Julian Nagelsmann | Sacked and replaced by Tuchel

Silly move.

What's your verdict thus far generally? Can he grow quickly into the seat?
He'll have to learn quickly. But yeah, he will get another season and a couple of players in summer for it.
Less players though than if he had managed to progress over fecking Villareal, as that money will be missed dearly.

I love the attacking spirit but I can't help but notice that we're getting worse as the season progresses, with his attacking approach and playing style by now basically being to throw shit at the wall for 90 minutes and see what sticks. Rather annoying. He will have to adapt his 'philosophy', else he won't win anything of note. Let's see if he can adapt, and coach the adaptation.
 
He'll have to learn quickly. But yeah, he will get another season and a couple of players in summer for it.
Less players though than if he had managed to progress over fecking Villareal, as that money will be missed dearly.

I love the attacking spirit but I can't help but notice that we're getting worse as the season progresses, with his attacking approach and playing style by now basically being to throw shit at the wall for 90 minutes and see what sticks. Rather annoying. He will have to adapt his 'philosophy', else he won't win anything of note. Let's see if he can adapt, and coach the adaptation.

Two questions: What does he need in terms of recruitment and do you think the players have bought into his methods and character?
 
Subbing off Hernandez in minute 86 might be the worst sub in the history of the CL knockout stages. Nagelsmann's tactical immaturity is staggering. For all his immense qualities, the kid is also a fecking idiot.
He was lucky v us last season. Ole’s United put 7 past him and only through a shit result for us in Turkey made them go out.

I don’t think he’s actually all that.
 
It is crazy how some of the top hipster choice managers failed so badly this year, yet there is little blowback to that. Yet if the non hipster choice failed the way they did, there would be countless threads and meme on the internet. Nagelsmann loosing to Villarreal is an embarrassment even more so than Ole lost in the final as bayern had two legs to try and defeat them. Nagelsmann should be on thin ice if he doesn't improve bayern significantly next season. This wasn't even their worse defeat of the season. I recalled bayern loosing 5-0 to mochgladbach in the cup. So, I don't understand what Nagelsmann is doing over there and I can't really say much as I don't watch bayern often
 
The hipster choice fails again this season. First ETH with Benfica and now Nagelsmann with Villarreal. What is more incredible is that these hipster managers lost to teams that were inferior to them.

Poch is literally the Proto-Hipster manager. Go take your keyboard for a shit.
 
Whats the deal with hasan salihadmidzic ? My bayern friends just go on tirades about the guy.
 
He was lucky v us last season. Ole’s United put 7 past him and only through a shit result for us in Turkey made them go out.

I don’t think he’s actually all that.
The shit result in Turkey could still be redeemed if we got a result against Leipzig in the last group stage game but we didn't so putting 7 past them meant nothing in the end.
 
The team footballing aspect of Flick to Naglesmann seems a major difference. Bayern come across as very ordinary in their performances. I think Hansi Flick was for periods the best manager around. Some of the football he produced eclipsed the showings of the likes of City and Liverpool, best attacking play I've witnessed since Peps Barcelona team.

Think the club will require patience for whatever vision Naglesmann has. He is certainly a very promising manager but I think the reality is that Flick had the team performing levels above that the transition has been difficult.
 
It is crazy how some of the top hipster choice managers failed so badly this year, yet there is little blowback to that. Yet if the non hipster choice failed the way they did, there would be countless threads and meme on the internet. Nagelsmann loosing to Villarreal is an embarrassment even more so than Ole lost in the final as bayern had two legs to try and defeat them. Nagelsmann should be on thin ice if he doesn't improve bayern significantly next season. This wasn't even their worse defeat of the season. I recalled bayern loosing 5-0 to mochgladbach in the cup. So, I don't understand what Nagelsmann is doing over there and I can't really say much as I don't watch bayern often
...he wrote, in a thread where several pages of posts with criticism were added just in the last few hours.
 
He would be a disaster here given the snowflake players would ask for someone older than 34.
 
I don't get the comments about his age, meaning he'll improve regardless because he's "only 34"?

He's been in management for six years, it just means he started younger than most - there's literally nothing to suggest he's going to improve drastically.
 
He was lucky v us last season. Ole’s United put 7 past him and only through a shit result for us in Turkey made them go out.

I don’t think he’s actually all that.
Give it a rest. It's about actual managers, not clowns feigning to be one.
 
Subbing off Hernandez in minute 86 might be the worst sub in the history of the CL knockout stages. Nagelsmann's tactical immaturity is staggering. For all his immense qualities, the kid is also a fecking idiot.

I thought absolutely the same. Why such a change 4 minutes before the end, which lead to complete change of system.
However, Nagelmann said Hernandez got injured and he had to come off. He decided to bring Davies because of his speed to counter Villarreal's substitution.
If true Hernandez couldn't continue, it's hard to blame him.
 
The team footballing aspect of Flick to Naglesmann seems a major difference. Bayern come across as very ordinary in their performances. I think Hansi Flick was for periods the best manager around. Some of the football he produced eclipsed the showings of the likes of City and Liverpool, best attacking play I've witnessed since Peps Barcelona team.

Think the club will require patience for whatever vision Naglesmann has. He is certainly a very promising manager but I think the reality is that Flick had the team performing levels above that the transition has been difficult.
He's one of the best. Surprisingly, not the hipster's choice despite showing everything else and more than some of the cult hero managers have. He was hard done during his final season by some bad luck with injuries, otherwise, Bayern, under him, played some of the most complete football I've ever seen.
 
no way around it, it's a disaster how he managed to fail in each cup, to a fairly limited sides. it's not like he's managing very young and inexperienced side that is just learning stuff and will get better in about 3-4 years. all hype so far, I'm afraid.
 
The team footballing aspect of Flick to Naglesmann seems a major difference. Bayern come across as very ordinary in their performances. I think Hansi Flick was for periods the best manager around. Some of the football he produced eclipsed the showings of the likes of City and Liverpool, best attacking play I've witnessed since Peps Barcelona team.

Think the club will require patience for whatever vision Naglesmann has. He is certainly a very promising manager but I think the reality is that Flick had the team performing levels above that the transition has been difficult.

Why did flick leave? Surely it wasn't just to manage the NT? He is still relatively young.
 
Why did flick leave? Surely it wasn't just to manage the NT? He is still relatively young.

Think it was just his desire to manage Germany - crazy really, but looking at his stats at Bayern is quote crazy :

Win ratio - 83%
Goals per game - 3.0
Trophies - 7
CL win record - 100% win streak throughout.

Surely the job is his whenever he wants to get back to club football? Though his record as manager didn't seem all that great until his stint at Bayern (which was initially an interim position) at 53 years of age.
 
Why did flick leave? Surely it wasn't just to manage the NT? He is still relatively young.
He had his best time as assisstant manager of the NT (including the WC win 2014), so it makes sense for him to want that job. And he quite publicly clashed with their doF Salihamidzic.
Surely the job is his whenever he wants to get back to club football?
Very unlikely, at least as long as Salihamidzic has something to decide.
 
The hipster choice fails again this season. First ETH with Benfica and now Nagelsmann with Villarreal. What is more incredible is that these hipster managers lost to teams that were inferior to them.
Thank god Fergie never lost a CL game against weaker teams
 
The hipster choice fails again this season. First ETH with Benfica and now Nagelsmann with Villarreal. What is more incredible is that these hipster managers lost to teams that were inferior to them.
Never happened to Fergie…
 
He needs time, coaching a team like Bayern isn't like coaching Leipzig, it's almost a different job but... he really needs to shut up (Salihamidzic as well).

This whole "We Bayern, we strong, we make no prisonners" act is funny and it flies when they win or put up a great fight but boy does it look ridiculous when you get eliminated by a far inferior team. He'll carry his statement before the game for a while.
 
Whats the deal with hasan salihadmidzic ? My bayern friends just go on tirades about the guy.

His only faults are that he supposedly pushed Flick out of the club and that he really struggles to formulate coherent sentences. So who knows why people jump at the chance to blame him.


He needs time, coaching a team like Bayern isn't like coaching Leipzig, it's almost a different job but... he really needs to shut up (Salihamidzic as well).

This whole "We Bayern, we strong, we make no prisonners" act is funny and it flies when they win or put up a great fight but boy does it look ridiculous when you get eliminated by a far inferior team. He'll carry his statement before the game for a while.


That's just Bayern's default stance. The press would be hounding them for turning the club soft if they didn't talk like that. The more interesting question is why they think it's a good idea to have Brazzo represent their club to the public.
 
He needs time, coaching a team like Bayern isn't like coaching Leipzig, it's almost a different job but... he really needs to shut up
Yet another example of how working 'miracles' with a lesser budget doesn't always translate to blowing the world away on bigger funds (as we keep hearing how scary Klopp would be with a blank cheque).
 
Yet another example of how working 'miracles' with a lesser budget doesn't always translate to blowing the world away on bigger funds (as we keep hearing how scary Klopp would be with a blank cheque).

You can’t really compare the two at all though weird point to make.
 
It is crazy how some of the top hipster choice managers failed so badly this year, yet there is little blowback to that. Yet if the non hipster choice failed the way they did, there would be countless threads and meme on the internet. Nagelsmann loosing to Villarreal is an embarrassment even more so than Ole lost in the final as bayern had two legs to try and defeat them. Nagelsmann should be on thin ice if he doesn't improve bayern significantly next season. This wasn't even their worse defeat of the season. I recalled bayern loosing 5-0 to mochgladbach in the cup. So, I don't understand what Nagelsmann is doing over there and I can't really say much as I don't watch bayern often



You just flat out trolling now. Surprised it has went on this long
 
It is crazy how some of the top hipster choice managers failed so badly this year, yet there is little blowback to that. Yet if the non hipster choice failed the way they did, there would be countless threads and meme on the internet. Nagelsmann loosing to Villarreal is an embarrassment even more so than Ole lost in the final as bayern had two legs to try and defeat them. Nagelsmann should be on thin ice if he doesn't improve bayern significantly next season. This wasn't even their worse defeat of the season. I recalled bayern loosing 5-0 to mochgladbach in the cup. So, I don't understand what Nagelsmann is doing over there and I can't really say much as I don't watch bayern often
Ole and Carrick beat them this year
 
Earlier in the season we had injury and covid problems to explain away the wacky lineups and incoherent performances, but right now we have most key players available yet chaos and mediocrity prevails. Worrying state of things.
 
It is crazy how some of the top hipster choice managers failed so badly this year, yet there is little blowback to that. Yet if the non hipster choice failed the way they did, there would be countless threads and meme on the internet. Nagelsmann loosing to Villarreal is an embarrassment even more so than Ole lost in the final as bayern had two legs to try and defeat them. Nagelsmann should be on thin ice if he doesn't improve bayern significantly next season. This wasn't even their worse defeat of the season. I recalled bayern loosing 5-0 to mochgladbach in the cup. So, I don't understand what Nagelsmann is doing over there and I can't really say much as I don't watch bayern often

Does Poch pay you to go around trashing other managers on online forums? You've taken this Poch Defence League stuff to a really weird place man.
 
No surprises that the most vocal critics on here are all extremely pro-Ole, for the most part. It's hilarious that this group regularly thrash other managers, while they vehemently defended a seriously underwhelming 3-years of Ole. Classic Caf :)
 
His only faults are that he supposedly pushed Flick out of the club and that he really struggles to formulate coherent sentences. So who knows why people jump at the chance to blame him.





That's just Bayern's default stance. The press would be hounding them for turning the club soft if they didn't talk like that. The more interesting question is why they think it's a good idea to have Brazzo represent their club to the public.
Good to know, I though he was at fault for all their woes they way they go on about him.