Would it be fair to say that your support of Hamas is just as "surprising".
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Would it be fair to say that your support of Hamas is just as "surprising".
I dont support hamas as a group, they're no better than these terrorists. I do support the palestinian people.
If assad leaves you'll get another afghanistan. Under assad syria was a secular state.
I'm sure the anti Assad folk here would say they are not pro-AQ but support the Syrian people. I'd even argue that the distinction between the fundamentalist mob and the "people" is much clearer in Syria.
Egypt court bans all Muslim Brotherhood activities
Court bans Muslim Brotherhood from carrying out any activities in Egypt, orders seizure of group's funds, widening campaign to debilitate Morsi's Islamist movement
An Egyptian court has banned the Muslim Brotherhood group and ordered its assets confiscated in a dramatic escalation of a crackdown by the military-backed government against supporters of the ousted Islamist president Mohamed Morsi.
Egypt state TV said the court issued its ruling on Monday.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4432706,00.html
Court bans Muslim Brotherhood from carrying out any activities in Egypt, orders seizure of group's funds, widening campaign to debilitate Morsi's Islamist movement
An Egyptian court has banned the Muslim Brotherhood group and ordered its assets confiscated in a dramatic escalation of a crackdown by the military-backed government against supporters of the ousted Islamist president Mohamed Morsi.
Egypt state TV said the court issued its ruling on Monday.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4432706,00.html
Next on the Crazy Middle East show: Egypt banning the Hamas, invading Gaza and turning it into Sharm el Sheik.
I think you have already missed parts of the show...
http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/1.547185
Egyptian army destroyed 152 smuggling tunnels to Gaza since July
A spokesman said that the Egyptian army has clamped down on tunnels on the Egypt-Gaza border following Hamas' support for Sinai jihadists.
The Egyptian army has destroyed 152 tunnels on the Egypt-Gaza border since the end of July, an army spokesman said Sunday.
Ahmed Ali, the spokesman, said the Egyptian army demolished buildings constituting a security threat up to a kilometer from the border. He added that Gaza-based groups were carrying out operations together with armed Islamists in the Sinai Peninsula.
Ali said the demolitions have not established a buffer zone that Hamas fears Egypt is creating along the border to further isolate Gaza, whose economy is propped up by smuggling through tunnels to Sinai. He was speaking during a news conference in Cairo to present the army’s progress since it stepped up operations against Islamist militants in Sinai last week.
The army seized weapons including anti-aircraft missiles, he said. Motorized paragliders had also been found, which he said showed an effort to develop new methods of attack.
Ali said the army was “dealing” with any building between 500 meters and one kilometer from the Gaza border that is considered a possible security threat. He said houses concealing tunnels used for weapons smuggling were a threat to Egypt’s national security.
Ali did not state the number of armed activists killed in the Sinai operation but said that 309 were arrested, adding that 100 Egyptian soldiers were killed and 140 wounded since the toppling of Mohammed Morsi's government.
Wave of deadly attacks in Egypt kills 9
Drive-by shooting kills six Egyptian soldiers east of Cairo shortly after massive car bombing hit security HQ in South Sinai killing at least three people
A drive-by shooting killed six Egyptian soldiers east of Cairo on Monday, shortly after a massive car bombing hit the security headquarters in a town near the tourist resorts of southern Sinai, killing at least three people and wounding dozens.
Also Monday, at least two rocket propelled grenades slammed into a compound housing the country's main satellite earth station in a southern Cairo suburb, security officials said.
The attacks came a day after dozens were killed when holiday celebrations marking the start of the 1973 Mideast war turned into deadly clashes across Egypt, though it was not immediately clear if Monday's violence was related.
A radical Muslim Salafi group had threatened in a statement last Friday that it would kill anyone who collaborated with the military's ongoing offensive against militants in northern Sinai, but neither the group -- nor any other radical factions -- claimed responsibility for any of the attacks on Monday.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4437583,00.html
Drive-by shooting kills six Egyptian soldiers east of Cairo shortly after massive car bombing hit security HQ in South Sinai killing at least three people
A drive-by shooting killed six Egyptian soldiers east of Cairo on Monday, shortly after a massive car bombing hit the security headquarters in a town near the tourist resorts of southern Sinai, killing at least three people and wounding dozens.
Also Monday, at least two rocket propelled grenades slammed into a compound housing the country's main satellite earth station in a southern Cairo suburb, security officials said.
The attacks came a day after dozens were killed when holiday celebrations marking the start of the 1973 Mideast war turned into deadly clashes across Egypt, though it was not immediately clear if Monday's violence was related.
A radical Muslim Salafi group had threatened in a statement last Friday that it would kill anyone who collaborated with the military's ongoing offensive against militants in northern Sinai, but neither the group -- nor any other radical factions -- claimed responsibility for any of the attacks on Monday.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4437583,00.html
Muslim Brotherhood demonstration at the University of Cairo happening now.
Tear gas used to disperse the crowd. Minutes later, a group of protesters resurfaced inside the university. Police searching throughout the school for more demonstrators.
Rumors that the Security/Police in Cairo have enlisted the use of thugs to put down the demonstration
LIVE link
http://mubasher-misr.aljazeera.net/livestream
Ongoing demonstration met with tear gas, LIVE
Tear gas used to disperse the crowd. Minutes later, a group of protesters resurfaced inside the university. Police searching throughout the school for more demonstrators.
Rumors that the Security/Police in Cairo have enlisted the use of thugs to put down the demonstration
LIVE link
http://mubasher-misr.aljazeera.net/livestream
Ongoing demonstration met with tear gas, LIVE
there are no more good guys over there. everyone wants to 'impose'
It's unfortunate, but true RD
Maybe somebody will step up and make sense of it all, but it doesn't seem possible in the near future.
Maybe somebody will step up and make sense of it all, but it doesn't seem possible in the near future.
You were a big fan of Al-Baradei, weren't you? How's he doing?
Back to square one then?
In Egypt, many shrug as freedoms disappear
View Photo Gallery — Protests in Egypt: The trial of Egypt’s former Islamist president, Mohamed Morsi, has been postponed until Feb. 1, prompting clashes in Cairo. Officials said bad weather had stopped the ousted leader from being flown to court.
By Abigail Hauslohner, Published: January 8 E-mail the writer
CAIRO — The charges are often vague. The evidence is elusive. Arrests occur swiftly, and the convictions follow. And there is little transparency in what analysts have called the harshest political crackdown in Egypt in decades.
But many Egyptians say they are all right with that.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...4e9a9c-778a-11e3-a647-a19deaf575b3_story.html
In Egypt, many shrug as freedoms disappear
View Photo Gallery — Protests in Egypt: The trial of Egypt’s former Islamist president, Mohamed Morsi, has been postponed until Feb. 1, prompting clashes in Cairo. Officials said bad weather had stopped the ousted leader from being flown to court.
By Abigail Hauslohner, Published: January 8 E-mail the writer
CAIRO — The charges are often vague. The evidence is elusive. Arrests occur swiftly, and the convictions follow. And there is little transparency in what analysts have called the harshest political crackdown in Egypt in decades.
But many Egyptians say they are all right with that.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...4e9a9c-778a-11e3-a647-a19deaf575b3_story.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-26217380
I've been in a bus sat waiting on that very stretch of road, waiting to cross the border into Israel. I even remember feeling cautious of the guys stood around staring into the buses but thought I was simply being paranoid!
I've been in a bus sat waiting on that very stretch of road, waiting to cross the border into Israel. I even remember feeling cautious of the guys stood around staring into the buses but thought I was simply being paranoid!
I've met quite a few South Koreans on their tours in Israel, what a friendly bunch they were.
Whatever motivated the scum who felt it's their duty to bomb that bus, I guess it's just beyond any explanation.
Whatever motivated the scum who felt it's their duty to bomb that bus, I guess it's just beyond any explanation.
Judge drops case against Mubarak on protesters' killing
Former Egyptian president was accused of involvement in the killing of hundreds of demonstrators during the 2011 revolt that ended his three-decade rule; Mubarak's sons were cleared of corruption charges.
An Egyptian court decided on Saturday to drop the case against ousted president Hosni Mubarak who was charged with involvement in the killing of hundreds of protesters during the 2011 revolt that ended his three-decade rule.
Former Egyptian interior minister Habib el-Adly and his aides were also acquitted of charges of involvement in the killing of protesters.
Mubarak was also acquitted of charges pertaining to gas export to Israel.
Ahead of the ruling at the retrial, security was beefed up around the court at the sprawling police academy on the outskirts of Cairo, with 5,000 police deployed, the official MENA news agency reported, citing a senior official.
Mubarak, 86, is accused along with seven of his former police commanders of involvement in the killing of hundreds of demonstrators during the 2011 revolt that ended his three-decade rule.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4597436,00.html
Well, well...All things considered that revolution has so far ended in nothing but the deaths of 1000's. Still, could have been much worse if those MB mob were allowed to remain in power.
Former Egyptian president was accused of involvement in the killing of hundreds of demonstrators during the 2011 revolt that ended his three-decade rule; Mubarak's sons were cleared of corruption charges.
An Egyptian court decided on Saturday to drop the case against ousted president Hosni Mubarak who was charged with involvement in the killing of hundreds of protesters during the 2011 revolt that ended his three-decade rule.
Former Egyptian interior minister Habib el-Adly and his aides were also acquitted of charges of involvement in the killing of protesters.
Mubarak was also acquitted of charges pertaining to gas export to Israel.
Ahead of the ruling at the retrial, security was beefed up around the court at the sprawling police academy on the outskirts of Cairo, with 5,000 police deployed, the official MENA news agency reported, citing a senior official.
Mubarak, 86, is accused along with seven of his former police commanders of involvement in the killing of hundreds of demonstrators during the 2011 revolt that ended his three-decade rule.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4597436,00.html
Well, well...All things considered that revolution has so far ended in nothing but the deaths of 1000's. Still, could have been much worse if those MB mob were allowed to remain in power.
And now there's talk of Gamal Mubarak going for the presidency in 2018.
More Islamist squabbling with Ayman al-Zawahiri going at the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood:
Zawahiri compares members of the Muslim Brotherhood to chickens
http://www.longwarjournal.org/archi...members-of-muslim-brotherhood-to-chickens.php
Zawahiri compares members of the Muslim Brotherhood to chickens
http://www.longwarjournal.org/archi...members-of-muslim-brotherhood-to-chickens.php
Bumpworthy
Zawahiri looks like a CGI animation these days.
@2cents
Does anyone actually take Zawahiri serious outside some Madrasas in Pakistan? Is there any indication that he is actively involved in coordinating the different AQ branches and does he have some ideological pull with his messages?
Does anyone actually take Zawahiri serious outside some Madrasas in Pakistan? Is there any indication that he is actively involved in coordinating the different AQ branches and does he have some ideological pull with his messages?
I'd guess he has more influence than it appears, e.g. this series of articles on the Nusra-ISIS split suggests that jihadis who have sworn allegiance to him take that stuff seriously, and it's clear they were waiting for direction from him before deciding on what to do. However the articles also highlight the problems of communication (http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/08/16/present-at-the-creation/). The fact that one of his well-known right-hand men has been prominent in the recent rebranding of Nusra also suggests he still has a direct influence on al Qaeda's overall strategy, and the AQAP leader is also thought to have been close to him. I know nothing about the North African branches.
Also @Stanley Road is right, I'm not sure why I put this in here beyond the Egyptian connection, so many Middle East/jihadi-related threads to choose from.
[Edit]: Brief take here on Zawahiri's speech:
The recent speech by Ayman Dhawahiri in which he fiercely attacked Hasan Al-Banna and he pointed out his subservience to the monarchy before the revolution was quite interesting. It may be signaling some new realignments in the world of Islamist Jihadi organizations and trying to discredit the Muslim Brotherhood which is trying to remerge as a "combatant" organization, through various rebel groups in Syria and under different names.
http://angryarab.blogspot.ie/2016/08/dhawahiris-attacks-on-hasan-al-banna.html
http://angryarab.blogspot.ie/2016/08/dhawahiris-attacks-on-hasan-al-banna.html
Interesting articles. The connection between the MB and groups that engage in active warfare is rather weird. I never fully understood that given Banna´s teaching/history, but thats a different topic. I guess the beauty of rather vague teachings is, that you can get a lot of different interpretations.
These ISIS/alNusra jihadi commanders all viewed too many james bond movies. Bunch of morons. It would be inesting to know where/how Zawahiri lives and who has contact to him. Some local leaders have to hide him, right? Are there any credible runmors that ISI has contact to him?
These ISIS/alNusra jihadi commanders all viewed too many james bond movies. Bunch of morons. It would be inesting to know where/how Zawahiri lives and who has contact to him. Some local leaders have to hide him, right? Are there any credible runmors that ISI has contact to him?
No idea, but it's always been my assumption that they know exactly where he is.