Cop in America doing a bad job, again
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Yeah but think of how many traffic stops there must have been. The ratio isn't bad at all.
@Skizzo , remember this being my top 5 closeness to death despite never bring stopped? 600 people, Sheesh.
but those people WERE stopped. Your fear falls into the millions of people driving who didn’t get pulled over. Then you’d be in a huge group of people who get pulled over and nothing happens to.
but yes I get what you’re saying.
Yeah but think of how many traffic stops there must have been. The ratio isn't bad at all.
I clicked on two of the links in the Twitter thread and one had a passenger shot when he was pulling a gun out of his waistband, and another had someone with PCP in their system flee from a traffic stop, including driving wrong way, and then wrestle with an officer, bite him, and get control of his taser.
So it’s not that 600 traffic stops resulted in someone randomly being shot after the officer walked up to the car and decided to kill someone instead of giving a ticket.
Edit: Since it probably needs saying to avoid assumptions to the contrary, but no I don’t think anyone driving along minding their own business deserves to be shot and killed. Whenever numbers are used in terms of police shootings, killings etc, uses of force etc, it just groups everything into one, ignoring justified uses of force etc.
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If true then this is a gross misuse of power by the Sheriff. If what the reporter claimed in her story is true he needs to be in jail.
Yeah but think of how many traffic stops there must have been. The ratio isn't bad at all.
Better ratio than that one at least.
disgusting and scary stat, but not surprising. It seems our countries level of civility and empathy is crumbling across all sectors. Hope You stay safe!
Its certainly not limited to interactions with law enforcement, generally everything seems to be trending downwards across the country unfortunately. Appreciate that though! Hopefully the pendulum swings back up again at some point soon.
This just choked me up a bit…
Christ
As an aside, I worked in the pink building in the background.
Forgot about this cnut…
Is that the Don CeSar?
I looked it up! My other guess was going to be the Scientology church but that's not on/that near a big beach and you don't strike me as the Scientology type.
Not exactly cops but the criminal justice system
Geez man, such a pointless death.
saw this too. honestly even though the cops did most of the damage, the initial nurses/docs are as much to blame here.
Another straight up execution…
Sickening shite again. So terrible.
Having been a police officer myself I wonder what kind of training these officers get, if any? I am not defending them but it's mind-blowing to me that they advanced like they did.
If they suspect him of being armed why do they move towards him in the open, leaving themselves completely exposed? They shouldn't even put themselves in a position where they feel so threatened that they have to shoot.
They want to kill. That's why.
So glad to see it got handled properly after that dispicable behavior. Shocking that he was fired elsewhere for similar behavior and still got a job again, wonder what happened that they still employed him despite that.
Wouldn’t a taser worked in this situation?
Wonder if that initial hand movement to the chest was to try to disable the body cam?
Nice to hear clear instructions from the get go...from the victims point of view obviously in a bit of a panic when faced with officers with guns and their usual demand of "let me.see your hands" he tried putting his hands up (I'm actually assuming the officers asked to see his hands too) - but as soon as he raised his hands they shot him? Then the same hing 30 seconds later? You can't ask to see someone's hands (asking in a very muffled way too) and then shoot them as soon as they raise their hands.
Another case of someone with the gun using force first instead of their brains - there are probably loads of different ways to have resolved this situation without killing the old woman.
Firstly they were warned by her family be careful with her) - why couldn't the officer ask her family to tell her to let go of the knives? Maybe the old lady couldn't speak english, or that faced with a gun a human looses all sense of calm and is rendered incapable of following simple instructions.
The training these "officers" go through must be absolutely shite, to go into situations with guns held high, no clear instructions etc will obviously create a very tense. and difficult situation, it's literally their job to contain and control those situations.
In most of these videos you see the officers panicking and absolutely shiting themselves in these instances, which means there's only a few ways these situations can go, sadly when it's dark and they throwing out different commands to their suspects/victims they're going to take any confusion as hostility and because they're so amped up and panicked, they shoot.
I was pulled over by police a few years ago (UK) just bought a car and it flagged up with no insurance, it was midnight in November (picked my girlfriend up from work - waitress, not a stripper) and there were 2 police cars and 2 riot vans and I'm a calm individual and never raise my voice (I'm a big dude, and get told I'm intimidating as it is) - anyway, I asked if I could start my car to keep my girlfriend warm, not ten seconds pass where another officer comes flying up to my window banging on my car shouting at me to turn my car off - the first officer literally didn't say a word, can't imagine what would have happened if they were armed.
Fecking hell, another senseless preventable death. I can't imagine what needs to happen for this to stop happening, it's crazy.