My predecitions were wrong.
England U21 v Serbia U21
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If you look at the TV footage you cold clearly see him say feck off.
Where's me old mucker, Mihajlovic today? 
Wonderful support last night.
Wonderful support last night.
Where's me old mucker, Mihajlovic today?
Wonderful support last night.
you just better shut up, lats time I was talking to you I got banned
This alone is not only unsubstatiated but also a racist thing to say
You and me both, Sinisa.
The old mod was a bit over the top I thought.
Anyway, must be nice to see your country enhance their reputation on a world stage.
You and me both, Sinisa.
The old mod was a bit over the top I thought.
Anyway, must be nice to see your country enhance their reputation on a world stage.
i`d be happier if they would qualify for the euro2008 and then show some good stuff
. yea i`m happy for the u21 but i wanna see some quality next year (hopefully)!!racism happens in all walks of life. Sadly there are racist serbs just like racist english people etc. You only have to look at our vidic - a great role model for his country to know that it comes down to the individual - it's a personal choice for some. The serbs let themselves down though. They could easily have been kicked out of the tournament. Hopefully it ends there and there's no more incident
It's not at all a racist thing to say England used to be a country with Racist attitudes during mainly the sixties and seventies and most of the eighties. There's plenty of footage of John Barnes and other black players having bananas thrown onto the pitch at them.
The difference between Britain today and Serbia is that Britain is a multi-cultural society that has been forced to modernise because of the influx of ethnic minorities into it's society.
Serbia hasn't ever been forced to deal with the problems within its footballing society and society at large. It's not a slur just a fact that especially after the war history of both Serbia and Montenegro there isn't the same focus on intergration within society that there is in Britain.
"Twats" who outplayed England u21 with reserve u21 team
You could easily argue England u21 had their reserves out there with the likes of Aghbonlahor, Richards, Bentley missing and even Rooney could have played. And thats just the start of missing players.
Are you saying that Serbia is not a multi-cultural society?
He said 'feck off, man' I saw the slow motion of it, you could have lip read it clearly, and the player was suspended for supposedly saying 'feck off, black'. it was Pool-Anderlecht match, and the Serbian player was Jestrovic.
here's a link, find more
http://football.guardian.co.uk/Match_Report/0,,1606614,00.html
edit: it's impossible to offend a Liverpool player
England's 2nd goal was disgraceful, yes, but why are we now talking about racist fans and shit
The Serbs are still through, so get over it
The Serbs are still through, so get over it
What their fans did was far worse than what Derbyshire "disgracefully" but in the laws of the game was allowed to do.
Bamsola, have you ever been to Serbia?
According to the last official census[21] data collected in 2002, ethnic composition of Serbia is:
* Total: 7,498,001
o Serbs: 6,212,844 (82.86%)
o Hungarians: 293,172 (3.91%)
o Bosniaks: 136,464 (1.82%)
o Roma: 107,971 (1.44%)
o Yugoslavs: 80,978 (1.08%)
o Others (each less than 1%): 666,572 (8.89%)
This is all from Wikipedia I admit. But in comparison to the UK which is what BAMSOLA was on about then you could easily argue that Serbia not a multi-cultural country. Least compared to Britain.
There is racism everywhere even right here in England. There is racism in India,In South America,In Australia,in Africa and in Asia.
Why aren't there any albaninas in that list?
No but i've had this same debate at university with two Serbian students present. They were perfectly happy to admit that a problem existed within Serbain society where people not so much of different race but different religion and skin colour were viewed as being somewhat inferior or trouble makers by wider society.
You're perfectly intital to disagree with that view but Its not racist to suggest that Serbian society is behind British society in its acceptance of those of different skin colour or creed. Its simply a fact that is clearly displayed throughout the history of not just Serbia but pretty much the whole of Balkans.
They're in the others section. However the Albanians in the Kosovo region did not take part in the official census.
What The feck Has All This Talk About Diversity And Countries Got To Do With The Match?
Didn't you watch the match?or read the match reports?
You have to be joking.
Have the balkan people ever in it's history enslaved people from other countries?
What is your statement based on?
You have to be joking.
Have the balkan people ever in it's history enslaved people from other countries?
LOL!
To Majstore!
Oh how wrong you are..
You have to be joking.
Have the balkan people ever in it's history enslaved people from other countries?
What is your statement based on?
Who mentioned enslavement?
I didn't, I also wasn't refering to a specific problem relating to Black people. I was refering to the religious and cultural wars that have taken place all over the Balkans and the subsequent Nationalism that has resulted from these wars.
It's not so long ago that Slobadan Milosevic was head of state in Yugoslavia and when you see the kind of ethnic cleansing that he's been found guilty of by the hague and the popularity that he still maintains amongst much of Serbia's population you understand that a problem still exists.
I say it again, You've made your point Bamsola.
There is no need for you to continue to say the same things over and over again.
There is no need for you to continue to say the same things over and over again.
Iam perfectly happy to put the issue to bed for now, mainly because I've had to high-jack a thread about a football match to discuss an issue that I've long felt needs discussing.
Maybe we'll find time in future to have a serious discussion about the issue because I don't believe i'm wrong and nothing you've said so far has even come close to convincing me that I might be.
Iam perfectly happy to put the issue to bed for now, mainly because I've had to high-jack a thread about a football match to discuss an issue that I've long felt needs discussing.
Maybe we'll find time in future to have a serious discussion about the issue because I don't believe i'm wrong and nothing you've said so far has even come close to convincing me that I might be.
We have much bigger problems to deal with in Serbia right now.
First we need to get rid of all the corrupt politicians, and the organized crime.
Probably true, but they would have been 4-0 down within 30 mins against Ingerlund, if Lita hadn't missed 2 absolute sitters. I'm dissapointed that Italy & Portugal are out, as I'd rather watch them than England. Still musn't grumble England might actually win this now
English only please. If your saying you'll have us in the final, we'll have to wait & see Belgium & Holland are both decent sides, plus you still might get sent home after what went on last night (wouldn't surprise me as it offers Italy another chance)
I believe UEFA wont be able to deal with this before the tournament ends, so I dont think that will happend.
Yeah it will probably be dealt after the tournament..if it was England fans who who caused the trouble...whole other question in my opinion.
You never said what this means, was I close? naguzicemo ih u finalu
Naravski
Naravski
You were absolutely right mate
It means that we will beat you in the final.
And Naravski means "of course", but in serbian it would be "naravno".
I dont know where Evilgeko is from, probably a slavic country.
And beat GLOBAL WARMING.
So have you got any more players like Vida for us ILBB? If you could choose one young Serbian player to come to Utd who would it be?