Luka Modric / Signs for Real Madrid

charlenefan said:
There's a reason why papers link clubs to players though, it's not because it's factually correct it's because it sells papers

If players like Modric were ten a penny then we'd be linked with them if the interest was real or not, the fact that we're only being linked to a very limited number of players tells me that players like Modric aren't as readily available like some seem to think
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You'd be surprised if you go through the whole list my friend...

We don't need to be constantly linked to a player ( By also a shite newspaper ) to be informed that we are going to sign a player...

Just to name a few that we'd be linked with soon...

Banega
Defour
Goetze
Kagawa
Pastore
Hamsik
M'Vila
Marvin Martin

And these are just the appetizors...

So just relax and find maybe the Sneidjer/Hamsik/Pastore thread to ease off your worries.
 
WireRed said:
That 37 year old didn't cost north of £30m and command a salary of £7m a year net to come and adapt to playing CM. Nobody is saying Sneijder can't play CM, but his talents are best suited to the classic 10 role, shelling out those sums for a makeshift CM would be a gamble and would represent feck all value for money in the long run.

We don't need Sneijder at all, Nasri on the other hand for a cut price fee would be a good bit of business and he's shown enough potential at Arsenal as a CM in Cesc's absence that he could develop into a top CM should Wenger/his next club give him a consistent run in that position. I don't think he'll rock up here though sadly.

I think Fergie would love Modric here but when a player wants to remain in a certain place geographically, there's nothing you can do about it. Responding to that by splurging cash for the sake of it isn't the answer and is never something SAF has done or needed to do in his building of great United sides.
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Good post. Agree entirely. Still think we will bid for modric but sounds like he wants to stay in london. Any interest in nasri or sneijder is likely to be due to a lack of options that fit better. Sneijder in particular was available before and we didn't get involved.
 
Can we rule out the possibility that his agent was told by United that we won't pay over a certain amount (which he knows is less than what Spurs would sell him for) and hence why he comes out with the "I want to sign for Chelsea" line?
 
charlenefan said:
I honestly think if we sign Modric then other clubs in the league wouldn't stand a chance and we'd pretty much be set for the next 4/5 years
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You can't guarantee something like that. We walked 3 titles on the spin until 2001, signed Veron and Van Nistelrooy yet didn't win it the following season and won 1 in 4 season's following their arrival. Modric would add something to us or any club he joined, but to say he's the difference between maybe winning the league and giving the rest no chance is nonsense.

If he doesn't want to leave London and there is no better option available out there at a reasonable price in SAF's opinion, then we'll get on with it and watch the likes of Anderson and Cleverley continue to mature and improve and further down the track see the likes of Pogba and Morrison blooded into the first team squad.
 
Mainoldo said:
I don't think Inter, Milan, Madrid, Barca or even Bayern would batter an eyelid if he went to Chelsea.
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So only players that Real, Barca et all are interested in can command a 40m fee? Nothing to do with what the selling club value him at? :o
 
so, he's going to chelsea? just to know, I can't read all the previous pages, I'm half asleep.
 
Mad said:
Can we rule out the possibility that his agent was told by United that we won't pay over a certain amount (which he knows is less than what Spurs would sell him for) and hence why he comes out with the "I want to sign for Chelsea" line?
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Would be great, but the quotes mentioned wouldn't have come out if he wanted a United move, "I love London" basically rules out pretty much any other team apart from the renties.

The only way we'd get Modric now is that Chelsea will not match the price Spuds are asking for and we actually will...

Something I hope we don't do.
 
sincher said:
Good post. Agree entirely. Still think we will bid for modric but sounds like he wants to stay in london. Any interest in nasri or sneijder is likey to be due to a lack of options tha fit better. Sniejde in particular was available before and we didn't get involved.
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I think the reason we haven't got involved in central midfield transfers for quite a while has been the Owen Hargreaves recovery factor, mixed with the Anderson potential factor, with a little of the 1 more year from Scholes factor thrown in for good measure.

And btw, I'm pretty certain Modric will feck London right off if we match Chelsea's bid.

Signing Sneijder or Nasri would send out a much greater message to the likes of Barca and Madird than signing Modric. If SAF honestly thinks Nasri or Sneijder don't fit then he won't just go for them anyway, no chance, he'll no doubt be looking at the likes of Benega or Defour.
 
charlenefan said:
So only players that Real, Barca et all are interested in can command a 40m fee? Nothing to do with what the selling club value him at? :o
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Palermo Value Pastore at £40m. Lets see who pays it shall we. But wasn't actually the point i was getting across...
 
With the thread title update; considering what he has said should the 'to United' bit not be removed? He's talking about Chelsea, he ain't coming to United.
 
WireRed said:
You can't guarantee something like that. We walked 3 titles on the spin until 2001, signed Veron and Van Nistelrooy yet didn't win it the following season and won 1 in 4 season's following their arrival. Modric would add something to us or any club he joined, but to say he's the difference between maybe winning the league and giving the rest no chance is nonsense.
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Good point, but you've really got to factor in the other circumstances back then i.e. the form of the Arsenal team, Chelsea coming into money, us going into a transitional period losing the likes of Roy Keane (or at least compensating for him)

Obviously we could sign Modric and City meanwhile sign Xavi, Iniesta, Ronaldo & Messi but at this moment in time at least I cant see any other club in the country getting near us should we get Modric
 
charlenefan said:
:lol:
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Why is that funny? He's had an excellent season and a quarter in CM for Spurs, that hardly elevates him into world record transfer fee category does it? If he went for £40m, he'd be the 5th most expensive player of all time in case people have lost sight of that in this cash crazy, value ignorant transfer market of the modern day. He's a good player, would add something to most club's but not deserving of such an outlay that should be reserved for player's at the very peak of the game.
 
RedThaiDevils#7 said:
Would be great, but the quotes mentioned wouldn't have come out if he wanted a United move, "I love London" basically rules out pretty much any other team apart from the renties.
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It really doesn't.

Tevez hated Manchester, he still signed for the only 2 clubs in that city.

Modric saying he loves London is part of his charm offensive to the fans he's leaving behind, as if to say, I'm only choosing a local rival because I love this city so much. Moving 2 hours to Manchester wouldn't be an issue if we wanted him, judging by his comments though I don't think we do.
 
charlenefan said:
Good point, but you've really got to factor in the other circumstances back then i.e. the form of the Arsenal team, Chelsea coming into money, us going into a transitional period losing the likes of Roy Keane (or at least compensating for him)

Obviously we could sign Modric and City meanwhile sign Xavi, Iniesta, Ronaldo & Messi but at this moment in time at least I cant see any other club in the country getting near us should we get Modric
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I love the optimism of you wanting Modric but its not the end of the world.
 
charlenefan said:
Good point, but you've really got to factor in the other circumstances back then i.e. the form of the Arsenal team, Chelsea coming into money, us going into a transitional period losing the likes of Roy Keane (or at least compensating for him)

Obviously we could sign Modric and City meanwhile sign Xavi, Iniesta, Ronaldo & Messi but at this moment in time at least I cant see any other club in the country getting near us should we get Modric
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Yeah, but there'd be no guarantee of the player finding the form that's got him all this attention, nor is there a guarantee of him justifying the sort of fee it'll take for Spurs to part with him. I'm not questioning whether he'd improve us or even that Fergie wants him here(I think he does)but signing him wouldn't put us that much further ahead of the other sides than we are now IMO, certainly wouldn't put us out of reach of the rest of the division even if nobody signed anyone else from here on in.
 
WireRed said:
Why is that funny? He's had an excellent season and a quarter in CM for Spurs, that hardly elevates him into world record transfer fee category does it? If he went for £40m, he'd be the 5th most expensive player of all time in case people have lost sight of that in this cash crazy, value ignorant transfer market of the modern day. He's a good player, would add something to most club's but not deserving of such an outlay that should be reserved for player's at the very peak of the game.
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It's funny for the exact same reason which you've gone on to elaborate on, that there's this myth that only players in the Zidane, Ronaldo, Kaka mould can demand those kind of fees or alternatively only players signing for Real Madrid can demand those kind of fees.

Players like Ronaldo & Messi aren't ten a penny which is why these days those players dont command the £47m it cost to get Zidane back in the nineties but more the £80-100m paid/quoted.

It's actually quite ironic that you say the £40m upwards fee should be reserved for players at their peak when Torres is far from that Kaka likewise.
 
datura said:
How do you know that and why worry about what other teams think?
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How do I know? well because both of those players are more highly rated in World football. Do I care, no? I'm just trying to make the point that Modric aint the be all and end all like some of you think. There are other players that are rated higher by most people outside England, that's my point.

datura said:
The most important thing is that SAF gets his main target, whoever they maybe and irregardless of their profile.
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Totally agreed and it certainly doesn't look like Modric is SAF's man considering he hasn't even bothered to make an offer.
 
Great news that he wants to sign for Chelsea - we can look elsewhere - his name on the teamsheet won't give you any alarms.
 
Sharky7 said:
It really doesn't.

Tevez hated Manchester, he still signed for the only 2 clubs in that city.

Modric saying he loves London is part of his charm offensive to the fans he's leaving behind, as if to say, I'm only choosing a local rival because I love this city so much. Moving 2 hours to Manchester wouldn't be an issue if we wanted him, judging by his comments though I don't think we do.
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I agree, my bad for saying its absolutely sure but it does lessen our chances on landing the player
 
WireRed said:
Yeah, but there'd be no guarantee of the player finding the form that's got him all this attention, nor is there a guarantee of him justifying the sort of fee it'll take for Spurs to part with him. I'm not questioning whether he'd improve us or even that Fergie wants him here(I think he does)but signing him wouldn't put us that much further ahead of the other sides than we are now IMO, certainly wouldn't put us out of reach of the rest of the division even if nobody signed anyone else from here on in.
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Based on the fact that we won the title with a crap midfield last season, Modric coming in improving that area should surely put us further away from our challengers?

That's at least the theory everyone is using when they shit themselves at the prospect of Barcelona signing Sanchez....
 
Sharky7 said:
It really doesn't.

Tevez hated Manchester, he still signed for the only 2 clubs in that city.

Modric saying he loves London is part of his charm offensive to the fans he's leaving behind, as if to say, I'm only choosing a local rival because I love this city so much. Moving 2 hours to Manchester wouldn't be an issue if we wanted him, judging by his comments though I don't think we do.
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You do know that for some player's, Manchester United isn't the be all and end all or the pinnacle? Just because he's indicated that he'd like to remain in London, doesn't mean we aren't/weren't interested. If he and his family are settled there and don't want to uproot, who the feck are we to question that and whether it's a smokescreen or not? Manchester might be a couple of hours train ride away but moving house, moving his kids schools, settling into a new area etc make it much more complex than a simple 2 hour journey aprt from London.

My take is that ourselves and City were interested in him but his preference not to uproot up here means we'll not pursue the matter further, which United and City's silence in the transfer situation with him would seem to back up.
 
To really name it... A player that probably had a better season than Modric was Sahin... Amazingly he went for only 8m...

I can't understand why we didn't go for him, was probably one of the best players in the Bundes but yet sold for a Bebe' or so...

Has the potential to be even better than Modric as his set plays and eye for the through ball are probably even better.

I'm gutted we missed out....
 
charlenefan said:
It's funny for the exact same reason which you've gone on to elaborate on, that there's this myth that only players in the Zidane, Ronaldo, Kaka mould can demand those kind of fees or alternatively only players signing for Real Madrid can demand those kind of fees.

Players like Ronaldo & Messi aren't ten a penny which is why these days those players dont command the £47m it cost to get Zidane back in the nineties but more the £80-100m paid/quoted.

It's actually quite ironic that you say the £40m upwards fee should be reserved for players at their peak when Torres is far from that Kaka likewise.
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Last time i checked Modric has never performed to their level. Hence their fee's
 
I tried to stay away from this thread until some credible rumours started coming though.

But this is very bad news. Chelsea had obvious problems last season and seemed to be running out of steam. With Modric making his position clear that he wants to stay in London and join them; I can see them returning to their best again. They just needed to freshen up their team with more youth and proven quality. Unlucky for Glaston, he must be getting ready to top himself by now. So the least we can hope for is Spurs to take Abramovich to the cleaners.

For our sakes I hope we haven't pinned all our hopes on Modric. We better make moves on other top midfield targets while we can.
 
WireRed said:
You do know that for some player's, Manchester United isn't the be all and end all or the pinnacle? Just because he's indicated that he'd like to remain in London, doesn't mean we aren't/weren't interested. If he and his family are settled there and don't want to uproot, who the feck are we to question that and whether it's a smokescreen or not? Manchester might be a couple of hours train ride away but moving house, moving his kids schools, settling into a new area etc make it much more complex than a simple 2 hour journey aprt from London.

My take is that ourselves and City were interested in him but his preference not to uproot up here means we'll not pursue the matter further, which United and City's silence in the transfer situation with him would seem to back up.
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Erm.... he says and I quote:

They [Chelsea] are the only one who sent an offer and they are at the moment my first choice."
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so what are you babbling on about :confused:
 
feck off Chelsea. Christ on a bicycle, you know they won't drop Frank and they already are up to their tits with midfielders.
 
Raven Blade said:
I tried to stay away from this thread until some credible rumours started coming though.

But this.. is very bad news. Chelsea had obvious problems last season and seemed to be running out of steam. With Modric making his position clear that he wants to stay in London and join them; I can see them returning to their best again. Glaston must be getting ready to top himself by now. The least we can hope for is Spurs to take Abramovich to he cleaners.

I hope we haven't pinned our hopes on him. We better make moves on other top midfield targets while we can.
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Big deal Chelsea get Modric we will strengthen as well.
 
Sharky7 said:
2 hours? I seriously doubt it lessens anything.

What is lessening our chances is us not making any offer whatsoever for him, although this does keep my hopes up that we have bigger fish to fry.
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Come on Sharky7, you've got to admit that if quotes like that were really made... It does make him Chelsea bound no matter you look at it...

We might have had a 50-50 chance if we did go for a bidding war against Chelsea, but once he's opted for London it does make us look less attractive in a way...

Also, I would never use Tevez as a prime example as his move was souly because Kia and his agents...
 
Mainoldo said:
Last time i checked Modric has never performed to their level. Hence their fee's
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What's this magical level Torres has performed at then? Because he's been part of a pretty shite Liverpool side for most of his stay in England
 
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