Champions League Group A

Manchester United 0:1 Bayern Munich

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Tue, 12 December 2023 @ 8:00pm GMT
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    Pretty nothing half that

    Bayern not really getting out of first gear
    We aren't good enough again.

    Just nothing-Ness.
     
    Decision making by united players in the final third is woeful. Bayern as they have been in all of this Champions league campaign not overly impressive but probably more likely to find a way to win than United.
     
    Apart from a few moments of play where Bayern have carved through the middle, not a lot has really happened. We just need to create more.
     
    MEN…

    Onana

    Handled with care. 6

    Dalot

    Vital header at the far post. 6

    Maguire

    Solid until his removal. 6

    Varane

    Not done anything wrong. 7

    Shaw

    Offered the only goal threat. 7

    Amrabat

    Okay at best. 5

    McTominay

    Not much of a match for Bayern’s midfielders. 5

    Antony

    Careless too often. 5

    Fernandes

    Exerted little influence. 5

    Garnacho

    Not maximised some runs. 5

    Hojlund

    Starved. 5
     
    Yeah, so panicky on the ball but hey, we're working hard, sticking in there, need a break.
     
    The players look like they know they can't beat Bayern, there's only Antony who has their defenders on the ropes.

    Hojlund is a waste of money, I'll be gladly proved wrong but for the money we've paid, he should offer so much more than he does.
     
    See if we could just pick the right pass when it presents itself we’d be doing some serious buisness. Problem is even when the players pick that pass they somehow screw it up.

    There is a lot of good things happening but we just don’t seem to have anyone with the quality to find that pass. Hojlund makes good runs and more often than not no one seems to see them.
    McT has had 4-5 chances to put someone in and turned away from it.
     
    Nothing wrong with 0-0 at half time. They won’t push for a winner and could start taking players off for the weekend
     
    Yeah, I'm happy with that half. We haven't fallen apart and still in with a shot of getting a result. We've been pretty shit and Bayern a little lacklustre at times, not exactly a thrilling game but we don't need it to be. A dull 1-0 works.
     
    Brunos passing has been woeful. Hits the target vut puts them under unnecessary pressure by either being the wrong height or speed.
     
    Garnacho is out of his depth
    He's playing against better players today.. Give it to him

    What is more glaring is, how Bayern look to be physically better, conditioned well, running well, opening well to passes, being available for your teammate.

    I dont know what is our issue regarding all that, is it coaching, training, pure physical attributes... Very perplexing
     
    Actually, entire midfield and attack of ours have been plain average. There is effort, but simply not enough quality and not enough speed
     
    Bayern with Tuchel has no bottle. Mediocre in defense, midfield and attack, neither good at pressing, neither fast in transition or controlling the ball. Relying on individuals to produce something. The faster he goes the better for Bayern.
     
    Sorry, but I haven't seen any indication of the Hojlund's potential most keep talking about.

    He doesn't look like he has the tools to ever belong at this level.
     
    Kane and Sané look a bit tired today.
    Other than that an "okay" game from us.
     
    We lack so much quality. That midfield with McTominay and Amrabat is just a battering ram and nothing else. They have no idea what to do with the ball. Bruno is the only one showing any real quality in the front six. Garnacho has to improve his decision making so much, he’s constantly down blind alleys. Antony has been okay, but that’s the most generous I can be.

    Willing and hard working performance but a desperate lack of quality. I’d kill to have Mainoo and Eriksen on the pitch, simply because they can pick a pass. We are on a knife edge. Having to work so hard to close down in midfield because we are throwing bodies forward without a plan. Eventually Bruno or McTominay won’t track back fast enough, and they’ll waltz right through the middle. You can see it coming. There’s only so many lung busting runs the two of them can do to get back into position. One has to sit deeper.
     
    We move the ball so slow then compare that to Bayern who aren’t even at their best and they are still leagues above us technically.
     
    Time to go all in Erik.

    Reguillon for Shaw (Injury)
    Mainoo for Amrabat.
    Hanibal for Antony.

    Put Scotty up and play 442.

    Garnacho - Mainoo - Hanibal - Bruno
    Scott and Hojlund up top.
     
    Hardly the most exciting game I've ever seen, but nothing terrible by us either.

    Shame about Maguire. Probably out most consistent player recently and obviously having a bit of a career renaissance too. Hopefully nothing that derails him too much.
     
    Think we've been about as good as you can expect from us at the moment.

    Everyone is working hard, but the quality isn't there
     
    For all of you blaming it all on our managers, today you can see clearly that our players are simply not good enough. We only have tier 2-3 players, good for europa league at best. A symptom of a crappy system starting from the owners all the way down to the youth teams, including executives, scouts, players themselves etc
     
    Bayern is barely trying, but their defenders are just too good for our attackers. And by attackers I mean Garnacho because the rest has not even been threatening.

    Are they? I thought they would be until I heard they got twatted worse than us at the weekend so I'm guessing Tuchel is on the verge of being sacked and Bayern are in a dire crisis making this a must win, their most important game ever.
     
    Issue for Hojlund is both their CBs are fine against a big man - you need to put someone, dare I say it, like a Rashford/Martial on Kim because he's a bit of a Maguire fridge type player. That or just have Hojlund come super wide to drag one of them out and make some room for McT's runs through.

    They are just happy to sit off and then counter us, we are scared to take too many risks as a we're out if we concede realistically.
     
    Hojlund struggling.

    Yup but had one or two decent moments. Irritates me though that there was a chance to play him in at the end but Dalot ignored it.

    Hojlund needs to do better himself in this game but the lads have to try play him in more.
     
    There's such a massive difference in the speed and quality of the passing, movement and ball control from the Bayern players.

    Utd passing is just too slow, bobbly, first touches are sloppy. Not enough pace around the pitch either.
     
    His positioning is not good. Like it or not.
    I mean it's pretty obvious. The little "you've never played football" quip is even more weird as that's exactly the same brainless run I would make but then again I'm not a professional footballer.
     
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Player Ratings

4.5 Total Average Rating

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Compiled from 172 ratings.

Score Predictions

57,153,26
  • Man Utd win
  • Bayern Munich win
  • Draw

Detailed Results

  • 14% Man Utd 1:3 Bayern Munich
  • 13% Man Utd 0:3 Bayern Munich
  • 10% Man Utd 0:2 Bayern Munich
  • 9% Man Utd 2:1 Bayern Munich
  • 7% Man Utd 0:4 Bayern Munich
  • 6% Man Utd 1:2 Bayern Munich
  • 5% Man Utd 1:4 Bayern Munich
  • 4% Man Utd 1:1 Bayern Munich
  • 4% Man Utd 3:2 Bayern Munich
  • 3% Man Utd 1:0 Bayern Munich
  • 3% Man Utd 2:2 Bayern Munich
  • 3% Man Utd 0:9 Bayern Munich
  • 2% Man Utd 2:0 Bayern Munich
  • 2% Man Utd 3:1 Bayern Munich
  • 2% Man Utd 3:3 Bayern Munich
  • 1% Man Utd 1:5 Bayern Munich
  • 1% Man Utd 3:0 Bayern Munich
  • 1% Man Utd 0:5 Bayern Munich
  • 1% Man Utd 0:0 Bayern Munich
  • 1% Man Utd 0:7 Bayern Munich
  • 1% Man Utd 0:1 Bayern Munich
  • 1% Man Utd 2:5 Bayern Munich
  • 0% Man Utd 1:6 Bayern Munich
  • 0% Man Utd 4:2 Bayern Munich
  • 0% Man Utd 5:1 Bayern Munich
  • 0% Man Utd 5:5 Bayern Munich
  • 0% Man Utd 0:6 Bayern Munich
  • 0% Man Utd 6:1 Bayern Munich
  • 0% Man Utd 3:4 Bayern Munich
  • 0% Man Utd 2:4 Bayern Munich
  • 0% Man Utd 7:0 Bayern Munich
  • 0% Man Utd 3:9 Bayern Munich
  • 0% Man Utd 0:8 Bayern Munich
  • 0% Man Utd 9:9 Bayern Munich
  • 0% Man Utd 4:1 Bayern Munich
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Match Stats

  1. Man Utd
  2. Bayern Munich
Possession
41% 59%
Shots
5 10
Shots on Target
1 3
Corners
4 2
Fouls
10 9

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