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horsechoker said:
Posting this to dispel the myth that some hold (not on here primarily) that Scotland will join the EU in a matter of a few years

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...en-ukraines-hopes-of-fast-track-eu-membership
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Scotland would be considerably quicker than Ukraine though, as Scotland basically still follow the same rules and standards as the EU countries to this point.

Of course if and when Westminster introduce their Brexit bill and the standards are changed to UKCA etc then the process would take a lot longer. The aim of the Tory party is to trash everything so it would be too difficult to rejoin; plus they have a willing accomplice with the opposition.
 
Quote from a Dutch late night comedy show concerning the labor market:

"Because of Brexit the UK are unable to get cheap workers from the EU into the country. They are dealing with a shortage of bus drivers, a shortage of seasonal workers, the only actual surplus they have now are Chelsea players."
 
DutchSerb said:
Quote from a Dutch late night comedy show concerning the labor market:

"Because of Brexit the UK are unable to get cheap workers from the EU into the country. They are dealing with a shortage of bus drivers, a shortage of seasonal workers, the only actual surplus they have now are Chelsea players."
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:lol:
 
DutchSerb said:
Quote from a Dutch late night comedy show concerning the labor market:

"Because of Brexit the UK are unable to get cheap workers from the EU into the country. They are dealing with a shortage of bus drivers, a shortage of seasonal workers, the only actual surplus they have now are Chelsea players."
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And some think the Dutch don't have a sense of humour
 
DutchSerb said:
Quote from a Dutch late night comedy show concerning the labor market:

"Because of Brexit the UK are unable to get cheap workers from the EU into the country. They are dealing with a shortage of bus drivers, a shortage of seasonal workers, the only actual surplus they have now are Chelsea players."
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:) Question is which project looks more likely to succeed. Brexit or new Chelsea. Looking like two badly thought through projects.
 
Thanks for the article link. Obviously a trade war with the EU is a terrible turn of events, but reading that "the UK is about to lower standards in areas such as environmental protection and workers’ rights " makes for miserable reading.

MP's in the Conservative Party really don't understand the gravity model of trade. Going to trade war with your neighbors is a Putinesque kind of mistake.
 
RoyH1 said:
Thanks for the article link. Obviously a trade war with the EU is a terrible turn of events, but reading that "the UK is about to lower standards in areas such as environmental protection and workers’ rights " makes for miserable reading.

MP's in the Conservative Party really don't understand the gravity model of trade. Going to trade war with your neighbors is a Putinesque kind of mistake.
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Despite their rhetoric, a lot of the current Tory party would love to live in a Russian style Oligarchy. Probably why they accept so much money from the Russian Oligarchs.
 
Bert_ said:
Despite their rhetoric, a lot of the current Tory party would love to live in a Russian style Oligarchy. Probably why they accept so much money from the Russian Oligarchs.
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The biggest joke about the pro-Brexit vote was that it largely comprised people dissatisfied with modern Britain (whether through genuine suffering from the effects of the Thatcherite reforms or simple nostalgia for a simpler, perhaps imaginary community-based past) while the people pushing it were ultra slash and burn liberalists who wanted to destroy any remnants of the post-war consensus and the protections afforded by EU legislation.
 
FireballXL5 said:
fecking idiots, the lot of them.

Revealed: secret cross-party summit held to confront failings of Brexit

Michael Gove and David Lammy join Ditchley Park talks amid admission that ‘UK has not found its way outside the EU

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ty-summit-held-to-confront-failings-of-brexit
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Both the Tories and Labour are completely clueless about Brexit. They still don't understand why Brexit is such a bad decision but they're both trying to find a way to bash their heads against a brick wall. It can't possibly in any shape or form be successful.
 
Why even bother with questions any more? It doesn't matter if it's in Parliament or the media, if you can just say absolutely whatever you want after a question then why pretend? Let's just say unconnected shit all the time, have a laugh and move on. I also think in today's politics it's actually far easier to do this than just a couple of decades back. I may be misremembering, but not so long ago you had to at least minimally connect the answer to the question somewhat logically, even if the answer was mostly waffle anyway. Even that's not necessary any more. Absolutely any question can be answered with an unconnected sound bite, and nobody bats an eyelid.
 
Embrace a benefit if you can find one.

How many different ways can the UK lose the TCA with the EU to ensure No Deal finally becomes a reality and trashes the economy even more?

1. Not implementing the NI Protocol properly
2. Brexit Bill or Leaving the ECHR so that human rights issues cancel the agreement.
3. Freeports - unfair advantages for companies producing in freeports
4. Introducing the UKCA - standards too low for goods to be sold in the EU

I'm sure there's a fifth but can't remember.
 
It's true that Heseltine made these two clowns look like the idiots they are and although it's not his job to hold them to account - it should be the British journalists.

However, it still didn't go far enough. How are the 'Remoaners' holding Brexit back. What is going to make Brexit work? Every day that goes past the worse it gets are that will accelerate over the coming years until at some point the inevitable will happen.

Idiot Brexiters have had it so easy for seven years. Nobody has a backbone.
 
Paul the Wolf said:
It's true that Heseltine made these two clowns look like the idiots they are and although it's not his job to hold them to account - it should be the British journalists.

However, it still didn't go far enough. How are the 'Remoaners' holding Brexit back. What is going to make Brexit work? Every day that goes past the worse it gets are that will accelerrate over the coming years until at some point the inevitable will happen.

Idiot Brexiters have had it so easy for seven years. Nobody has a backbone.
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It's fifth column nonsense.
 
Paul the Wolf said:
It's true that Heseltine made these two clowns look like the idiots they are and although it's not his job to hold them to account - it should be the British journalists.

However, it still didn't go far enough. How are the 'Remoaners' holding Brexit back. What is going to make Brexit work? Every day that goes past the worse it gets are that will accelerate over the coming years until at some point the inevitable will happen.

Idiot Brexiters have had it so easy for seven years. Nobody has a backbone.
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What do you want to see happen?
 
JPRouve said:
What do you want to see happen?
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First of all, the country to have some kind of opposition to the madness. It's a long road back but the longer it takes before someone actually calls out Brexit for what it is, the process of repairing the damage, which has not yet reached it's worse , will not start. The current Tories are the worst government in my lifetime but unfortunately the opposition party is run by a cowardly fool who says he's going to make an impossibility work and is too scared to oppose.
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-64450882

So there we have it. The highly respected Bloomberg analysis now shows that Brexit is costing the UK an estimated £100 million a year and the economy is 4% as a result.

And these are just the headlines.
The above report is full of many other analysis. Like for example the number of new trade deals.... remember Liam Fox telling us that signing new trade deals with the rest of the world was going to be the EASIEST THING POSSIBLE. They would be falling over themselves to sign up with us.
And he was almost right. There has been 71 new trade deals. Wonderful.... Wrong. The vast majority of those are just mirroring existing ones. The only ones of any note are Australia and New Zealand. But many farmers for example believe that these will actually have a negative effect.

So for those who were responsible for Brexit.... Well Done.
 
Buster15 said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-64450882

So there we have it. The highly respected Bloomberg analysis now shows that Brexit is costing the UK an estimated £100 million a year and the economy is 4% as a result.

And these are just the headlines.
The above report is full of many other analysis. Like for example the number of new trade deals.... remember Liam Fox telling us that signing new trade deals with the rest of the world was going to be the EASIEST THING POSSIBLE. They would be falling over themselves to sign up with us.
And he was almost right. There has been 71 new trade deals. Wonderful.... Wrong. The vast majority of those are just mirroring existing ones. The only ones of any note are Australia and New Zealand. But many farmers for example believe that these will actually have a negative effect.

So for those who were responsible for Brexit.... Well Done.
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Billion.
 
TheGame said:
Brilliant, he just calls out their lies and they don't like it.





Words cannot explain how much I despise these two especially Oakshott.
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This is unfortunately all that’s ever going to come out of these people. Its always going to be someone else’s fault. That will be the ‘remoaners’, the EU, or increasingly, as with many ‘revolutions’, it eats itself up and even its original proponents end up being labelled not pure enough.

You can only continue to challenge their nonsense and, regardless of whether or not the NI protocol deal is hashed out, this will continue to rumble on and people will eventually ask more and more questions.
 
Just like in AA, step 1 is admission of the problem. The UK won't be able to start overcoming the consequences of Brexit if it can't properly discuss them in public and in the mainstream media. And of course, this is just the beginning of the struggle for recovery.
 
Krakenzero said:
Just like in AA, step 1 is admission of the problem. The UK won't be able to start overcoming the consequences of Brexit if it can't properly discuss them in public and in the mainstream media. And of course, this is just the beginning of the struggle for recovery.
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Great post.
Similar to eating disorders stages.
- Pre Contemplation is where the person is not or does not even want to think about it. Same for UK Brexit.
- Contemplation is where they have moved into actually thinking that they have a problem. Something the government and Labour are trying to pretend is not necessary.
 
It's a weird space now in recovery. It will be ~20 years before EU would considers us back, 20 years for us to be ready/worthy and the same period to recover the damage we can whether we rejoin or not.
 
redshaw said:
It's a weird space now in recovery. It will be ~20 years before EU would considers us back, 20 years for us to be ready/worthy and the same period to recover the damage we can whether we rejoin or not.
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Are you kidding?
It took 40 years to get what was thought to be a 'sure fire remain result' referendum from our Government. Cannot see any UK government offering another EU referendum (any referendum for that matter) in the foreseeable future! Also don't forget there was as much a 'sigh of relief' in parts of the EU that the 'awkward Brits' had gone, as there was in the Brexit speaking half of our population.
If we don't make a go of Brexit then EU won't want us back as an 'economic basket' case, why would they, they have learned their lesson on that score?
If we are successful we won't want to go back, especially if the EU is riven by doubts at events unfolding (or might have unfolded) in Eastern Europe and/or mass migration issues have trebled?
We are on our own now and will have to live with the outcomes.
 
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