Alex Salmond and Independence
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
Indeed, it has to be all or nothing.
Who knows, but just seems too much uncertainty on so many things for this thing to be going ahead tomorrow, and for it to be so final.
Can someone explain what exactly Scotland has that rUK need so badly. Seems to me that they already get special treatment and Westminster are bending over backwards to give them even more. I'm starting to think we should cut them loose to sink....or swim.
Votes.
We're not voting for Salmond. Sure he might end up in charge for a bit, it won't be for long. The SNP will obviously have a huge majority for the immediate years after independence if that's what happens, but eventually it'll even out & other parties will have a say.
I don't like the guy either btw, but you have to doff your hat to what he's done, even if it's a No vote.
Oil, Labour votes & Whiskey. We've also invented pretty much everything that's useful these days too
1) Whisky farms.
2) Haggis farms.
3) Hills. Lots and lots of hills. Everything in the Lake District was imported from Callander.
The uncertainty should make the Scottish people vote no, there would be uproar if Scotland was allowed to go it alone, to then feck up and breeze back into the Union.
I'll never forget the time I first saw a haggis in the wild. Beautiful creatures.
You're certainly not wrong there, there would hell to pay, and rightly so.
You just hope the ones that just don't know, vote no, rather than not voting at all.
*theirs.
I don't see how they can "feck it up". It's not a third world country, Scotland would be similar financially to Ireland. This whole notion that the UK is the be all and end all is media bollocks. The important thing is Scotland staying/joining the EU.
Of course, my apologies.
I felt that the mood needed to be relaxed a little bit and the best way to do that was to be a widearse.
The time for discussion is over anyway, it's too late to change anyone's minds at this point one way or the other. Everyone has already a decided to vote for either the independence goblin or the union goblin.
Of course they could, if the yes vote wins and the United Kingdom is broken up Scotland would automatically find itself outside both the EU and NATO. They would have to reapply to join both, in the mean time they will have no currency unless they make their own which has already been ruled out as it's to expensive. Add to that the fact Scottish re-entry to the EU could be a long and painful process with no guarantee that they will ever be accepted, other countries are dead against letting Scotland retain the privileges they currently have.
Hate whiskey
Love Haggis
Love the hills.
I will be heading to Scotland for a weeks holiday October and again for Christmas...better get my passport ready.
I know what you're thinking, but we genuinely say widearse instead of wisearse in my area. Probably because everyone is so fat.
You'll also need to exchange your Pounds Sterling for Poond Salmies.
Forgot about that. Damn these foreigners!
Haha. You'll need to learn the language as well. Don't worry, it's just English but spoken after you've had your government ordered eight daily pints of Tennents.
haha...talking of language....I remember being in Stranraer and asking a local to recommend a good Chinese takeaway....she said (I thought) Och, you want the Walk In down there....so off we go looking for it with no luck so I asked someone else and they didn't know it but did know a takeaway called the Wok In!
If that confused you then go to Aberdeen and wait until someone says "Furry boots?" to you.
So who is watching this on channel 4?
They've stitched up the Yes campaign by inviting that woman on.
If that confused you then go to Aberdeen and wait until someone says "Furry boots?" to you.
(with the help of Google) To be honest the whole thing is annoying me. Half of the "points" raised are inaccurate and easily countered, but go unanswered.
Eg the bloke talking about wanting to be in control of welfare spending etc - YOU ARE. That is the purpose of the Scottish devolved parliament and why they have free university tuition in Scotland, because that is what the Scottish government chooses to spend money on.
Yeah your right it's all heart and no head(They've already had someone talking about betraying dead WW2 soldiers).
But the issue this show has shown me is how piss poor channel 4 has become, take out the odd descent drama and it a rich man's channel 5.
I have no access to much data and I have no idea which pollsters are more reliable (if you do know, please share) , so just speculating here
The last 4 polls done past couple of days (doesn't include YouGov's) :
Average of 3.75 points in favor of "No"
Average "Undecided" : 8 points , markedly affected by ICM 14%.
If we exclude ICM's , then the average " Undecided" is 6 points ( and 3.75 becomes 3.67, not much difference)
The point is the undecided voters are more of risk averse than being risk takers, so I'm expecting the majority of them will vote "No".
My prediction: 54% will vote No. 46% Yes. +/- 1 percentage point.
source of data: http://www.bbc.com/news/events/scotland-decides/poll-tracker
The last 4 polls done past couple of days (doesn't include YouGov's) :
Average of 3.75 points in favor of "No"
Average "Undecided" : 8 points , markedly affected by ICM 14%.
If we exclude ICM's , then the average " Undecided" is 6 points ( and 3.75 becomes 3.67, not much difference)
The point is the undecided voters are more of risk averse than being risk takers, so I'm expecting the majority of them will vote "No".
My prediction: 54% will vote No. 46% Yes. +/- 1 percentage point.
source of data: http://www.bbc.com/news/events/scotland-decides/poll-tracker
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Yeah the WW2 guy got rightly booed.
It's not very good this, not tackling any actual issues.
Rugby player needs to slow his roll.
He's cracked it! All we need is an app!
I agree completely that politics is pretty much broken across the entire UK. As an Englishman I would absolutely welcome radical political change all across the UK.
Yeah that one was pretty funny.
Closer than that. 51-51.5% No, 48.5-49% Yes.
Can we seriously stop with this implication that it's the Yes side who are the violent, nasty types? fecking hell.
There's a minority of idiots on either side. If it's a small 'yes' victory what you fear is just as likely to happen in some areas.
Welsh whiskey is betterOil, Labour votes & Whiskey. We've also invented pretty much everything that's useful these days too