Yep, and that's the thing - He'll never step away voluntarily, and he'll never be ousted by his party. So even if he loses, he'll try again, shamelessly.
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Yep, and that's the thing - He'll never step away voluntarily, and he'll never be ousted by his party. So even if he loses, he'll try again, shamelessly.
This came out a few hours ago.
Between this and the Al Jazeera investigation from yesterday, I think it is fair to say that the people who were scolding everyone for jumping to conclusions too quickly also jumped to conclusions too quickly and acted like this was a settled matter.
After all the mass protests we have seen in front of Western and Israeli embassies/consulates, I have the following question: why has the same not been dished against Egyptian equivalents worldwide? As far as I look at the current situation with the very slow delivery of humanitarian aid into Gaza, Egypt are on another level of being utter cnuts here.
1. There's an march outside the Egyptian embassy tmrw, by the headbangers from HT.
2. It's israel that bombed the crossing several times and have threatened do destroy anything come through there without their consent.
3. The ruler is a despot supported by the west.
It's true that there's a massive looming issue that lies entirely with Palestinians in possibly resolving this conflict to some sort of actual modus vivendi : Right to return will never be fulfilled, even if Israel concedes huge rollbacks of territory or in a one state solution. Israel is an unofficial nuclear power, that state is never being thrown into the sea even in the wildest fantasies of Islamists and hardliners.
I understand it is really hard for whoever is negotiating for Palestine to accept a compromise on that, both because it would maybe doom their domestic political capital that allow them to negotiate in the first place, and it might be the only card in the deck they have. Plus Israel is enacting policies that are obviously provocative (settlements to name one). Not to mention the emotional scarring to officially letting go of that for many Palestinian families.
All the steps to possibly get there are probably contingent on Israel however.
I think a couple people were confused at the motive of the Hamas attack but for as horrible as it sounds, I think there's obvious "rational" ends to carry a spectacular raid into Israel. It is a strong message that despite material & military superiority, conscription, the border fence and Iron Dome (that Israeli governments made such a big deal of) and the tight grip they keep, Israeli authorities cannot stop thousands of their citizens being killed if Hamas really wishes so. The only way to sap the will of Israeli citizens of keeping current policies on track is to convince them that all the coercive military pressure on Palestine is an exercice in futility and that the solution is probably to keep rattling the cage.
Also pushed back the whole thing to worldwide headlines.
That's not to condone Hamas and all the crimes they are alleged to have committed, but it does make some sense (beyond the extremist ideology). It's either that or slowly losing in darkness while Israel keeps chirping away.
I understand it is really hard for whoever is negotiating for Palestine to accept a compromise on that, both because it would maybe doom their domestic political capital that allow them to negotiate in the first place, and it might be the only card in the deck they have. Plus Israel is enacting policies that are obviously provocative (settlements to name one). Not to mention the emotional scarring to officially letting go of that for many Palestinian families.
All the steps to possibly get there are probably contingent on Israel however.
I think a couple people were confused at the motive of the Hamas attack but for as horrible as it sounds, I think there's obvious "rational" ends to carry a spectacular raid into Israel. It is a strong message that despite material & military superiority, conscription, the border fence and Iron Dome (that Israeli governments made such a big deal of) and the tight grip they keep, Israeli authorities cannot stop thousands of their citizens being killed if Hamas really wishes so. The only way to sap the will of Israeli citizens of keeping current policies on track is to convince them that all the coercive military pressure on Palestine is an exercice in futility and that the solution is probably to keep rattling the cage.
Also pushed back the whole thing to worldwide headlines.
That's not to condone Hamas and all the crimes they are alleged to have committed, but it does make some sense (beyond the extremist ideology). It's either that or slowly losing in darkness while Israel keeps chirping away.
It's not Egyptians mate, it's just Sisi and the military.
I feel sorry for the Israeli people for having this type of man in charge. The 4 years of Trump felt for me as an eternity, and so I can’t imagine 15 years (or more, given his time as PM in the 1990’s). But, then, many want him in power, time and again!
By the way, I just saw the pictures of the two released US citizens. They look overall good, but I can’t imagine how tough these two weeks must have been. I pray for more hostages to be released and for no suffering in Gaza.
I haven't kept up with domestic politics in Israel but didn't they throw out Bibi multiple times over the last few years but he keeps getting the gig because no other coalition is working to make a majority in Parliament ? Despite his horrible policies plus multitude of corruption cases ongoing.
@Amir can correct me, but here’s my reading: Bibi’s floor of support is very high, and so he’s always in the game. He can lose once, but he has enough support to come back and win again.
Also, he was out of power only 1.5 years since 2009, and so he mostly found a way to form a government since then.
People are right to scold people who basically just confirmed what they want to believe, on both sides of the biased opinions.
I think we're going to struggle to understand what happened for a while, as both sides need their side to be true.
I'm concerned with this source using "IOF", doesn't particularly paint a very good picture of balance.
Of the two accounts linked in that tweet, one doesn't seem to have posted anything except this report and the other has this in their bio:
"Protecting and Promoting Human Rights & the Rule of Law in the Occupied Palestinian Territory #BizHumanRights #EndIsraeliApartheid #EndImpunity #StandWithThe6"
If you want to put forward a credible rejoinder to the consensus that Israel did not bomb the hospital then I would think it will need to come from a source a lot less blatantly biased than that.
Wasn't that disproven days ago?
I can't speak to Channel Four's use of sources.
All I can point out is that aside from the obvious bias in the linked account mentioned above and the use of the term "IOF" @Lash noted, the Forensic Architecture thread also pointedly ends by affirming their solidarity with Palestinian people under attack.
Basic media literacy would suggest that whatever expertise they do or do not possess, they are a biased source.
Channel 4 News is very liberal/left wing and essentially what the Guardian would be if they were a news broadcaster. Not sure if you're UK based so apologies if this is not new to you.
Irrelevant. If people want to direct anger somewhere to hope to make a difference where it is possible in the current context, any foreign-based institution that represents the Egyptian government ought to feel the brunt.
Came to post this.
The clear fabrication of the audio by the Israelis is hilarious. If they were so certain they didn’t do it, why edit and splice together fake audio? It doesn’t make any sense.
This isn’t accurate.
Here is one of them (Mehdi/ the only one I really know about) discussing Biden‘s speech last night… He was also on air when the American-Palestinian kid got stabbed… And I believe they‘ve had the other 2 on air as well.
The Likud guy who went on RT and epically owned Putin also has a solution to the Gaza problem. This is the original, tweeted out by an Israeli think-tank, here is the translation:
The twitter page of the think-tank also has some interesting data about the poulation of Gaza...It's such a mystery what posting this polling data implies
The twitter page of the think-tank also has some interesting data about the poulation of Gaza...It's such a mystery what posting this polling data implies
Agree re the Gulf states staying silent, although I believe now the Saudis have spoken out about it in fairly pro-Palestinian terms (this is off the top of my head, I’ll need to double check).
In any case, the worst thing for the US will be if Saudi and Iran find some sort of conciliation, particularly if that comes through China. And this will undoubtedly have an impact on their normalisation deal with Israel. The most intriguing thing is how nervous we’ll see the US come in the coming months.
As someone who watches MSNBC, the claim sounds true to me. I noticed the change over the past couple of weeks.
Ali Velshi was also in Tel Aviv in the early days then mysteriously vanished.
Did you even watch the video? Skip over to 1:45 - there's a big difference between being a guest on the network vs hosting your own show where you get to pick the guests, the line of questioning, the way the stories are framed etc.
I might be being a bit thick here but,
If a rocket malfunctions then its direction on impact or of approach to impact my vary wildly from its direction of launch. It is not an artillery shell. Rockets can spiral when power or drag imbalances occur.
The Egyptian administration is going to feel it soon enough.
Why use loaded language Ffs! He could have easily said his point without using the word final.I think the "final resettlement" will be a one-way trip
All three are still on the air, Velshi is live out there, Ayman & Medhi still are on the weekends & are guests across the MSNBC day or night lineups.
He was down in southern Israel a few days ago, was on with Alex Wagner last night or the night before.
There hasn't been a purge.
Because all black people are drug dealers and the Irish terrorists. So yes, it was an idiotically stupid thing to ask.
Not a purge, but you can tell that they’re being put aside. Velshi would probably have stayed longer in the Middle East if they allowed him. I fully believe that there is something intentional, and I say that as a loyal MSNBC viewer.