Danny Welbeck

Achieved top. Achieved.

I'm pretty sure he meant to say archived. He needs to extract the achievement out of his archives.
 
This has the potential to be an excellent loan for him. I definitely need to see this goal he's scored. It's being hyped up a lot.

Right now he just needs to play important games and get used to the pressure of winning them. Keep up the good work.
 
I don't agree with a lot of your post but this bit is particularly baffling. Both of them were awesome in tandem for the Academy and Reserves, they had a brilliant understanding. We've seen little of them in the first team together upfront though, but still they've looked promising and both of them combined well at times against Everton in the FA Cup semi final for crying out loud - there passing and movement was very clever and they looked our biggest threat.

at the end of the day I dont support Manchester United for the reserves and academy, and I am sure most United fans dont either. They have had a couple of spells together in the first team and from their reserves experience with each other you would think they may actually have an understanding of each other. But from what I have seen be it very little for the first team (1-3 appearances together) they just look like they are both trying to impress individually rather than as a strike partnership.
 
Easy to forget that a lot of times Welbeck has played on the wing for us. And he really doesn't have the tools to be a winger so it has to be difficult to impress. Whenever I have seen him play upfront I have been impressed with him. He provides a good physical presence as well as good link up play. He is only 19 after all.
 
I just feel he doesnt give 100% at all.

A lot of people said that about Henry too. He didn't turn out too bad.

Typical of Welbeck to score a great goal as his first goal for the club. I'm still very optimistic that once he pulls it all together - his ability to score from so many different positions and with plenty of different techniques, the way he glides with the ball caressing it beautifully, his presence which once he's fully matured physically I feel will be very impressive, his one and two touch play in and around the box and his awareness of space - it can all make him a great player.

I feel I'm almost setting him up for a fall with the hopes I have for him but I'll be absolutely gutted if neither he or Macheda make it with us long-term.

Right now both look very raw, but I have high hopes. Welbeck on the one hand has plenty of variety to his game but a lot of the time he misplaces passes, overruns things, tries to be too cute and he ends up being terribly wasteful.

Whereas on the other hand Macheda looked a lot less multi-dimensional but since his debut he's been added parts to his game in a very impressive way I feel. He's dribbling better, his awareness of others outside the box is looking more impressive, and he's got the presence to be a wonderful targetman if he learns how to position himself up against the strikers and play off him.

I can't help but be excited about them both.
 
at the end of the day I dont support Manchester United for the reserves and academy, and I am sure most United fans dont either. They have had a couple of spells together in the first team and from their reserves experience with each other you would think they may actually have an understanding of each other. But from what I have seen be it very little for the first team (1-3 appearances together) they just look like they are both trying to impress individually rather than as a strike partnership.
So you just based your judgment on 1-3 appearances together. Well done. Now tell us whether Diouf will be a success or not based on his 1-2 subs appearances so far.
 
Good post Brwned. Pretty much sums up my opinion and hopes for Welbeck. Kiko's injury happened at the worst possible time for him. His progress this season is somewhat lost on alot of fans due to the lack of exposure hes got in the 1st team. I personally think his all round game has come on a hell of a lot in the last 6 months.
 
Shown several glimpses of amazing talent and ability and scored a few absolute beauties for the first team? Played his way into England u21s at a very young age? Scored on his home debut for Preston? Proved time and time again he's one of the very best academy and reserve team players we've had since the class of 92 (if not the best)? Other than that I can only assume he must have given it to you mother, sister or gf at some point.

Or the fact that these several glimpses of quality are non existant maybe?
 
I don't get the nay-sayers when it comes to Welbeck. I agree that his progress stalled a bit over the last year; he's not managed to kick on since making his first team debut, and in general he still looks too young and inexperienced when called upon. But he clearly has talent, he's a local lad (which to me at least is important - the squad needs some Manchester players born and bred) and I've never seen any signs of him having any personality flaws. He needs some experience, and a loan like this is a great chance for that.

I can understand people not rating him, but people United fans saying "I can't stand him" I find weird as feck
 
Yeah, we're all imagining it.

He's shown himself to be talentless really.

I've not seen one instance of himself showin him to be a player for a side competing in Europe.

Along with the fact he seems to Stop our attacks more than he helps them (which includes losing the ball softly to give away goals)
 
:lol:

"Hate" Danny Welbeck... there's much better words... If you hate the lad, I fear for your personal grudges in life.
 
I've not seen one instance of himself showin him to be a player for a side competing in Europe.

Along with the fact he seems to Stop our attacks more than he helps them (which includes losing the ball softly to give away goals)[/QUOTE]

Still aggrieved about Leeds then?
 
I've not seen one instance of himself showin him to be a player for a side competing in Europe.

Along with the fact he seems to Stop our attacks more than he helps them (which includes losing the ball softly to give away goals)

I'd imagine not a lot of strikers score a goal like he did in his first appearance for the first-team at the age of 18.
 
I've not seen one instance of himself showin him to be a player for a side competing in Europe.

Along with the fact he seems to Stop our attacks more than he helps them (which includes losing the ball softly to give away goals)[/QUOTE]

Still aggrieved about Leeds then?

that is one instance of him doing it, with his party trick of running directly into the stationary defender, falling over and throwing a hussy fit a la ronaldo last season

I'd imagine not a lot of strikers score a goal like he did in his first appearance for the first-team at the age of 18.

Yes because that wasn't a fluke was it, that's why he has done it since :rolleyes:
 
I'd imagine not a lot of strikers score a goal like he did in his first appearance for the first-team at the age of 18.[

A memorable goal indeed and one you can tell your grandchildren about:)

In the context of the game it was insignificant but the problem with his critics on here and matchgoing reds is that, that feat was expected to be repeated every time he stepped on the pitch.

For some it would appear leaving a young player alone to develop and supporting him through this is beyond them.
 
that is one instance of him doing it, with his party trick of running directly into the stationary defender, falling over and throwing a hussy fit a la ronaldo last season



Yes because that wasn't a fluke was it, that's why he has done it since :rolleyes:

I meant it as an ironic remark not apportioning blame. Many balmed him for the goal in the initial phase but IMO they are way wrong.

By the way as you state "it was one instance"...can you directly reference another?
 
Yes because that wasn't a fluke was it, that's why he has done it since :rolleyes:

Aye, he should have scored at least two or three more identical goals since, in his handful of first-team appearances, otherwise it was definitely a fluke.

I mean, Rooney scores goals like that every couple of weeks.
 
I meant it as an ironic remark not apportioning blame. Many balmed him for the goal in the initial phase but IMO they are way wrong.

By the way as you state "it was one instance"...can you directly reference another?

Luckily our defence has bailed him out alot when he does that, so the many occasions he does it it just gets glossed over, in games like all 3 against derby last season he did, wolves this year, the CC final last year etc...
 
Or the fact that these several glimpses of quality are non existant maybe?

I can't help you, mate.

Great to see him get off to a good start. Just hope his knee is up for the demands of a hectic schedule in a physical league. I really thought Sir would keep him wrapped up in cotton wool for a little while longer considering Danny hasn't really had a proper run of full games at any level all season. Pleasantly surprised he's deemed strong enough for this.
 
Surely it's hard to to "hate" the lad FFS :rolleyes:
He has some silky skills and moves which admittedly were shown off more often in the academy and reserves but clearly made him stand out enough to warrant a shot or two in the big league, albeit in Carling cup and games we were very short-staffed for but did score a couple of corkers.

I think the kid has real talent but
a) As yet is not strong enough to withstand the physicality of the Premiership
b) Has been playing in variety of places when chosen for the first team and really needs to establish his "best" position in the mind of the gaffer.
c) Needs to toughen up and play week in week out.

At Preston he will get that chance to play regularly (I hope) One great goal on his debut will bolster his confidence but IMO it's from the school of hard knocks that he'll get at Preston that will test him, teach him and in the end "make or break" him.
 
Luckily our defence has bailed him out alot when he does that, so the many occasions he does it it just gets glossed over, in games like all 3 against derby last season he did, wolves this year, the CC final last year etc...

Derby? when he scored a cracker from the left, curling it past the goalie?

Wolves? when he bailedusout after Fabio got sent off.

I was at the CC cup final. I don't recall him having a bad game, in ineffective one in his 1st big final maybe but he was there for experience.

Your points of reference are at least inaccurate at worst suggest an agenda against the player
 
Yes because that wasn't a fluke was it, that's why he has done it since :rolleyes:

Wow, standards really must be dropping if someone who fails to understand the game as much as you do is getting promoted.

I tried really hard to stay away from saying it but you've just taken it too far.
 
Derby? when he scored a cracker from the left, curling it past the goalie?

Wolves? when he bailedusout after Fabio got sent off.

I was at the CC cup final. I don't recall him having a bad game, in ineffective one in his 1st big final maybe but he was there for experience.

Your points of reference are at least inaccurate at worst suggest an agenda against the player

I was at all of them, and he was god awful in each.

Wow, standards really must be dropping if someone who fails to understand the game as much as you do is getting promoted.

I tried really hard to stay away from saying it but you've just taken it too far.

Or maybe you have blind faith, and find yourself incapable of criticising an average player.
 
Welbeck looks completely out of his depth most times I watch him. Yet he has still done a few good things.

His touch is also extremely unconsistent, and is the player who frustrates me most alongside Anderson.

Lets see what he can do, when hes had another year growing, more experience and playing regularly as a striker.
 
Welbeck looks completely out of his depth most times I watch him. Yet he has still done a few good things.

His touch is also extremely unconsistent, and is the player who frustrates me most alongside Anderson.

Lets see what he can do, when hes had another year growing, more experience and playing regularly as a striker.

You can't seriously compare him alongside Anderson. One has a handful of 1st team appearances and the other is ...well Anderson!
 
If you were at each of those game and can't find a single positive thing to say about him then your motives are highly suspect

How come pretty much everyone who was at them all doesn't either does that sound irrational on my behalf to be in the majority of those seeing off the ball incidents and slating him?
 
If I remember correctly, phelans shorts rates Berbatov more highly than Rooney so his view on Welbeck isn't all that surprising in truth.
 
How come pretty much everyone who was at them all doesn't either does that sound irrational on my behalf to be in the majority of those seeing off the ball incidents and slating him?

Well we only have your testimony on this forum to back up that claim. I doubt you spoke to everyone and it's clear that you don't speak for the majority on here.

What I want to know is that if Welbeck does make it at Utd will you come on here and admit what an arse you made of yourself or still stick your belief that he's shit