We can circlejerk about their charges all we want, but the reality is 99% of fans don't give a shit about financial regulations, and if we don't get our act together, they will eventually surpass our domestic and European titles.
City and Financial Doping | Charged by PL with numerous FFP breaches
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
Sick of hearing media calling them a machine, juggernaut, etc.
Chris Wood's hat trick of misses and Son Heung Min's hilarious 1 on 1 attempt along with countless dubious refereeing decisions going their way won them the league imo. And this is supposedly the greatest ever Premier league side which the media is jerking off about?
Chris Wood's hat trick of misses and Son Heung Min's hilarious 1 on 1 attempt along with countless dubious refereeing decisions going their way won them the league imo. And this is supposedly the greatest ever Premier league side which the media is jerking off about?
I can't imagine him staying longer either. His greatest rival just left. He set the all time record for most consecutive titles and got the one trophy he wanted to win at City - the UCL - part of his second treble. I imagine that his motivation won't be the same.
Maybe that's what made Ferguson special (not that Pep and Klopp are not). Its hard to keep yourself and your team motivated year after year.
Sheer incompetence from the PL.
Given how they've handled cases with Everton and Nottingham Forest...
With the increased chatter around the charges (it's been more than a year right???) imagine if the PL got flustered into the worst possible resolution by just pressing the eject button and settling with them for a large fine only and no admission of guilt
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put it this way, if city get docked 4 points in november for example , Arsenal were simply TIME away from wining the title. its absurd. Not to mention that 4 points deduction would be an insult to football, but even something that small would be consequential this season.
Agreed
You can say a lot of things about Pep but this just doesn't make any sense whatsoever. It's like saying that Ronaldo should've signed for Sevilla after he left United but he chose the path of least resistance that guaranteed him a ton of trophies and glory instead.
Good analogy, and I've said the same thing for ages.
I can only imagine that the PL were praying that they didn't win it this season, as it's made the whole thing a joke, and them look incredibly weak, add in them punishing Forest and Everton with a points deduction that would have seen the finish second if they'd got the same treatment for dealing with just a couple of their charges this season, to add to the comedy.
Strange timing for Pep to announce he might leave soon. If you're a City fan, it surely puts a bit of a damper on your celebrations this evening.
Pep will make his decision based on how the 115 changes turns out. No way does he stay if they are guilty. You jump off the ship and at least act like you dont know what's going on.
Doesn't he say something to that effect every year? Feel like he's always moaning about something.
Maybe, but surely not an hour after lifting the title? Odd behaviour.
it helped a lot that ferguson was scottish. that inferiority complex meant he was forever trying to prove he was every bit as good as an englishman.
he just wants another 100m under the table payment to stick about a bit longer.
exactly. even if theyd dealt with the charges that were similar to evertons on a standalone, you have a history altering change to the league. Sad little city fans with their hands over their ears pretending it means something.
Switched the tv off after the Brighton game and will avoid sky sports news for the foreseeable. It’s bad enough Sky fawning over City but throw in Klopp as well it has the makings of verbal diarrhoea.
Most fans care if a club is cheating or not, surely.
A cushty "training day" in Abu Dhabi will be on the cards for him this summer.
Check out the conspiracy involving the NFL destroying taped practice film the Patriots used in Spygate. A number of people firmly believe the NFL destroyed taped practice film of the St Louis Rams that likely gave New England a massive advantage in Super Bowl XXXVI and the NFL destroyed the film as such acknowledgment would have crushed the league. Maybe it existed, maybe it did not, you decide. Some Rams players said the Patriots defensive players knew exactly where formations and plays were designed to go - to their disbelief. Sour grapes perhaps, conspiracy drivel maybe, or something more sinister.
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City are the most corrupt and illegitimate club in the history of sport.it is simply head spinning that this charade is happening again to finish a season. Everybody supposed to ignore the decades long, orchestrated campaign of cheatingwe will either look back from the point of view of a redeemed sport, or more likely, a sport that is completely unrecognisable, and see these recent years as an appalling episode of complacecy, conspiracy and greed, that very clearly was the death of the premier league. It is obscene that anybody is talking about anything else.
Well said. Them winning a fourth in a row is very bad. This is why I hope that INEOS install a good manger who can get us back to competing at the top level soon.
Easy to fix it,just cheat like city do. Have 115 outstanding FFP charges and tie the charges up with very expensive lawyers for years.
The lague cannot ignore the issue and remain legitimate.
In a global competition for viewership, other leagues will start to use it against us. One thing sponsors will run away from is dishonesty. The UK media is tame and won't speak out, the Indian media? Across Africa?
This is the story they will love to run.
In a global competition for viewership, other leagues will start to use it against us. One thing sponsors will run away from is dishonesty. The UK media is tame and won't speak out, the Indian media? Across Africa?
This is the story they will love to run.
What does this have to do with Ronaldo?!
The problem is that people are not taking League serious until everything is on the table and decided with transparency. Media and pundits try their best to make it intresting but ordinary supporters want this to be resolved.
Yes they obviously do. I understand people's want to focus on ourselves but tell me that Arsenal fans don't feel cheated today? You've clubs in the same bloody league docked points that would have given them the title. Also dismissing the extent of their cheating is naive and part of their strategy. Drag it on until people are so jaded they don't care. If they get punished as they should, it absolutely destroys their credibility and already paper thin reputation, so @Big Ben Foster you can call it a 'circle jerk' all you want at that point but you'd look a little foolish. Imo its simply the biggest story in sport and if you think there'd be any hint of casualness if United had 115 charges under Ferguson then you're feeding into the ideal mindset for a cheating club. They should be crucified
Nope, you're in a bubble if you think most fans care at all. I reckon most casual PL fans don't even know what FFP is.
Will always be tainted.
I'm seriously questioning if I'll waste my time into watching the PL next season.
It's completely absurd to have a team suspicious about cheating for the last 15 years and still let them compete and letting them win the last 2 trophies without anyone questioning it.
You might pick random 5 charges out of the 115 in any season and if you find as little as 1 offence probably they wouldn't have been champions in either.
I don't have the time to watch rigged shite so I'm probably gone if nothing's done in the off season.
It's completely absurd to have a team suspicious about cheating for the last 15 years and still let them compete and letting them win the last 2 trophies without anyone questioning it.
You might pick random 5 charges out of the 115 in any season and if you find as little as 1 offence probably they wouldn't have been champions in either.
I don't have the time to watch rigged shite so I'm probably gone if nothing's done in the off season.
I hear ya.
Hope they get found out soon.
If they get away with it, you’d hope opposition fans would protest or boycott at least.
When 1 team wins 6 of the last 7 league titles, that league is not the best in the world
have you seen online respose today? 'cheating' and 'lance armstrong' and '115' trending on twitter. Comments sections on mainstream outlets just a barrage of fans complaining while city fans give their stock replies and pretend they're happy. I agree there is a whole cohort of fans who experiece football very differently and dont really 'care' about any of it, and I do believe a lot of people are still so bitter about United that theyre just glad somebody else is winning, but no, in all leagues from hypothetical PSG cheating, to Milan cheating , to Bayern cheating, the majority of actual football fans care about the league being a sideshow.
Are those the real figures though, at this point there is a massive question mark over all of City's figures
Meh.
They're not legitimately breaking our records though are they. There's an asterisk next to every one of their trophies.
Yes, it's incredibly hard to fudge transfer figures because there's a club on the other side
Total expenditure? That's different
Again, you can believe your records aren't actually broken, though they actually are, and no, they won't actully be punished either.
But hey, better than having "annoying" Arsenal-fans winning a trophy or two, right?
Jeez, the amount of cope on this forum is unreal.
Agree with this completely. City stole Arsenals title. I have friends who had their clubs deducted points this season in the same league yet City had 0 deducted so get to win a league title.
It’s a disgrace really and notice while the going is good Pep will run away before charges are made? Clown show.
If they got relegated Pep will scurry away like the rest of the rats taking paycheques from Abu Dhabi.
It’s almost like these days he thinks he’s above Barcelona too. They could honestly do with him but nah probably not paying enough.