Let's face it though, Glaston, Spurs are minnows in the Premier League, you've not a chance in hell of finishing top four next season.
Luka Modric / Signs for Real Madrid
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Tottenham could do well in Europa. For some reason, I don't think they will, though.
By my reckoning they need to address
GK: Gomes is shit and Friedel is not a starter
Defence: No fit top class defenders, Bassong and Kaboul want out and Woodgate and King are permacrocks.
Midfield: Reasonabe shape here but plenty of people to move on
Attack: Could conceivably want to move all four of their first choice strikers.
Plenty of work to do as I see it.
GK: Gomes is shit and Friedel is not a starter
Defence: No fit top class defenders, Bassong and Kaboul want out and Woodgate and King are permacrocks.
Midfield: Reasonabe shape here but plenty of people to move on
Attack: Could conceivably want to move all four of their first choice strikers.
Plenty of work to do as I see it.
If only they had a manager who liked to wheel'n'deal.
Considering that, in the last 6 years, we've finished 5th three times and 4th once - with an intervening blip caused more by managerial turmoil than anything else - I'd say that your "not a chance" assessment is bollocks.
The composition of the top 4 has changed in each of the last 2 seasons, following many seasons prior to that when it was more or less the same 4 clubs every time. That indicates a potential longer-term breaking up of the ice-pack: there are no guarantees whatsoever that the coming season won't see more of the "old top 4" cracking under the pressure.
Untill the transfer windows closes it's premature to make judgments as to which clubs will finish where this coming season. But at this stage - and given the trend of recent seasons - it's all to play for. I've no doubt that the mood in the Spurs camp currently is reasonably upbeat.
You're probably best off selling Modric anyway, you could use his fee to sort out serious areas of weakness in your squad namely defensively in goal and up front.
We'll give you Carrick as a sweetner.
We'll give you Carrick as a sweetner.
Would you accept Carrick and Berbatov in exchange for Modric Glaston?
GK: I'll take the Spurs trio of GKs - Gomes, Friedel and Cudicini - over Arsenal's current options. If a really top GK becomes available and willing to sign, then fine, but otherwise I'm not too concerned.
Defence: Dawson and Gallas are hardly rubbish. Kaboul does not want out. Walker will come into contention for the RB slot and Ekotto at LB is pretty decent IMO. Again, if a top CB becomes available and willing to sign, then fine, but otherwise I'm not too concerned. We did sign the S. African CB Khumalo in January ... so it remains to be seen what chances he will get this season and how he'll shape up.
Longer-term (the season after this coming one) we have 19 year-old Steven Caulker coming through the ranks and he's possibly the best current Spurs prospect. He'll likely be loaned out to a Prem club this season, but has received rave reviews everywhere he's played so far.
Midfield: "Reasonable shape" you say? It's more than that: so far I don't see a better overall midfield quartet (Sandro, Modric, Bale, Lennon) at any other Prem club for next season. And that excludes mentioning players like VdV and Huddlestone. However, I wouldn't say no to another pacy wide player - if only to provide injury cover for Bale/Lennon.
Strikers: This is where most of the "plenty of work" needs to occur.
Ourselves, Arsenal, City and Chelsea all have better midfields then you.
No. I prefer the club to think long-term.
In any case, I doubt Carrick would displace Sandro next season and we also have Huddlestone - so we don't need Carrick.
Berbatov is a different kettle of fish and a really good striker ... but not if Modric is the price.
You/they really don't.
Really? Because out of that so called best quartet in the PL, Modric would be the only one that would improve United's midfield.
Same with Arsenal's.
We/they really do.
Are you serious?? Or just trolling?
Our wingers are better than yours, and Carrick is better than Sandro at the moment. Modric, yeh, that's obviously a big difference, but in no way does his ability compared to our other midfielder outweigh the other three players
It's difficult to compare with Arsenal and Chelsea, as they tend to prefer the three in central midfield
Insanity, you basically think there's nothing wrong with goalkeepers and defenders that let in nearly 50 goals in the league last season?
Worryingly, he is.
So why has this forum has been full of posts from Man. Utd fans wanting Bale?
And most Spurs fans would not now be willing to swap Sandro for Carrick - the former broke into the Spurs first XI with quite an impact in the 2nd half of last season. I forsee a big season ahead for him.
Goebbels was deadly serious too. Propaganda is no laughing matter.
If the basis of your argument is what a few caftards want to happen, then I'd suggest your argument is seriously seriously flawed.
A few people on here want us to sign Tarabeet, so by Glaston Spurs logic that means...Tarabeet >>> Nani.
He's a good young player, big potential. He's not better than Nani. He certainly wasn't better than Nani over the course of last season either. POTY doesn't change that.
And Valencia > Lennon obviously.
Your of the view that a:
Lennon - Modric - Sandro - Bale
Midfield is better than a:
Valencia/Young - Fletcher - Carrick - Nani
Really? id say we have the stronger wingers and as of today Carrick is still clearly a superior player to Young sandro, not that im a huge fan or raver of Carrick but Sandros done nothing in the game to be labelled a better player as of today.
You've basically got Modric whod walk into our midfield and strengthen it.
As for Bale i think youd be surprised at how many of us really dont by the hype and certainly wouldnt swap him for a certain winger at United whos stats last season vastly bettered those of Bale, a certain Ashley Young who got nothing of the hype Bale did last season in a far inferior Villa side had better stats to by the way.
Lennon - Modric - Sandro - Bale
Midfield is better than a:
Valencia/Young - Fletcher - Carrick - Nani
Really? id say we have the stronger wingers and as of today Carrick is still clearly a superior player to Young sandro, not that im a huge fan or raver of Carrick but Sandros done nothing in the game to be labelled a better player as of today.
You've basically got Modric whod walk into our midfield and strengthen it.
As for Bale i think youd be surprised at how many of us really dont by the hype and certainly wouldnt swap him for a certain winger at United whos stats last season vastly bettered those of Bale, a certain Ashley Young who got nothing of the hype Bale did last season in a far inferior Villa side had better stats to by the way.
They should've sold Bale after the Inter game. Too late now, the footballing world has wised up.
A few?If the basis of your argument is what a few caftards want to happen, then I'd suggest your argument is seriously seriously flawed.
A few people on here want us to sign Tarabeet, so by Glaston Spurs logic that means...Tarabeet >>> Nani.
Try running a yes/no poll about the the option of playing Nani on the right, bringing Bale into the left side and - as a consequence - benching/selling Valencia. I'd guess the yays would win.
A few?
Try running a yes/no poll about the the option of playing Nani on the right, bringing Bale into the left side and - as a consequence - benching/selling Valencia. I'd guess the yays would win.
He's a bit shit, to be fair.
A few?
Try running a yes/no poll about the the option of playing Nani on the right, bringing Bale into the left side and - as a consequence - benching/selling Valencia. I'd guess the yays would win.
Good luck with that.
A few?
Try running a yes/no poll about the the option of playing Nani on the right, bringing Bale into the left side and - as a consequence - benching/selling Valencia. I'd guess the yays would win.
Make it stop!
Actually, I've said there is no better midfield quartet in the Prem - that's not the same as saying they are the best ... but IMO they are certainly as good as any another current quartet in the Prem
A few?
Try running a yes/no poll about the the option of playing Nani on the right, bringing Bale into the left side and - as a consequence - benching/selling Valencia. I'd guess the yays would win.
You still seem to think that using caftard logic for your argument somehow strenghtens it
You are ignoring the most ridiculous of his points, i.e. that their defence is fine. Nearly 50 fecking goals leaked and it's fine.
I think you'd be surprised Glaston, plenty of us really don't care much for Bale, on the basis of last season he had about half a dozen genuine stand out games, other than that he really wasn't that amazing hence his lack of goals and assists overall.
A few?
Try running a yes/no poll about the the option of playing Nani on the right, bringing Bale into the left side and - as a consequence - benching/selling Valencia. I'd guess the yays would win.
I doubt any United fan would want Valencia sold. He's one of the best traditional wingers in the world at the moment. There's no messing with our Antonio!
Playing football on paper again are we Glaston? That does seem to be a favourite in all your arguments.
Face it, there are at least 4 teams with a better midfield then yourselves. Interestingly, it's those 4 teams that finished above yourselves last season. There's something to think about eh?
So your logic is based on calling every Man. Utd caftard who wants Bale a muppet - just because they disagree with you?
Less than excellent and not very apt.
Seeing as very few sides play with a midfield 4 anyway surely thats a pretty redundant point? Arsenal and City play with 5 man midfield's, Chelsea at their best do the same and have no real wingers to play a 4 anyway so basically only us and yourselves of the genuine upper echelon clubs play a midfield 4.
Let me put it another way, do you think Sandro and Lennon for example would get near any other top clubs midfield?
A midfield 4 is little more than one-third of a team, so hardly the sole basis for determining league finishing positions.
There's something else to think about eh?
Most United fans are happy about Phil Jones signing for us, doesn't mean that we have all decided that Vidic and Rio are inferior though.
Just because people would be happy to see United sign a young, left footed Welsh winger who has a lot of potential doesn't mean that he is better than what we have. He's not as talented as Nani and he's not as effective as Valencia, both are superior to him. That might not always be the case but on the basis of last season that is a fact.
Oh don't get me wrong, there are plenty of other factors...Your shocking defense (over 50 goals conceded
), your feeble attack and the fact that your manager has no tactical awareness being the main three...But that still doesn't take away from the fact that the 4 teams that finished above you do have a better midfield then you.As I've said, I wouldn't swap Sandro for Carrick - nor for Song at Arsenal either.
And we can all play the same "get near" game. Do you think Arshavin would displace Bale at Spurs? And which City player would displace him? etc etc
Or do you think that any Man. Utd CM duo would displace Sandro and Modric?
... anyhow, I'm off out for the moment.