Yes, Tunisians' biggest worry right now is where you're going to spend your spring break.
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Yes, Tunisians' biggest worry right now is where you're going to spend your spring break.
Talk about putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with a wrong answer.
Perhaps you should read the chain of posts of which that is a part and tell me how you came to that conclusion?
We still don't know what your fecking point is?
GDP will be effected by throwing off oppression so better the status quo
Are you that big an idiot, are you really trying to say you cannot see how there is a difference in tourism being affected in a country when a revolution is ongoing as opposed to a country where a revolution took place over fifty years ago?
First things first, the FCO doesn't put countries on travel black lists for revolutions that took place before the median age UK person was born, it does however place a country on a black list when that revolution was today.
The impact of being on such a black list is that it tends to invalidate medical and travel insurance.
Jesus fecking Christ I know you're a fecking wanker but that takes the biscuit.
Somethings are more important then money
You do realise that half-a-dozen people on a daily basis describe how frustrated they get conversing with you right? I've always doubted you ideologically but not in terms of intelligence, but now I cannot fathom what you are thinking, trying to compare events before most people in the world were born and events that are occurring in realtime.
If you are going to cite Cuba as an example of tourism doing well today despite a revolution fifty years ago, you may as well cite tourism in London despite it being bombed by the Germans for five years or for that matter when it burned to the ground in 1666 - they are both just as relevant to present day tourism in Tunisia as the overthrow of Batista is.
Never once have I suggested that it isn't, I haven't even expressed an opinion on Tunisian affairs today - I'm arguing against PeterStorey's baffling line of logic.
Is it surprising though that pete is being purposely obtuse? Not in the least.
Lots of people who talk shit get frustrated by talking to me. Because I tend to point out they're talking.. shit. You're one of the classics. Cuba was supposed to be a US-emargoed destination but yet in 60s it still managed to grow a substantial tourist industry (while achieving a better infant mortality rate that the US). Tunisia will do OK once they get rid of the expropriators.
Okay, lets put it this way - do you believe there is a threat of instability in Cuba on this very day that would cause foreign governments to tell their citizens to stay away because of a revolution most people have never heard of, and do you believe this is exactly the same situation Tunisia is facing, despite their revolution going on right now?
As I said before, the Great Fire of London is just as relevant to the present situation in Tunisia as the Cuban Revolution is, and so is the black death, the ice age, and the presence of dinosaurs - all four have as much chance of deterring visitors to a destination as Fidel arriving in Havana in 1959 does.
And do you get commission everytime you compare US and Cuban infant mortality?
You completely missed Mozza's point about freedom you finance-obsessed twat .
I'm not obsessed about finance as I have reiterated, I am concerned that you are losing it as you are obcessed with trying to claim that tourists, tourist operators and governments have as much confidence in Tunisia right now as they do in Cuba which they don't as Her Majesty's Government advises against all but essential travel to Tunisia. William Hague however has no such concerns about personal safety being compromised in Cuba.
And I find it hilarious how N5's staunchest marxist is trying to lecture to me about freedom.
I imagine this is what would happen to Newsnight if it was produced by Vince McMahon
Rebrand him Team Brain Damaged.
This coming from a person who doesn't like to discuss facts.
We should have a trending thread in the general forum, listing those frustrated with PeterStorey at any given time.
Oh my god! Austin has just stunnered jeremy paxman.
Stone Cold! Stone Cold!
Peter Pumpkinhead came to town
Spreading wisdom and cash around
Fed the starving and housed the poor
Showed the Vatican what gold's for
But he made too many enemies
Of the people who would keep us on our knees
Hooray for Peter Pumpkin
Who'll pray for Peter Pumpkinhead?
Peter Pumpkinhead brought to shame
Governments who would slur his name
Lusts and sex scandals failed outright
Peter merely said, "Any kind of love is all right"
But he made too many enemies
Of the people who would keep us on our knees
Hooray for Peter Pumpkin
Who'll pray for Peter Pumpkinhead?
Peter Pumpkinhead was too good
Had him nailed to a chunk of wood
He died grinning on live TV
Hanging there he looked a lot like you, and an awful lot like me!
But he made too many enemies
Of the people who would keep us on our knees
Hooray for Peter Pumpkin
Who'll pray for Peter Pumpkinhead?
Hooray for Peter Pumpkin
Who'll pray for Peter Pumpkin?
Hooray for Peter Pumpkinhead
Oh my, oh my, don't it make you want to cry, oh
I agree with Brian.
I don't understand Brian's point to be honest. His first response to the tourism topic was:
Implying that it's not guaranteed to be massively affected. Then someone mentions Cuba in passing and he just sees red and goes off on one.
I can't believe we're even talking about holidays but there you go
Implying that it's not guaranteed to be massively affected. Then someone mentions Cuba in passing and he just sees red and goes off on one.
I can't believe we're even talking about holidays but there you go
There's no "Islamist" power in Tunisia as far as I understand
You people should really stop with all that obsession
You people should really stop with all that obsession
I don't understand Brian's point to be honest. His first response to the tourism topic was:
Implying that it's not guaranteed to be massively affected. Then someone mentions Cuba in passing and he just sees red and goes off on one.
I can't believe we're even talking about holidays but there you go
That my dear friend is what you call nuance, I standby my Thailand comment and I believe it - a country's tourism can get by despite political instability. That is not to say it won't get battered around a little, it very much will, and for that matter is.
However, trying to cite the current state of tourism in Cuba whose revolution occurred fifty years ago as a relevant example for the Tunisians, whose present day tourism industry is having to cope with a revolution today, is utterly ridiculous.
It's funny really, the people of Tunisia have just liberated themselves from decades of oppression and the only thing people can say is "what about my holidays?!" or "oh noes Islam!!1"
People need to realise that other countries serve as more than holiday spots for us, believe it or not there are people who actually work, live and sleep in countries such as Thailand, Turkey, The Maldives etc.....Tunisia is no exception.
And Brian I think what Pete was just trying to imply was despite the fact that Cuba is having to endure a crippling embargo and having been ostracised by the the most powerful nation in the world, it still to this day has a very healthy tourism industry. And not only today, it's tourism industry started to pick up not too long after the revolution - as early as the 60s - even the height of America's terrorism in the nation. So in comparison Tunisia would be fine since hopefully they wouldn't have to endure the same complications in the infancy of their regime change.
I also agree with brian
If any then Morocco will be next not Egypt, sorry fellow egyptions but you still way too far form doing this. The egyption people just can't do it right now.
PM no longer in charge, Speaker of Parliament in charge according to Al Jazeera
EDIT: This is inline with the constitution, and elections are meant to be held within 60 days. But all the pundits agree that, this will not happen, because the Speaker is a Ben Ali stooge, and the masses won't accept him to be honest/fair as Interim Leader.
EDIT: This is inline with the constitution, and elections are meant to be held within 60 days. But all the pundits agree that, this will not happen, because the Speaker is a Ben Ali stooge, and the masses won't accept him to be honest/fair as Interim Leader.
Thanks for your divine decision. We don't know what we would have done without you.
So Thomas Cook and Thompsons are going to suffer a bit. Who cares.
I don't understand Brian's point to be honest. His first response to the tourism topic was:
Implying that it's not guaranteed to be massively affected. Then someone mentions Cuba in passing and he just sees red and goes off on one.
I can't believe we're even talking about holidays but there you go
Some people completely miss the point.
My guess would be Algeria, but as the previous poster mentioned, you never know.
No one expected Tunis. In fact, there were no opposition leaders in this revolution,,it just came out of the blue
Absolutely, had you told me a week ago that Tunisia would be in line for a revolution I wouldn't have believed you. Somewhat of an intifada - all very spontaneous.
My money is still on Egypt next though, it's more or less a matter of counting down the days till Mubarak's demise.
Will it affect the holiday industry though? I would love a trip down the Nile....
Let's hope not, I had my scuba kit lined up for the summer in the Red sea.
I don't get the whole Sharm El Sheikh thing... what's so good about being a stuck on resort in the middle of nowhere with a million other tourists? Okay, scuba..fair enough, but I suspect most people who go there aren't into deep sea diving despite the lovely Red Sea location.
Weirdos.
Weirdos.
For feck's sake Red Kaos had to come in and explain it to you in words of one syllable and you still don't get it you dumbcluck.
I said right at the beginning of this thread that tourism will survive, however to say that it won't be affected and to use a fifty year old example as proof of that is ridiculous when the British Government has a travel warning out on Tunisia.
I've never been on holiday to Tunisia, I have no intention of ever going on holiday to Tunisia. Just because I have been arguing that point doesn't mean it is my concern just as I argue certain points about Man United or Arsenal or Sepp Blatter or whatever, it doesn't mean it is my interest.
Your point still doesn't apply - if you had used Thailand as an example where there have been riots, revolutions and insurrections for the last five years it would have been valid. Using Cuba as an example where it has been political stable and personal safety has been confirmed for fifty years isn't valid.
Quite simple really.