was tempting to tell myself that maybe I'd been overly cautious, stuck too rigidly to the shielding guidelines etc. But then I caught Covid and wow was I grateful for being triple jabbed.
Hope you start feeling better soon!
Yeah, chicken pox is bad analogy because catching it once means you’re incredibly unlikely to catch it again.
A better analogy would be the coronaviruses that have already been in circulation for hundreds of years. You catch them regularly but don’t get very sick.
We’re not there yet though. Probably be a variant fuelled curveball or two before the fat lady sings. If the current variant is the last one ever then we’ve nothing to worry about. It won’t be though. Unfortunately.
I hope you're wrong, but yeah we have a few more twists and turns to go.
Our media are not fit for purpose. Never was.
And currently people are catching this more often than they’d catch the common cold. This ain’t over yet
Absolutely. It's all about dwell time, which is why in hindsight the logic to shut retail, especially with air conditioning in most units) was a pretty poor call from most governments.
I agree with that and about 75% of your last post. I don’t fully agree with your point about school effects. It was pointless closing things like restaurants and cinemas for so long yet you must go to school. You ca control everything but what happens when you drop your kids off in that Petri dish.
That's just semantics though, I'm sure if you tracked the two they wouldn't be that far apart. I've had a cold three times already this year.
The restaurants/cinemas vs schools was about what we prioritise as a society. Is it more important to keep our kids in school or be able to eat out/go to the cinema? I’m biased but I think they made the right call. Which is vindicated by hindsight when you see the longterm negative consequences of school closures. Which have been obviously far worse for underprivileged kids.
Anyhoo. Me banging on about schools is about as interesting for everyone else in the thread as arguing about Swedish ski holidays, so I’d better button it!
Thanks dude.
And covid is far more serious for so many comparing the two isn't really valid.
Here in Sydney the delineation seems to be that most people with kids get covid and many (but not all) of people with no kids don't. We aren't seeing more than a handful of children dying from covid and older age groups are hugely vaccinated so it could be worse.
I've stayed out of this thread for the past 1000 pages or so. Has anything substantial happened?
2 years ago, yes. On the current strains that are circulating in a triple jab & high immunity environment, I’d say there’s more validity to that argument now more than ever.
People who aren't already very sick don't die from having a cold even though not vaccinated so they are completely different.
@Pogue Mahone
here’s a doc asking for a temporary mask mandate again to ensure medical services can cope. Sounds like Connolly are getting it bad!
here’s a doc asking for a temporary mask mandate again to ensure medical services can cope. Sounds like Connolly are getting it bad!
Note the “if”. She seems about as convinced as I am that masks will make any difference to this current surge!
From talking to friends working in hospitals the big problem isn’t covid hospitalising loads of people it’s loads of staff off sick. Which is what she’s saying too. The health service is always run on incredibly fine margins when it comes to staffing levels and general capacity at busy times of year. So it doesn’t take much for the wheels to come off. That’s a long term problem though. I don’t see how making people wear masks in Tescos will fix it.
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This Deltacron is looking grim.
This Deltacron is looking grim.