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    YouOnlyLiveTwice said:
    Are you happy now? Wrote in a bit of a rush, couldn't care that much either. I think it's because many pronounce it like there is an R.
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    Sorry mate I wasn't having a go at you specifically. As I said, I see this typo WAY more than seems probable, was just wondering if I was missing something.
     
    Hemil said:
    Wenger said Sanchez is also a doubt.
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    Peharust said:
    Haha, do not need to include that, just want to see the design of the ticket so that I am not beingscammed when trying to buy one online or outside the stadium tonight/tomorrow.
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    :lol: Good thinking mate. I did the same when going up for United v City without aticket the year Ronaldo and Tevez scored....

    pissed the touts off a treat, not trusting them until I'd checked with other fans.

    got in for a mere £15-18 or so over face value in the end.

    Looking back now, it was ridiculous to go up for that game without a ticket :rolleyes:
     
    Dylan94 said:
    Oh and this is not a game for Fellaini. No way. He is good against some teams with big physical players, that's why he did well against Chelsea and City. But Arsenal are not one of those teams. He'll get sent off if he plays on Saturday against all the diving midget cheats that Arsenal have got because their at home and the referee's are biased anyway when it comes to big guys on small guys. Even with all our injuries I really don't think he should play. This is not a game for him.
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    no one dives on our team mate to that extent , you watch us? you'll be allowed to get away with the physicality unless its way overboard. no one really ever gets sent off against us. I dont think you'll have issues with fellaini getting sent off unless he does something really really dumb.
     
    Predicted lineup:


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    Subs:
     
    I think it'll be a similar approach to City/Chelsea with Herrera for Fellaini. The only reason to start Fellaini is to exploit set pieces, which isn't a big enough reason for me. The other decision is Januzaj or Young.

    I also think Rafael might make a surprise start.
     
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    So who's on the injury list for you lot?

    Blind, Falcao and pretty much every defender? But Carrick is back?

    Thats a tough one. Reckon a draw.
     
    LFC-Fans said:
    So who's on the injury list for you lot?

    Blind, Falcao and pretty much every defender? But Carrick is back?

    Thats a tough one. Reckon a draw.
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    Rafael, Jones, Evans, Rojo, Young, Falcao, Blind and Lingard.

    Shaw is a doubt but he was seen in training.
     
    Pexbo said:
    Predicted lineup:


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    Subs:
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    What is this witchcraft? Not sure I approve...

    Also, I think I preferred the 'diamond with Fellaini in the middle of it' suggestion you made elsewhere. First one I've seen for weeks that actually made anywhere near as much sense as, or more than, the straightforward Carrick-Herrera-Di Maria-Mata diamond.

    -RVP hasn't really done enough to earn his spot - better to just push Rooney high up the pitch where he's played so well for England.
    -Also, as you said, it keeps Mata nice and high up the pitch and close to the striker, where he is actually dangerous rather than just a very technically-gifted water-carrier.
    -Lets us put the trio of Herrera, Fellaini and Di Maria in midfield to run the legs off anything Arsenal can put out, and still have room for Carrick to shield what is no doubt going to be a shaky back line.
    -It also keeps Fellaini free from the responsibility of being an actual midfielder (in which role he is, let's face it, only a 4/10) and lets him focus on 1. Disrupting Arsenal's rhythm (7/10), 2. Shoring up our aerial defending from set pieces (7/10), 3. Providing an aerial threat for our own set pieces and long balls (9/10) and of course 4. Unsubtly breaking Sanchez' nose with an elbow if he's looking too dangerous (10/10).
    -Lastly, having Fellaini in that free role makes the formation very easily customisable during the game. Need more width? Sub him off for Januzaj. More goal-threat? Sub him off for RVP or Wilson. More defensive stability? Nope, sorry, everyone who can do that is crocked. The point stands, though.

    For the benefit of anyone who didn't see Pex's formation which I'm referring to, it looked something like this:

    DDG
    Valencia Smalling Blackett Shaw
    Carrick
    Herrera Fellaini Di Maria
    Mata
    Rooney​
     
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    Sanchez only reported back to Arsenal on Friday morning apparently.

    We would be livid if that was one of our boys. And he played 85 & 90 mins in S. America
     
    Brightonian said:
    What is this witchcraft? Not sure I approve...

    Also, I think I preferred the 'diamond with Fellaini in the middle of it' suggestion you made elsewhere. First one I've seen for weeks that actually made anywhere near as much sense as, or more than, the straightforward Carrick-Herrera-Di Maria-Mata diamond.

    -RVP hasn't really done enough to earn his spot - better to just push Rooney high up the pitch where he's played so well for England.
    -Also, as you said, it keeps Mata nice and high up the pitch and close to the striker, where he is actually dangerous rather than just a very technically-gifted water-carrier.
    -Lets us put the trio of Herrera, Fellaini and Di Maria in midfield to run the legs off anything Arsenal can put out, and still have room for Carrick to shield what is no doubt going to be a shaky back line.
    -It also keeps Fellaini free from the responsibility of being an actual midfielder (in which role he is, let's face it, only a 4/10) and lets him focus on 1. Disrupting Arsenal's rhythm (7/10), 2. Shoring up our aerial defending from set pieces (7/10), 3. Providing an aerial threat for our own set pieces and long balls (9/10) and of course 4. Unsubtly breaking Sanchez' nose with an elbow if he's looking too dangerous (10/10).
    -Lastly, having Fellaini in that free role makes the formation very easily customisable during the game. Need more width? Sub him off for Januzaj. More goal-threat? Sub him off for RVP or Wilson. More defensive stability? Nope, sorry, everyone who can do that is crocked. The point stands, though.

    For the benefit of anyone who didn't see the formation which I'm referring to, it looked something like this:

    DDG
    Valencia Smalling Blackett Shaw
    Carrick
    Herrera Fellaini Di Maria
    Mata
    Rooney​
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    Great post and good line up. We all know RvP is undroppable though.
     
    Brightonian said:
    What is this witchcraft? Not sure I approve...

    Also, I think I preferred the 'diamond with Fellaini in the middle of it' suggestion you made elsewhere. First one I've seen for weeks that actually made anywhere near as much sense as, or more than, the straightforward Carrick-Herrera-Di Maria-Mata diamond.

    -RVP hasn't really done enough to earn his spot - better to just push Rooney high up the pitch where he's played so well for England.
    -Also, as you said, it keeps Mata nice and high up the pitch and close to the striker, where he is actually dangerous rather than just a very technically-gifted water-carrier.
    -Lets us put the trio of Herrera, Fellaini and Di Maria in midfield to run the legs off anything Arsenal can put out, and still have room for Carrick to shield what is no doubt going to be a shaky back line.
    -It also keeps Fellaini free from the responsibility of being an actual midfielder (in which role he is, let's face it, only a 4/10) and lets him focus on 1. Disrupting Arsenal's rhythm (7/10), 2. Shoring up our aerial defending from set pieces (7/10), 3. Providing an aerial threat for our own set pieces and long balls (9/10) and of course 4. Unsubtly breaking Sanchez' nose with an elbow if he's looking too dangerous (10/10).
    -Lastly, having Fellaini in that free role makes the formation very easily customisable during the game. Need more width? Sub him off for Januzaj. More goal-threat? Sub him off for RVP or Wilson. More defensive stability? Nope, sorry, everyone who can do that is crocked. The point stands, though.

    For the benefit of anyone who didn't see Pex's formation which I'm referring to, it looked something like this:

    DDG
    Valencia Smalling Blackett Shaw
    Carrick
    Herrera Fellaini Di Maria
    Mata
    Rooney​
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    Interesting post and an interesting formation but I think it lacks the ability to counter attack quickly which is always crucial against Arsenal. I would go 4-2-3-1 with Carrick and Fellaini sitting, the 3 would be Di Maria right, Herrera #10 and Rooney left with RVP up front. They played a similar system with 10 men vs City away just without a number 10.
     
    Van Persie will start and score tonight. Hard to keep him on the bench for such an important game when Mata himself hasn't pulled any tress so far this season.

    That formation is nothing but a fancy 4231 with Herrera on the right. Just because it is adorned with
    900 words, it doesn't make it special.
     
    We could really use a performance at this stage. I know LVG has been under almost no pressure to date, but this is a fixture we almost always do well in, under Fergie and Moyes. LVG is supposedly known for his 'one-off match' tactics - well he's had weeks to prepare. Injuries are a problem, but there's still a ton of talent available. So sort it out and win.
     
    Even with Moyes in charge last season, we still beat them at home and drew them away. We really should be beating this lot, never mind drawing. I'll seriously start to doubt Van Gaal if we lose this.
     
    DDG
    Valencia Smalling Blackett Shaw
    Carrick
    Fellaini
    Januzaj Rooney Di Maria
    RVP
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    Quite a lethal team this. Rooney acting as a 3rd midfielder in defence and then as the catalyst between midfield and attack when going forward. He can also alternate with Januzaj/Di Maria to utilize their effectiveness cutting inside. RVP to raise his game against Arsenal. Shaw to be phenomenal as usual and a midfield of Carrick, Fellaini and Rooney will kill any arsenal rhythm and will be very dominant. Herrara/Mata can come on as win-win subs. If we're ahead, then great, they'll keep the ball for days, and if we're behind, great, they'll provide a killer ball somehow for Di Maria/Wazza/RVP. As for the defence... Let's just hope we score more than them.
     
    Mata and Herrera need to start this, assuming Herrera is fit.
     
    I am growing confident as the game approaches.

    Is

    Chambers Mertesacker Monreal Gibbs

    better than any four we put out? That Swansea winger made Chambers miserable. Angel and Adnan can't do much worse.

    Arteta is slow and useless. Flamini is a red card waiting to happen. Ramsey is back to old Ramsey. Welbeck is Welbeck.

    feck these fancy cnuts. We are going to beat them.

    Arsenal 2 - United 4.
     
    Brightonian said:
    Why do so many people misspell (and subsequently mispronounce) his name all the time? It's not an especially weird one. Is there some kind of running joke that I've missed?
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    It doesn't get me as bad as 'Felipe Luis'.
     
    I think we'll stick with the wonky 4-3-3 we've been using.

    De Gea

    Valencia
    Smalling
    McNair
    Blackett

    Carrick
    Fellaini
    Rooney

    Mata
    RvP
    Di Maria
     
    I think whichever team we put out has to target their fullbacks. Chambers could be a weak link at RB and I don't see him getting too much support from the RW. And Monreal at CB could be another name that stands out like a sore thumb.
     
    WR10 said:
    DDG
    Valencia Smalling Blackett Shaw
    Carrick
    Fellaini
    Januzaj Rooney Di Maria
    RVP
    ​
    Quite a lethal team this. Rooney acting as a 3rd midfielder in defence and then as the catalyst between midfield and attack when going forward. He can also alternate with Januzaj/Di Maria to utilize their effectiveness cutting inside. RVP to raise his game against Arsenal. Shaw to be phenomenal as usual and a midfield of Carrick, Fellaini and Rooney will kill any arsenal rhythm and will be very dominant. Herrara/Mata can come on as win-win subs. If we're ahead, then great, they'll keep the ball for days, and if we're behind, great, they'll provide a killer ball somehow for Di Maria/Wazza/RVP. As for the defence... Let's just hope we score more than them.
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    I know it won't happen but I would rather have Herrera in for Van Persie with Rooney going up top and Mata in for Januzaj. Ideally you'd want Januzaj but he is not been in form and Mata, if played on the right side of a trio of him Herrera and Di Maria behind Rooney, can be trusted to come out with a goal or two. Van Persie needs a long spell on the bench inorder for him to possibly regain that hunger plus we can't afford to carry him when we are this wounded.
     
    Brightonian said:
    What is this witchcraft? Not sure I approve...

    Also, I think I preferred the 'diamond with Fellaini in the middle of it' suggestion you made elsewhere. First one I've seen for weeks that actually made anywhere near as much sense as, or more than, the straightforward Carrick-Herrera-Di Maria-Mata diamond.

    -RVP hasn't really done enough to earn his spot - better to just push Rooney high up the pitch where he's played so well for England.
    -Also, as you said, it keeps Mata nice and high up the pitch and close to the striker, where he is actually dangerous rather than just a very technically-gifted water-carrier.
    -Lets us put the trio of Herrera, Fellaini and Di Maria in midfield to run the legs off anything Arsenal can put out, and still have room for Carrick to shield what is no doubt going to be a shaky back line.
    -It also keeps Fellaini free from the responsibility of being an actual midfielder (in which role he is, let's face it, only a 4/10) and lets him focus on 1. Disrupting Arsenal's rhythm (7/10), 2. Shoring up our aerial defending from set pieces (7/10), 3. Providing an aerial threat for our own set pieces and long balls (9/10) and of course 4. Unsubtly breaking Sanchez' nose with an elbow if he's looking too dangerous (10/10).
    -Lastly, having Fellaini in that free role makes the formation very easily customisable during the game. Need more width? Sub him off for Januzaj. More goal-threat? Sub him off for RVP or Wilson. More defensive stability? Nope, sorry, everyone who can do that is crocked. The point stands, though.

    For the benefit of anyone who didn't see Pex's formation which I'm referring to, it looked something like this:

    DDG
    Valencia Smalling Blackett Shaw
    Carrick
    Herrera Fellaini Di Maria
    Mata
    Rooney​
    Click to expand...
    Great post but it's never going to happen because Van Persie is immune to the bench.
     
    I like that formation, and I wouldn't even mind if Rooney played in the hole with RvP up top. I think this could be a great chance for RvP to get some confidence - he'll want to do well against Arsenal, plus his movement should be too much for Monreal, who isn't really suited to such a disciplined role.
     
    Been studying for Exams so I have missed a heap of news. So sorry if its has been answered.

    Has DDG recovered?
    Is Falcao a chance to play?
    Also how far away are the rest of our injuries?
    And what is the chances of Welbz and Sanchez lining up?

    Sorry about all the questions.
     
    I fecking miss Herrera on the pitch

    Think the game will end 2-2, Fellaini with a header, Rooney with a freekick.

    Oh, and I have a feeling Welbeck will score
     
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