Pile on the distraction, we'll lap it up like good little feck wits.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
What isn’t?
him whatsapping about a new variant deployment to frighten the pants off the public! How?
If he wrote stuff like that in his messages then he goes down as the thickest politician in history if he then goes and hands his phone to a journalist NDA or not.
Easy to forge screenshots for some added juice from the story
I don’t believe it, she’d have been found alongside s road with a hole in her head
It’s bad enough that she’s leaked them, if they’ve been tampered with as well then surely that would have huge legal implications.
I don’t doubt that they talk like that behind the scenes, and the messages taken out of context probably look worse than they are. The government’s messaging throughout the lock downs was done to have better compliance, otherwise they would have been pointless to implement the lock downs.
even so - that little snippet goes beyond what I would take at face value.
But all in all its a shit show and the UK government again looks so so bad, beyond any doubt.
His political career should be kaput!
or never found at all
This isn't dog-whistling. It's just literally far fight policy being enacted.
True
I was gonna say, it’s more of a bullhorn than a dog whistle.
This. Most have forgotten about the Brexit news from the start of the week already.
Nothing to see here.
Agreed.
Johnson will be fortunate to still be an MP once that committee is through with him. His goose is cooked.
So Rushi and Braverman, exactly who does the UK have return agreements with?
France, Belgium, Holland etc etc.
Answer. No one.
So how is this actually going to work in practice?
Rayner layin the smack down here:
You mean the tweets? Just the usual Tory sleaze and corruption.
Yeah sorry, when I asked no tweets were showing on the site. Musk must have unplugged something again.
This is like RAWK, when someone (Jackie Doyle Price) speaks sense, they get hounded upon. There needs to be a time and a place where people like Dorries are put in their place.
Yeah, it's a load of bollocks, but sounds like they're trying to resurrect the Rwanda arrangement. The below just feels like they're laying a trap that Labour will struggle to avoid, given the masses are lapping up this policy.
Suella Braverman vows to 'push boundaries of international law' to stop migrants
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politic...-vows-push-boundaries-international-law-stop/
Just an absolute tosser Sadiq Khan isn’t he.
Seems to forget the scaremongering done when the smoking ban was being debated about how it would wipe out pubs and restaurants.
Not entirely sure how this makes him look like a tosser.
It kinda has to be honest. There’s very few pubs left. Plenty of restaurants that serve alcohol in buildings pubs used to be though.
I don't think that's due to smoking though. More due to cost of living and supermarket alcohol being much cheaper than that in pubs. I'd say the Internet and such probably has had an affect too as people have access to a lot more entertainment at home compared to 20 years ago so probably contributes to more staying at home.
20 years ago I'd have maybe had to meet friends in a pub for a catch up. Nowadays we can play computer games online for example.
The culture wars have begun. Nothing like immigration to get the great British public riled and vote Tory. Problem is a lot of people are thick to fall for it and will vote for them.
The gullible masses may be lapping it up until they are told the reality.
Most of those who have given it some thought realise that as it stands it is totally unworkable without reciprocal arrangements which currently don't exist.
Tories have already decided to run on this issue.
The ULEZ expansion will feck over literally millions of Londoners who can't afford to drive their existing cars and can't afford to buy a new one.
Then, like with the existing ULEZ, councils in places like Manchester will see the money it generates and think 'that's a good idea', so millions get fecked over in those places too.
You can’t say ‘literally millions’ in any good faith.
I don’t think it’s the most elegant solution and nothing like perfect. But the Scrappage Grant is huge, the public transport in the City is incredible, very few cars affected are worth more than the grant payment, and in instances that they are, those people have money and choice. You can get a great ULEZ compliant car for £2000. Easily. People have had forever to get ahead of this.
I’d have liked to have seen a tiered Grant system that saw early switchers given more. Also a year on year creep would have been better, albeit impossibly expensive. Different structures for commercial vehicles. A complete protection for vehicles assisting disabled people.
Beyond all that, I’d have been creative and given two or three days grace for a year or three to allow for shopping trips or chemist runs or all manner of things. Slower and kinder on all fronts, basically.
But The City does need to obliterate so many needless car journeys. The expanded zone is essential to make people rethink their travel choices and make wholesale changes. It’s not revenue generation. It’s not a tax. It’s punishment, and it’s a good step forward. We need more of it.
An estimated 1.5 million in and around London will be affected by it.
Of course it's a tax. The very definition of a stealth tax really. Marketed as something else but unavoidable for the people impacted by it and designed to fill empty coffers.
Surely the best way to tackle emissions is to build cars which actually last and are sustainable.
A wealthy person on their third tesla in 5 years is making a much greater carbon footprint than the man driving the same car for 20 years.
But that's capitalism for you where the motive for everything is profit. Why build cars which last 20 years when you can make more money making the consumer change car every 5-10. And long behold we get a convoy of cars with a lower carbon footprint when running but then wheen you take manufacturing and transport of said cars into account, the carbon footprint from that is much greater than that of the man using the same car for a couple of decades.
A wealthy person on their third tesla in 5 years is making a much greater carbon footprint than the man driving the same car for 20 years.
But that's capitalism for you where the motive for everything is profit. Why build cars which last 20 years when you can make more money making the consumer change car every 5-10. And long behold we get a convoy of cars with a lower carbon footprint when running but then wheen you take manufacturing and transport of said cars into account, the carbon footprint from that is much greater than that of the man using the same car for a couple of decades.