They all misread the tweet before realising.
Club Sale | It’s done!
- Thread starter JB08
- Start date
-
In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
- Status
They all misread the tweet before realising.
I really did enjoy that myself. I was really excited and hoping it’d work out.
I wouldn't be alone if that were the case it seems.
Yeah loads of Jassim fans think its a state bid, where have I said they dont?
No I'm just highlighting the double standards from some.
I'm not talking about the British press though as you know.
Supporting the club I love.
Are you able to do that without shitting on people's views and beliefs?
Yep I've thought the same since this process began. But they'll want to be seen to have negotiated hard to keep the price down.
I've noticed no reply from Wumminator to this, the same as the last few times I've posted, because it doesn't fit his "if you have morals you're against Qatar"
On that particular topic consistency isn't something that I expect. If you think that one of the description is silly then fair enough.
I think it's a very valid point. Creating stronger bonds and not isolating these countries and their beliefs/cultures is certainly not going to do any harm. The opposite in fact IMO.
They’re killing seven people including a child for a sit in protest.
Fair enough. It's just that there are lots of smoke and mirrors in the whole saga!
The fact that the exposure to this is increased is a good thing though no? If we just keep these countries shut away from the rest of the world what chance do we have of any sort of progress?
It warms my heart to know you follow my posting activity so closely Robbie.
Seriously though you're saying I'm seeing what I want to see, how so?
I'm making an observation, that being that a lot of pro Qatar posters are spending a lot of time putting every negative spin they can think of on the Ineos bid but not putting the same effort into the Jassim bid.
Are you saying that isn't happening?
Last edited:
From Pro Qatar posters though?
I think it's important to them to seem like business people rather that oil rich playboys who can be ripped off by real capitalists. Whether that's enough to make them walk I doubt.
I have always thought Qatar will win this and I still do.
No - I don’t see that as any kind of good thing. Obviously.
And that's awful. Do you think making these countries more insular culturally will improve things in the long run or make them worse? Like women's rights aren't perfect there but closer cultural ties with the west have started to move things in the right direction. Is your discomfort more important than things (slowly) getting better in these countries?
Please explain how you have come to this conclusion?
Well I don't think there's been any reason to criticise the Qatar bid, they've said they'll clear the debt, invest in the stadium, infrastructure and the team. Any reservations for Qatar are going to be based on non football reasons, obviously
I don’t want to work closer with murderers in case working with me ( a non murderer) makes them murder less at some ill defined point in the future.
So what is your solution then?
I think the paragon of virtue bit is in your imagination. People have presumed soneone likes Ineos because they have issues with State ownership? And that's not the case.
We don’t work with murderers and homophobes.
Obviously that we totally shut them off from the west culturally until they share our values (ignoring that 60 years ago in the west America had segregation and Britain had homosexuality outlawed), apart from when we're buying their oil snd gas and selling them weapons. That always improves things in oppressive regimes right, making them more insular?
Even if it improves things for people living in those countries over time?
Not all people from Saudi are murderers or homophobes.
How did Britain and America get better if they didn’t have a guiding light to teach them?
What if shunning them and saying they can’t buy our sports team till they change their archaic laws changes things faster! Let’s try that.
And enough Britains and Europeans are proper homophobes. What a stupid fecking discussion again. Braindead.
I wouldnt bother, they don't understand that morals isn't from a singular lense, and they're continuing to argue in a multiple lense paradox "im right".
You don’t understand tenses.
Well I'd say prolonged periods of multiculturalism likely helped, people with black or gay friends or neighbours become more tolerant over time. In the same way exposure to more tolerant cultures will likely help things there. Maybe things can improve themselves but it would probably take longer than having cultural ties with the west, like I said in the last 5 years women have been granted a lot more rights in Saudi Arabia. Would you trade that for banning the Saudis from investing in western culture because it makes you uncomfortable?
Let’s keep them out the club ownership race as well please.
I'm just going to leave the discussion here but the stance you are taking is bizarre and extremely counterproductive IMO.
The more people that are aware of and condemn these sorts of actions surely make the perpetrators less likely to repeat such behavior.
Different cultures mixing can only be a good thing.
Well all evidence suggests it won't, the last 5 years where Saudi Arabia have become closer to the west culturally has resulted in an advancement of women's rights. Making cultures more insular isn't likely to work
Oh my sweet Lord. What on earth is going on here tonight.
Let’s get Abromovic back so Russia can learn more from the West.
You are the best in the game @Wumminator 
- Status