2020 US Elections | Biden certified as President | Dems control Congress

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Raoul said:
Usually not unless they are leaked by a third party, or someone from within the campaign itself.
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Didn't Yang try to force the democratic party to commission more qualifying polls as he will currently miss the next debate

.For Tuesday’s debate at Drake University in Des Moines, candidates must show contributions from 225,000 unique donors and reach 7 percent support in two polls of early states, or 5 percent in at least four polls of early states and national surveys.
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Presume they are trying to say that it's not their fault the DNC did not commission enough qualifying polls... Their data shows they should be on stage ... Guess they are leaking it in order to.push this
 
We all laughed at the dystopia high hopes dance but.............

But Shaffer struggles with Trump’s divisiveness, deeply dislikes his hostility to immigrants and wishes he would get off Twitter. So while he is already mapping out the president’s campaign in Howard county, he has also been checking out the Democratic presidential contenders.

“I’ve toyed with this whole idea of Pete Buttigieg just because I love his positive message. That was what was so endearing about Ronald Reagan. It was always that shining city on the hill. Morning in America. Tomorrow’s a new day, and it’s always gonna be better,” he said of one of the Democratic frontrunners in Iowa. “I went and saw Pete Buttigieg in Decorah. Sounded very moderate, very positive. Hardly even mentioned Trump, which I like. I like to listen to the plans not just the negativity.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...zy-but-will-get-my-vote-us-election-2020-iowa
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Also a Trump 2nd term is more than possible(Whoever the dem nominee is) :nervous:

Mostly she thinks Trump has done what he said he would. Rasmussen mentions a commonly heard observation in Howard county that there are more jobs than workers even though one in 10 of the population lives under the poverty line.

“If you don’t have a job you’re not looking,” she said. “The factories have trouble finding workers … That is one thing I think is a lot better and I think that is one thing President Trump did do right.”

Confidence in the economy has risen sharply during Trump’s three years in office and the president gets a good deal of credit for that even if Democrats say the ground was laid by Obama or question the quality of those jobs. That’s a big plus for him in parts of America where steady work at decent pay can still be found even if few people feel prosperous. For that they are prepared to forgive Trump other sins.
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Obama & Hillary Admin Official CONGRATULATES Bernie Sanders, TRIGGERS Her Anti-Bernie Fans!

 
There is a new documentary by a French investigator Olivier Berruyer about Ukrainegate and Biden. It is very interesting and for sure Trump is going to use it. It seems that no one is clean these days.
 
Fergies Gum said:
Pathetic from the Warren camp. They leak it at a time Bernie is gaining momentum and 24 hours before the debate.
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Bernie has denied it and no comments from the Warren camp. If Biden gets the nomination Trump will be the President.
 
Zarlak said:
He should just turn to her and ask her point blank if it's true or not. I don't think she'd lie, maybe try to 'well not in those words, but you know...' it a little and he can just squash it.
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Behind closed door it isnt unbelieveable bernie said that. Hardly a secret that women is harder to win. You'd think these kinds of things are common behind the screen
 
There are dozens of reports from mutiple sources saying that Bernie urged Warren to run againt Hillary in 2015, and only himself decided to run after she finally said no. There are statements from him dating back more than 30 years about women running for president.
And there is the massively iffy statement from Warren herself. No context, nothing.

And why are people saying it's a setup? I mean, if you don't think it is one, I think you have the brain of a baby. It's 3 weeks before the first caucus. Bernie is surging in almost all polls, including the important DMR one, while Warren's revival is now 4 months in the past. Yesterday Warren herself seized on a factually correct, *deleted message from some Bernie volunteer on Slack*, which ever-helpful media had called a campaign phone script, to complain about her "friend Bernie" attacking her. Today this is leaked. Of course it's a ratfeck.
 
berbatrick said:
There are dozens of reports from mutiple sources saying that Bernie urged Warren to run againt Hillary in 2015, and only himself decided to run after she finally said no. There are statements from him dating back more than 30 years about women running for president.
And there is the massively iffy statement from Warren herself. No context, nothing.

And why are people saying it's a setup? I mean, if you don't think it is one, I think you have the brain of a baby. It's 3 weeks before the first caucus. Bernie is surging in almost all polls, including the important DMR one, while Warren's revival is now 4 months in the past. Yesterday Warren herself seized on a factually correct, *deleted message from some Bernie volunteer on Slack*, which ever-helpful media had called a campaign phone script, to complain about her "friend Bernie" attacking her. Today this is leaked. Of course it's a ratfeck.
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Agreed. Warren and her staff beating around the bush on this one is absolutely disgusting imho. Either he said it or he didn't. Considering all the signs point in the direction that he most likely never would have said that makes it seem like she knows very well but is just allowing herself to ride this wave.
 
Redplane said:
Agreed. Warren and her staff beating around the bush on this one is absolutely disgusting imho. Either he said it or he didn't. Considering all the signs point in the direction that he most likely never would have said that makes it seem like she knows very well but is just allowing herself to ride this wave.
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She said in her statement that he said it.
 
Redplane said:
Even worse then. What I read earlier today made it seem like she or at least her staff was silent on it.
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Why is it worse if she literally confirmed that the story is true. If anything it vindicates the original reporting.
 
Raoul said:
Why is it worse if she literally confirmed that the story is true. If anything it vindicates the original reporting.
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Even if it's true... The timing seems a desperate attempt to grab some pts back from Bernie. I just find it hard to be believe the DNC isnt going to use Warren as a Hillary v2 - although she seems smarter and more cunning than her. The man has a history of promoting women and this is what is leaked to the press by someone she s supposedly close friends with? It smells a bit.
 
Redplane said:
Even if it's true... The timing seems a desperate attempt to grab some pts back from Bernie. I just find it hard to be believe the DNC isnt going to use Warren as a Hillary v2 - although she seems smarter and more cunning than her. The man has a history of promoting women and this is what is leaked to the press by someone she s supposedly close friends with? It smells a bit.
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How would the DNC select Warren ?
 
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