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Classical revolution !!

Way to go Tunisians :D God bless Tunis !!!!!!

Hope we follow suit.......very soon God's willing


By the way, where the heck are the Western media. They just woke up a couple of days ago probably. May be if Ben Ali was anti-Semite, Tunis got oil or a nuclear program they would have cared earlier ..may be !!
 
Army's in the airport ..news that many of the ruling family have been arrested

Emergency state announced

Ben ali dismissed government and called for free parliamentary elections within 6 months

.. won't matter though. Good bye asshole...23 years too late
 
..and that's how it all started a month ago :

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That's pretty spiffy. It has been covered by western media to some extent though with the Arizona shooting, pretty much everything else has been put on the backburner.

From the Wikipedia page on Tunisia:


Today Tunisia has an authoritarian regime. It is an export-oriented country, in the process of liberalizing and privatizing its economy but has rife corruption benefiting the president's family. The country operates as a nominal republic under the leadership of President Zine El Abidine Ben Ali who has governed since 1987. The Tunisian economy has averaged 5% GDP growth since the early 1990s.[7] A popular revolution is currently underway.
 
Don't forget that the guy who burned himself was a college graduate street vendor who was angry at being told his stall was illegal. It's interesting to see what kicked this all off.
 
Tunisia is more repressive than I thought it was, the rest of North Africa must be petrified.
 
Frosty said:
Surely Egypt cannot be too far behind? How old is Mubarak? 82?
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yes 80 feckin' 2 +

It's not. i am sure we will change god's willing in 2011. it's a matter of months hopefully. We have been in a continuous stage of protesting and clashes over the past 3 yrs and even further back

This is also a lesson to all. People used to say the region will wake up when Egypt wakes up..not anymore and that's good so that we stop our chauvinistic attitude. The ray of hope came from the least expected country

May be it started in Tunisia because they have a higher percentage of educated people plus they were more oppressed at least as regards freedom of speech. For example, the internet was censured in Tunisia, it's not in Egypt. Won't matter though. Mubarak soon will run out of safety valves. The only valve the country needs now is democracy and freedom.
 
Members of Trabulsi's family arrested before fleeing the country

That's the first lady's family
 
BREAKING NEWS ON ALARABIYA : ben Ali ousted, President of the Parliament will be announced president temporarily


GET THE feck IN.
 
So who is controlling the military right now? Have they pledged themselves to Parliament or are they hedging their bets, following populist sentiment?
 
Ben ali left the country.. feckin' helll. The first total civil revolution in the history of the Arab world probably
 
The interesting thing is that there was no leader for this revolution..no one.not a single name..it was a total spontaneous revolution
 
I said on here only a few weeks ago that the potential for revolution in the Arab world was massive, but I didn't expect anything like this to happen at this stage. It'll be interesting to see where this goes.
 
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yes 80 feckin' 2 +

It's not. i am sure we will change god's willing in 2011. it's a matter of months hopefully. We have been in a continuous stage of protesting and clashes over the past 3 yrs and even further back

This is also a lesson to all. People used to say the region will wake up when Egypt wakes up..not anymore and that's good so that we stop our chauvinistic attitude. The ray of hope came from the least expected country

May be it started in Tunisia because they have a higher percentage of educated people plus they were more oppressed at least as regards freedom of speech. For example, the internet was censured in Tunisia, it's not in Egypt. Won't matter though. Mubarak soon will run out of safety valves. The only valve the country needs now is democracy and freedom.
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Thing is though, what will there be if Mubarak is ousted/dies/retires?

Who will take power? I can see Israel and the US shifting nervously at the thought of the Muslim Brotherhood taking power democratically.

Any thoughts? I freely admit total ignorance of Egyptian politics, so correct me on any mistakes.
 
Frosty said:
Thing is though, what will there be if Mubarak is ousted/dies/retires?

Who will take power? I can see Israel and the US shifting nervously at the thought of the Muslim Brotherhood taking power democratically.

Any thoughts? I freely admit total ignorance of Egyptian politics, so correct me on any mistakes.
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That's the scarecrow Arab dictators use to scare the world of democracy here. If democracy reaches Egypt, give it a few months before parliamentary elections and I can tell you that all political leaders and analysts here believe that MB can get the majority but not the over all majority, they won't reach 50% and they actually believe their share of the vote will be around 33%

Also Egypt will remain a republic and the president won't be from the MB. All Egyptians here believe we need a transitional period and to "appoint" a leader for this period before the first presidential elections. This leader would be from a long list of respectable men here, none of them is MB or what you call "Islamist"

In the future, the MB share will go down because actually almost all political forces in Egypt are against their ideology. More importantly.many Egyptians who are religious and conservative are not pro-MB at all and see them as opportunists; I am one of those.

Believe me. Risk democracy and giving venue for the MB than keep the status quo which is doing nothing but breeding extremism and hate of the other
 
So what are the Tunisia military doing then?
 
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That's the scarecrow Arab dictators use to scare the world of democracy here. If democracy reaches Egypt, give it a few months before parliamentary elections and I can tell you that all political leaders and analysts here believe that MB can get the majority but not the over all majority, they won't reach 50% and they actually believe their share of the vote will be around 33%

Also Egypt will remain a republic and the president won't be from the MB. All Egyptians here believe we need a transitional period and to "appoint" a leader for this period before the first presidential elections. This leader would be from a long list of respectable men here, none of them is MB or what you call "Islamist"

In the future, the MB share will go down because actually almost all political forces in Egypt are against their ideology. More importantly.many Egyptians who are religious and conservative are not pro-MB at all and see them as opportunists; I am one of those.

Believe me. Risk democracy and giving venue for the MB than keep the status quo which is doing nothing but breeding extremism and hate of the other
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I had a feeling that this would be the reality. I truly hope you are right - the same shift happened in Asia in the 60's and 70's, hopefully now it is North Africa's turn.
 
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Ben ali left the country.. feckin' helll. The first total civil revolution in the history of the Arab world probably
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actually in Sudan we had a civil revolution in 1985 that overthrew Numeiri after 16 years of tyranny....i hope what happened will start a chain of events that will bring it all back..

viva tunisie
 
Good bye tourism industry for a while. And if people think Egypt will follow suit that will take a hit too
 
Why goodbye??



Anyway, news now that it's the PM who take role as president. This is a trick by Ben Ali and evne if not, the PM is one of his closest men. Tunisians are calling for continuation of protests tomorrow; they won't be tricked .
 
It's all a trick...he put his stooge in control as he fled. They've got momentum, they need to ensure they extract as many concrete pledges as possible now, elections at all levels, and deadlines.
 
Every Arab ruler is watching Tunisia in fear. Every Arab citizen is watching Tunisia in hope and solidarity
 
Randall Flagg said:
Good bye tourism industry for a while. And if people think Egypt will follow suit that will take a hit too
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Considering how up and down Thailand has been in the last five years their tourist industry has gotten by.
 
Already calls for massive protests next 25th Jan. in Egypt. 25th Jan. is "Police day" in Egypt and after several horrible torture to death cases throughout the years and especially in 2010, it would be the best response.

Still in the cyber world though, didn't materialize yet
 
Randall Flagg said:
Good bye tourism industry for a while. And if people think Egypt will follow suit that will take a hit too
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If that's the price then so be it. In fact, I know Tunisians in exile who are now planning to go home..puts things in perspective
 
After weeks of silence, CNN talked about the situation and the main focuse of the convo. was the fear of Islamists gaining power in Tunisia!!!! feckin' hell, people are obsessed with that notion.
 
All this has brought a huge smile to my face, well done the people of Tunisia :D

Mubarak must be quaking in his boots now, here's hoping this revolution ripples on throughout the Arab world bringing down the tyrants and puppets regime by regime.
 
peterstorey said:
About 50 years. What's your point?
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There is a difference between the impact upon tourism in Cuba in 2011 following a revolution in 1959, and the impact upon tourism in Tunisia in 2011 following a revolution in 2011.
 
This is fecking typical, me & the Mrs were thinking about going on holiday to Tunisia this summer as we haven't had a proper holiday for a couple of years and its relatively cheap with good food & weather and now this!

Its all very well, but lets hope that the government is not replaced by a repressive pro-ultra religious regime.
 
Colin129 said:
This is fecking typical, me & the Mrs were thinking about going on holiday to Tunisia this summer as we haven't had a proper holiday for a couple of years and its relatively cheap with good food & weather and now this!

Its all very well, but lets hope that the government is not replaced by a repressive pro-ultra religious regime.
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Because the current regime has been so good to the people :wenger:
 
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