The Sun clearly trying to rattle us with that headline tomorrow,just hope no one reliable reports something similar later today
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The Glazers surely can't go and stop the sale now and piss off a lot of people (not fans but mean others who would have bought the club). Also makes them look like unreliable business people if they keep pulling this shit
Yeah after they basically said feck you to giving Erik money for Gakpo and loan fee for Felix,don't know the truth about why we didn't push harder for Nunez so won't include him
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I didn’t write the article or the headline, I’m merely reacting to it. This is literally what was said, not sure how you think it’s misinformation ?
So why ‘include’ the debt amount if not to clear it?
Do you think any owner would come in and want to takeover the club with debt around its neck? How do you suppose that would play out with the fans?
He will present the footballing operations to the bidders.
So you've got Mike Keegan (who has been at the forefront of all this takeover stuff) saying that the second stage meetings get underway from today, but Martin Lipton wants to try stir things up in a typical Sun way
The debt is "included" to calculate the final price of the sale.
You have been corrected on this by other posters and yet you still go on and claim that SJR would clear our debt when SJR's team did not say anything about this in their press release.
What's your agenda?
You three need to get a room. Too much sexual tension between you all.
What they mean is, the offer they're giving to Glazers include the debt. Not saying it'll be cleared.
So, if you own a car worth £10k but you owe £3k on it. I will give you £7k and take on the remaining £3k you owe, off of you.
So, essentially, I am paying £10k for the car. Whether I choose to pay off the £3k straight away or not, is up to me. Doesn't mean I'll clear it off.
He hopes
Teh Hag clearly approved Antony, these incompetent people you talk about gave the manager extra money because he had worked with him.
Also... love how you have ignored the questions about Lisandro... can you provide a source that says he could have been cheaper earlier in the summer, or you making it up?
You’re only jealous
Happy first meetings day, everyone! Let's hope it picks up from here
Another usually reliable journalist pushing the minority investment line without any explanation, getting really sick of that now. Why would they want to hang on when their ultimate ambition is to make as much money out of United as possible?
If they hang on, somewhere down the line they'll need to put their own money (or money they're entitled to) into the club. Which they never have done and never will do because that isn't how they run the club because they don't have emotional attachment to the club.
Another usually reliable journalist pushing the minority investment line without any explanation, getting really sick of that now. Why would they want to hang on when their ultimate ambition is to make as much money out of United as possible?
If they hang on, somewhere down the line they'll need to put their own money (or money they're entitled to) into the club. Which they never have done and never will do because that isn't how they run the club because they don't have emotional attachment to the club.
Stone is just citing the general fear about the Glazers without anything of substance behind it. We all know they didn’t want to sell but the siblings are basically forcing them two, that doesn’t mean anything since they have put the club up for sale since then.
The fact they based this off of some mock sale to gauge a price to buy everyone else out only for that narrative to fall away yet still retain the fear of the Glazers staying angle is ridiculous
I don't think they do want to stay, I think it's just a tactic to drive up the sale price. You're not exactly going to get the best deal if you appear desperate to leave.
Most journos are stealing a living with guesswork when it comes to transfers, but with this it’s a whole new level. They haven’t a clue and are tweeting the same speculative crap over and over.
That's what common sense would suggest.
Which makes it baffling why clearly very intelligent journalists keeping running with it and seem convinced by it. But never seem to really think about how realistic it is and what them staying would entail. Would love to ask one how they believe the Glazer's would make more money by remaining at United now as opposed to selling up for anything over £5bn
And people in here are lapping it up as long as fits what outcome they want from this saga.
Ben Jacobs last night on UnitedPeoplesTV said that any journalist quoting figures etc are simply just guessing. Quite an interesting listen/watch
Please read there are many articles saying that Arsenal wanted him as a left back not a centre back and offered about €40-42m and Ajax themselves were surprised with the United bid of €50m that was £46m for Martinez. I’ve sent just one link to this, I’m not making anything up about the complete incompetence of our board to get transfers done or do you disagree on that in which case I have to ask the question are you really a united fan ?
https://talksport.com/football/1172...ester-united-arsenal-transfer-fee-height/amp/
United fans now argue about semantics, the reality is the glaziers have caused this, it’s a well known fact in the last 10 years since we. Lost SAF and David Gill we are widely recognised as ‘worst in class’ at transfers and regularly take too long and pay far too much to get a transfer done, normally recruiting football mercenaries like ; A Di Maria, R Falcao, H Mkytaryan, A Sanches, P Pogba, E Cavani, Ronaldo second signing, Memphis Depay, A Martial, the list is endless. I mean we even paid £10m more than we could have paid for Feillani when he had a reduced fee built into his contract by a specific date providing we moved quicker.
like I said worst in class!
How does it seem plausible that on one hand we are asking the bidders from around the world to come and meet us and look at our financial position and make an informed decision when you offer to buy the club.
On the other hand Glazers are still thinking to retain some portion of the club.
it may be possible for them to retain some portion of the shares they own, but it would not give them anything, assuming they still own 15 percent of the shares for prestige of still being a big shareholder of manutd, what would that achieve because the amount that is currently being offered for that 15 percent is 100 times the value of dividends they will receive on that.
Plus moving on to stage two meant they did the due diligence of offers and found two or three offers closer to their valuation.
What is the purpose of moving to stage two if you don’t intend to sell club or still unsure of selling club or Some articles posted said the offer is too low. They are smart enough businessmen to know it was only a preliminary offer and real bid will be received after reviewing overall financials, hence to moving to stage two.
Lastly their reputation will also be damaged after getting people for discussions and everybody from higher ups will probably provide their presentations to explain their value to the club because in terms of mergers and takeovers, the staff which is not up to the standard is replaced by the oncoming management and put their own people in place. Doing all that and then saying we are sorry we don’t intend to sell the club. This does not make sense at all.
On the other hand Glazers are still thinking to retain some portion of the club.
it may be possible for them to retain some portion of the shares they own, but it would not give them anything, assuming they still own 15 percent of the shares for prestige of still being a big shareholder of manutd, what would that achieve because the amount that is currently being offered for that 15 percent is 100 times the value of dividends they will receive on that.
Plus moving on to stage two meant they did the due diligence of offers and found two or three offers closer to their valuation.
What is the purpose of moving to stage two if you don’t intend to sell club or still unsure of selling club or Some articles posted said the offer is too low. They are smart enough businessmen to know it was only a preliminary offer and real bid will be received after reviewing overall financials, hence to moving to stage two.
Lastly their reputation will also be damaged after getting people for discussions and everybody from higher ups will probably provide their presentations to explain their value to the club because in terms of mergers and takeovers, the staff which is not up to the standard is replaced by the oncoming management and put their own people in place. Doing all that and then saying we are sorry we don’t intend to sell the club. This does not make sense at all.
If the Glazers are that attached, they can just buy a season ticket
When you want to understand something, why not try to search and find information about it?
This tweet thread is from a user who is also active on the RedCafe and has written about this.
Don't pretend to know what you are talking about when you are too lazy to even try finding information.
Using strong words like "spread misinformation" may make you seem knowledgeable and authoritative, but don't make you such.
Fecked.
I will start a gofundme for six gargoyles we can attract onto the roof of OT. They will be immortalised for sure.
I’m not sure this is the slam dunk you make it out to be. Even at the end they’re talking about adding debt to the club for stadium etc.
Do you think the board and shareholders at INEOS will absorb the Manchester United debt and expect no monetary return from doing so?
Also this
They don't seem like they give crap what people think of them. I guess in business terms if they aren't been offered the amount they want it would be understandable to other businesses that they don't sell up.
Frustrating for us fans, however, but what's new there?
While I hate defending the Glazers, we did spend over 200 million this summer, we aren't a bottomless pit of money.
I’m glad 2 other posters before me have pointed out the flaws in your argument.
As I said before, at no point did SJR’s team mention anything about wiping off United’s current debt, thus please do not spread misinformation about them doing so.
There is no shareholders or board it's literally 3 mates, with SJR having the majority say.
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