2016 US Presidential Elections | Trump Wins
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Why? There are plenty of conservatives who aren't nutters.
"Trump isn't a conservative by any Republican measure"
Because this context is strictly within the Republican primaries - not outside the GOP and certainly not outside the USA.
We're talking specifically about conservatives within the GOP as defined by the 3 pillars of conservatism (social, fiscal, and defense).
No, you are. If Trump himself says he's a conservative then maybe that's a clue.
Trumps absolute pro business stance is about as conservative Republican as you can get. Climate change is a hoax. Immigration? Very pro Israel, kill Obama care . . . What are you even talking about? This is crazy. It´s not even debatable
"Trump isn't a conservative by any Republican measure"
He's not because he doesn't actually have any conviction behind the things he says. He's saying them just for attention. See Carson, Cruz, Huckabee, Santorum et al. They are Republican conservatives. Trump is a self-aggrandizing opportunist and anyone who believes anything he says is extremely gullible.
All that means is that those who believe what he says are comparably as naive and gullible as anyone who believed Mitt Romney, when he said he was "severely conservative" in 2012.
And no one else is forcing you to, but Americans will consider him a hero, that is the nature of nationalism and patriotism and the nature of most people who will accept not question the dominant narrative.
He's not because he doesn't actually have any conviction behind the things he says. He's saying them just for attention. See Carson, Cruz, Huckabee, Santorum et al. They are Republican conservatives. Trump is a self-aggrandizing opportunist and anyone who believes anything he says is extremely gullible.
Oh well that photo changes everything. Great reasoning.
Don't believe anything he says. Its all a show.
It illustrates that he's a complete opportunist who has not only given money to the Clintons, but also spent considerable effort courting them. How's that for conservative.
How do you know Trump doesn´t have any conviction on what he says????
This is turning into a farce
It illustrates that he's a complete opportunist who has not only given money to the Clintons, but also spent considerable effort courting them. How's that for conservative.
You've never heard of a republican donating to a democrat candidate?
It illustrates that he's a complete opportunist who has not only given money to the Clintons, but also spent considerable effort courting them. How's that for conservative.
So should we ignore his stance on big business, taxes, abortion, the environment etc?
According to you, we should disregard his coziness with the Clintons cause he has no convictions
Because he's not serious about running for President, just as he wasn't last time. The fact that you are gullible enough to believe him at his word illustrates extreme naivety.
Yes, lets get back to politics instead of redefining heroism and discussing Trump's fake political views.
Its all made up. Once he leaves the race in a few weeks/months it will all be forgotten.
So you are definitely the authority on Trump, I take it. The convictionless man
Certainly not by many conservatives. History 101 tells us that real conservatives loathe the Clintons and do anything and everything to bring them down, as opposed to yuck it up with them at parties and contribute to their campaigns.
Utter nonsense. They have always got loads of corporate money.
History 101 teaches that Republican are for family values . . . until they get caught
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Corporate money has nothing to do with political conservatism. There are many wealthy powerful Democrats.
Yes, that´s why the supreme court voted on strict political lines about corporate money in politics.
You don´t see a difference between dems and repubs on money in politics? Really?
"Corporations are people, my friend" Who said that, dem or repub?
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Trump does strike me as someone with very few nailed down principles. In his world, that's a benefit.
They vote along political lines on a range of issues and has nothing to do with what i was talking about.
My point was Democrats get big money much like Republicans do.
Case in point - http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/04/20/obama.goldman.donations/
Yes, when they vote along political lines it means something very significant, being that it is a political divide on philosophy, especially on citizens united.
You're not saying anything new here.
I know. We also all know how the supreme court was philosophically divided along political line on citizens united. Which says political conservative Repubs for corporate money of citizens united, and liberal dems against. A generality of course, but in general it is a political philosophical division negating what you say about corporate money having nothing to do with political conservatism
Republican money is given to dems when they think it will benefit them.
More aptly, money is given to politicians when they think it will benefit the donors.
That is what I meant.
Gawn Trump - throw the cat amongst the pigeons! 
I know it's super unlikely he'll be GOP nominee let alone POTUS but, like Corbyn (who I totally disagree with btw), kudos for them to stick their necks out and give it a shot and speak with their personal convictions. Same story for both IMO
I know it's super unlikely he'll be GOP nominee let alone POTUS but, like Corbyn (who I totally disagree with btw), kudos for them to stick their necks out and give it a shot and speak with their personal convictions. Same story for both IMO
Hahaha...Rick Perry's speechwriters went overboard with some big words for Ricky to fling at Donald.
Article on how Roger Ailes and Fox News is rebeling against Murdoch over The Donald. This could only have a tragicomic ending, hopefully for the Republican clown party. Poetic justice.
http://www.salon.com/2015/07/22/rup...he_cant_control_the_monster_fox_news_created/
Rupert Murdoch´s Donald Trump Nightmare: He Can´t Control The Monster Fox News Created
If there seems to be a split in the way Rupert Murdoch-owned media outlets are covering the presidential campaign of Donald Trump that’s because one of Murdoch’s holdings is reportedly out of control — Murdoch can’t get Fox News to stop positively covering The Donald.
According to New York Magazine’s Gabriel Sherman, the conservative media mogul has been unsuccessful in his attempt to wield influence over the editorial decisions of Fox News CEO Roger Ailes. Sherman reports that Ailes has pushed Fox’s on-air personalities to defend Trump’s controversial comments in recent weeks, boasting that the conservative network was covering the Trump campaign to his personal specifications. For his part, Murdoch appears to be dead set against a Trump candidacy, publicly blasting the Republican’s incendiary rhetoric:
Trump, who has a longstanding relationship with Fox News, met with Ailes for an extended lunch around the time of his announcement and has called the cable news executive “one of the great geniuses in television history.” During the month of June, Trump appeared on Fox 10 times, amounting to 1 hour and 48 minutes of free airtime from the network and it’s become evident that there is little Murdoch can do to stop it. According to Sherman, Murdoch, whose 21st Century Fox is the parent company of Fox News, recently called Ailes to ask him to “back off the Trump coverage.” Trump was back on “Fox & Friends“, a show where he held weekly appearances before entering the presidential race, this morning to push-back against all of the negative scrutiny his stunt giving out Lindsey Graham’s personal cell number generated. Per usual, the host provided Trump his softball interview. And as Sherman points out, “yesterday, at a campaign event in South Carolina where he gave out Lindsey Graham’s personal cell-phone number, Trump heaped praise on Fox & Friends’ Doocy, Brian Kilmeade, and Elisabeth and Hasselbeck, ‘They’re great people.’” Sherman, a veteran Fox News observer, describes “Fox & Friends” as “a show that is used by Ailes to inject his point of view into debates.”
And as the New York Times explains, there is little Murdoch can do to wrangle editorial control over the network from Ailes: “As the creator of the highest-rated cable news channel in the country (even surpassing ESPN in total viewers on some nights) and one of the most profitable assets in Mr. Murdoch’s film and television company, 21st Century Fox, Mr. Ailes has been given the freedom to operate largely outside the purview of Mr. Murdoch.”
So, for now, Murdoch’s control is relegated to the front page of the NY Post, the editorial page of the Wall Street Journal and his personal Twitter account. But the head of one of the most powerful media conglomerates in the world can’t stop his biggest media asset from acting as Trump’s biggest booster, as the carnival barker marches his campaign to the first Republican debate stage — on Fox News.
http://www.salon.com/2015/07/22/rup...he_cant_control_the_monster_fox_news_created/
Rupert Murdoch´s Donald Trump Nightmare: He Can´t Control The Monster Fox News Created
If there seems to be a split in the way Rupert Murdoch-owned media outlets are covering the presidential campaign of Donald Trump that’s because one of Murdoch’s holdings is reportedly out of control — Murdoch can’t get Fox News to stop positively covering The Donald.
According to New York Magazine’s Gabriel Sherman, the conservative media mogul has been unsuccessful in his attempt to wield influence over the editorial decisions of Fox News CEO Roger Ailes. Sherman reports that Ailes has pushed Fox’s on-air personalities to defend Trump’s controversial comments in recent weeks, boasting that the conservative network was covering the Trump campaign to his personal specifications. For his part, Murdoch appears to be dead set against a Trump candidacy, publicly blasting the Republican’s incendiary rhetoric:
Trump, who has a longstanding relationship with Fox News, met with Ailes for an extended lunch around the time of his announcement and has called the cable news executive “one of the great geniuses in television history.” During the month of June, Trump appeared on Fox 10 times, amounting to 1 hour and 48 minutes of free airtime from the network and it’s become evident that there is little Murdoch can do to stop it. According to Sherman, Murdoch, whose 21st Century Fox is the parent company of Fox News, recently called Ailes to ask him to “back off the Trump coverage.” Trump was back on “Fox & Friends“, a show where he held weekly appearances before entering the presidential race, this morning to push-back against all of the negative scrutiny his stunt giving out Lindsey Graham’s personal cell number generated. Per usual, the host provided Trump his softball interview. And as Sherman points out, “yesterday, at a campaign event in South Carolina where he gave out Lindsey Graham’s personal cell-phone number, Trump heaped praise on Fox & Friends’ Doocy, Brian Kilmeade, and Elisabeth and Hasselbeck, ‘They’re great people.’” Sherman, a veteran Fox News observer, describes “Fox & Friends” as “a show that is used by Ailes to inject his point of view into debates.”
And as the New York Times explains, there is little Murdoch can do to wrangle editorial control over the network from Ailes: “As the creator of the highest-rated cable news channel in the country (even surpassing ESPN in total viewers on some nights) and one of the most profitable assets in Mr. Murdoch’s film and television company, 21st Century Fox, Mr. Ailes has been given the freedom to operate largely outside the purview of Mr. Murdoch.”
So, for now, Murdoch’s control is relegated to the front page of the NY Post, the editorial page of the Wall Street Journal and his personal Twitter account. But the head of one of the most powerful media conglomerates in the world can’t stop his biggest media asset from acting as Trump’s biggest booster, as the carnival barker marches his campaign to the first Republican debate stage — on Fox News.
Fox's days are numbered imo. Murdoch is stepping down and his sons who are notoriously suspicious of Ailes will be in charge and probably boot him at some point, which will probably turn Fox into a somewhat normal news channel.
Take a look at a list of Hillary's donors and it won't be all too disimilar to her Republican counterparts. The Partisan divide across both parties is now a myth.
Its not unusual for companies to give money to both sides as a hedge since one of them is going to win.
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