Mauricio Amadaeus Pochettino | Chelsea sack watch

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The way people are carrying on is weird. You would think this guy booted a cat across a room. People have got what they wanted in ETH so why the continued bitterness?

You can only win the league you're in. PSG is an awkward club to manage, far too good for their own league and don't play enough difficult games on a weekly basis to prepare a side for the cut throat end of the CL. There is very little margin to surpass expectations. He certainly hasn't done that with his football but he's still won the bloody league.

The next job will be key for Poch's standing in the game.
 
CraftySoAndSo said:
If that's right then out of all the managers you've had since the takeover you could make a case for Blanc being one of your better ones. I know he didn't go as far in Champions League compared to Tuchel but from memory he played good football at PSG and had a good league record.
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Some supporters think that. I, personnally, wasn't a fan of Blanc because there was a huge lack a verticality in his gameplan. It worked really well in Ligue 1 but fell short in the CL. Also, Blanc was here at the beginning of the project, winning titles was still "new". 10 years later it's a bit different.
 
Oly Francis said:
Some supporters think that. I, personnally, wasn't a fan of Blanc because there was a huge lack a verticality in his gameplan. It worked really well in Ligue 1 but fell short in the CL. Also, Blanc was here at the beginning of the project, winning titles was still "new". 10 years later it's a bit different.
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Yeah i remember he did well in the league but always fell short in Europe. Yes it's 10 years later but the job is also different, a big requirement for the PSG job these days is being able to handle the dressing room egos which you could say are bigger than when Blanc was there.

But maybe that's where you need a reset, right now a manager like Zidane would be better for you than a manager like Ten Hag. Right now you don't really have a philosophy other than "win", nothing wrong with that as it's served clubs like Chelsea and Real very well. But you're in a league where you can afford to try and develop an identity playing style wise and utilize your very good academy. I think PSG are better served having a manager who can install and identity rather than just having someone strong enough to handle the dressing room.
 
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CraftySoAndSo said:
Yeah i remember he did well in the league but always fell short in Europe. Yes it's 10 years later but the job is also different, a big requirement for the PSG job these days is being able to handle the dressing room egos which are bigger than when Blanc was there. If Blanc had the current dressing room he'd probably get eaten alive and i think the squad he had was less talented but also had less drama.

But maybe that's where you need a reset, right now a manager like Zidane would be better for you than a manager like Ten Hag. Right now you don't really have a philosophy other than "win", nothing wrong with that as it's served clubs like Chelsea and Real very well. But you're in a league where you can afford to try and develop an identity playing style wise and utilize your very good academy. I think PSG are better served having a manager who can install and identity rather than just having someone strong enough to handle the dressing room.
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Blanc's dressing room was significantly more difficult to manage than the current one, I still don't know where this idea comes from, especially since during that time the dressing room issues were extremely public.
 
JPRouve said:
Blanc's dressing room was significantly more difficult to manage than the current one, I still don't know where this idea comes from, especially since during that time the dressing room issues were extremely public.
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Didn't know that and was probably stupid of me to assume but the current lot aren't angels either.
 
CraftySoAndSo said:
Didn't know that and was probably stupid of me to assume but the current lot aren't angels either.
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The current lot have done nothing special, they are considerably better behaved than what PSG had 7-8 years ago. The dressing room that Blanc had was actually acting up, with south american players routinely coming back late from international weeks that includes Cavani, Pastore and Lavezzi. Lavezzi and Verratti were party beasts and close to Al Khelaifi, Ibrahimovic was generally a bully, Rabiot's mom was a constant menace, Aurier insulted Blanc during a live stream, Thiago Silva was know for bypassing the coach and directly complain to Al Khelaifi.
 
crossy1686 said:
Finally got his league title, although it doesn’t mean much when you managed PSG. He really should do himself a favour and move to Italy or Spain and prove himself as the manager he thinks he is. No one is going to take him seriously for now, even if he wins the CL there’s a massive caveat with winning it with PSG.
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Not true. If he won the CL with PSG it would be a major achievement, no caveat at all.
 
JPRouve said:
The current lot have done nothing special, they are considerably better behaved than what PSG had 7-8 years ago. The dressing room that Blanc had was actually acting up, with south american players routinely coming back late from international weeks that includes Cavani, Pastore and Lavezzi. Lavezzi and Verratti were party beasts and close to Al Khelaifi, Ibrahimovic was generally a bully, Rabiot's mom was a constant menace, Aurier insulted Blanc during a live stream, Thiago Silva was know for bypassing the coach and directly complain to Al Khelaifi.
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I remember stories about the parties and nightclubs but i thought that was under Ancelotti, must of misremembered. Didn't know about the rest so i can hold my hands up on that. But i do think the dynamic at PSG needs to change and i remember you said somewhere else they had to sell youngsters who've done well elsewhere because of FFP. Because of the gap between them and other teams in Ligue 1 they can afford to bring these youngsters through and develop them and create an identity. I think that would serve them better in the long run.
 
CraftySoAndSo said:
I remember stories about the parties and nightclubs but i thought that was under Ancelotti, must of misremembered.
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As Blanc followed Ancelotti, the dressing room was largely the same and the stories similar. I don't think you misremembered.
 
CraftySoAndSo said:
I remember stories about the parties and nightclubs but i thought that was under Ancelotti, must of misremembered. Didn't know about the rest so i can hold my hands up on that. But i do think the dynamic at PSG needs to change and i remember you said somewhere else they had to sell youngsters who've done well elsewhere because of FFP. Because of the gap between them and other teams in Ligue 1 they can afford to bring these youngsters through and develop them and create an identity. I think that would serve them better in the long run.
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It was roughly the same players that Ancelotti had, the leaders were the same. Now it's also worth saying that while the dressing room had more "trouble makers", it also had four actual leaders who were extremely professional in Maxwell, Matuidi, Thiago Motta and Zoumana Camara.
 
CraftySoAndSo said:
Yeah i remember he did well in the league but always fell short in Europe. Yes it's 10 years later but the job is also different, a big requirement for the PSG job these days is being able to handle the dressing room egos which you could say are bigger than when Blanc was there.

But maybe that's where you need a reset, right now a manager like Zidane would be better for you than a manager like Ten Hag. Right now you don't really have a philosophy other than "win", nothing wrong with that as it's served clubs like Chelsea and Real very well. But you're in a league where you can afford to try and develop an identity playing style wise and utilize your very good academy. I think PSG are better served having a manager who can install and identity rather than just having someone strong enough to handle the dressing room.
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Maybe not a complete reset (it's impossible in a club like that anyway, I see some people dreaming of that for United but it won't happen) but we need to start building the team properly. No manager can craft a real sustainable identity with a front 3 of Mess/Mbappé/Neymar and players like Gueye, Paredes, Herrera etc. in the midfield. This doesn't mean that Pochettino couldn't have done better though. We actually share a lot of issued with United.

I'm afraid it's going to be hard to turn things around this summer considering there's a world cup coming and Messi still has a year on his contract. If he stays, we need to get rid of our deadweight especially in the midfield and improve this area first.
 
crossy1686 said:
Finally got his league title, although it doesn’t mean much when you managed PSG. He really should do himself a favour and move to Italy or Spain and prove himself as the manager he thinks he is. No one is going to take him seriously for now, even if he wins the CL there’s a massive caveat with winning it with PSG.
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Doubt he'll get the chance after the CL failure this year... soon this watch will be concluded?
 
I do feel for Poch, it seems he genuinely wanted the United job and was clearly the better manager than Ole. But it seems fortune favoured us in getting ETH and thankfully we got the manager on the upward trajectory.

Poch will leave PSG if they don’t fully back but where would he go? Not many big jobs available at the moment. Madrid might be one in a year’s time since despite Ancelotti winning trophies, it seems not good enough for their supporters who demand a better style of football. Newcastle United possibly in a few years when the Saudi money starts bringing in better players.
 
Given that he hasn't made an appearance in this thread since the title win, does anyone else get the impression that Amadaeus went on a mental boozing session to celebrate and he's too hungover (or imprisoned if things really got out of hand) to post here?
 
Amadaeus said:
Vindication. A victory that places Poch amongst the Parthenon of great managers. Paisley, Busby, Shankly, Ferguson, Pochettino. The Magnificent Five. The Ten Haggers here once more shown up again by the Poch Shaggers.

Salvation. The promised land, He hath leadeth them to it. The pinnacle of PSG’s existence, achieved via a brave draw at a club famous for manufacturing remote controlled eye glasses. A draw yes, but they are a team yet to be beaten this season by any of the teams in the so called superior PL, BL, LL or SA leagues.

Temptation. The bounty of offers raining down upon Him, ignored so he could complete His life’s work. A magnificent achievement, one of which was a distant dream just this time last year. Oh how He hath toppled the mighty Lille.

Placation. The egos of the dressing room, tamed by a master tactician. A Barca has-been, relishing in discovering a fountain of youth in Poch and rolling back the years to produce some of his finest goal during the season. A partying Brazilian, partying hard after winning the trophy that was missing from his collection. A wantaway Frenchman, waiting to see where Poch will end up next year before making his decision. A crowd, booing their manager’s name, so worried and so annoyed that He may one day leave them after dying from old age.

He. Has. Done. It. Rejoice, rejoice, a King is born.
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Breaking | Mauricio Pochettino will imminently be removed as PSG coach, according to Le Parisien - board wants him gone, he wants out. More follows.
 
Dec9003 said:
I don’t see much point for him to go back to Spurs, but Madrid would be really interesting.
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Conte apparently going to PSG and Poch wants to be back in the PL
 
Cassidy said:
Conte apparently going to PSG and Poch wants to be back in the PL
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I can’t imagine any of the top clubs in the PL taking him to be fair, but I’d be surprised if he could achieve more going back to Tottenham than he did last time. Seems like a comfort move over an ambitious one to me.
 
It really is CL or bust for PSG isn't it? Or is it a playing style issue? Why are they sacking him?
 
WeePat said:
It really is CL or bust for PSG isn't it? Or is it a playing style issue? Why are they sacking him?
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The playing style, PSG have been mainly underwhelming in Ligue 1. There is also the very strange situation last summer where Pochettino was allegedly negotiating an exit with Levy, it's possible that PSG didn't forget.
 
WeePat said:
It really is CL or bust for PSG isn't it? Or is it a playing style issue? Why are they sacking him?
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because its CL or bust. Winning Ligue 1 is probably not considered a huge deal for PSG's board.
 
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