That's the last time I cheer Andy Murray on at Wimbledon whilst draped in my union flag. I feel utterly betrayed.
Alex Salmond and Independence
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Your missing the point and you can't see it because all your interested in is yes v no.
Half of the country against it whatever happens, sounds great.
I dismissed the idea that Scotland as a nation was divided to the point of violence, which is nonsense. If I had just responded to your one sided tirade by pointing out these incidents were so rare, you'd point to how they were all yes voters and insult them or criticise the movement like you do in everything you've said in this thread. Aye move on.
Wimbledon next season could be awkward. The Scottish cnut can feck off!
I've never actually been to Wimbledon or supported Andy Murray, still I'm sure there are many British Murray fans that'll be annoyed today.
Being one sided and being hyperbolic are not mutually exclusive.
I'm interested in more than that. Was correcting two clear inaccuracies - 1 that this nation had descended into violence and 2 that in the tiny number of cases it is all yes campaigners. This is a falsehood it's nothing to do with yes v no.
not enough?
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Yeah I'm not going to pretend I know the figures - I'm not Alex Salmond - but it's potentially an enormous setback for an independant Scotland. Like, country ruiningly serious.
A lot of people are making light of the sporadic outbursts of violence and intimidation. Because it is quite low level it might seem funny to some, but these are our countrymen we shouldn't be laughing. The fact tempers are getting flared like this suggests, no matter the outcome, ill feeling will last beyond today. It's not the best start for social cohesion within Britain or without.
Polling stations don't shut until 22:00pm. Hopefully things won't get nasty when people have had a chance to go to the pub.
This isn't the general
so I just looked on the international edition of the CNN website.
The only article with a link on the front page about a vote in scotland is this http://edition.cnn.com/2013/07/15/s...equality-muirfield-women/index.html?hpt=hp_c3
seems that the rest of the world see it as pretty insignifigant
The only article with a link on the front page about a vote in scotland is this http://edition.cnn.com/2013/07/15/s...equality-muirfield-women/index.html?hpt=hp_c3
seems that the rest of the world see it as pretty insignifigant
The problem is that I never said there were not acts of violence on both sides. I simply quoted some facts and you dismissed them as nonsense. Now you've moved the goalposts to call something I did not say is nonsense. You're shit at the crystal ball stuff. All I've done in this thread is to try and engage in debate by questioning peoples opinions and post facts from research I've done. You should try it.
It's the headline story on the NYT website.
Being selective with the facts is bias too, just as outright lying is. You were extremely selective you can't deny it so now you are suggesting I denied all acts of violence took place. You act like you weren't being misleading when you clearly were but then still have the cheek to finish with that condescending shit?
What happened to Team Brian? Was he banned?
Nah I had a chat with him on this topic over the past few days
Best of luck at the polls Scots.
Best of luck indeed. Can ye blame us for being a little bit over excited?
No, that's just CNN being shit as usual.
@NewDawnFades, if Scotland does the unthinkable and votes "No", your name will be strangely ironic... 
Do they have exit polls and stuff? Who is winning?
They're not allowed in the UK until polls close.
Apparently the BBC haven't bothered to do one anyway, so even when polls close we'll be none the wiser.
We'll have to do it ourselves. I know three people who voted yes and one who voted no. So yes is ahead by 50 % points.
We'll have to do it ourselves. I know three people who voted yes and one who voted no. So yes is ahead by 50 % points.
They're conducting polls as we speak; they're just not allowed to publish them. Unofficial data suggests that the Yes vote is currently 10-15% ahead, at least according to what I've heard.
Someone(you?) said that before - where's that come from??
I'll be moving down south if it happens. Terrible idea financially.
Big kick in the nuts for the English fans who back him. But i guess he has his own views.
Scaremongerer.
You're probably on the wind up, but do you actually believe that? How is what Murray's said an insult to English people?
(Or the Welsh or the Northern Irish)
Exactly half of the Northern Irish dont give a feck
CMON SCOTLAND DO THE RIGHT THING
According to the Guardian, there's not going to be an exit poll - http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/sep/18/scottish-vote-no-exit-poll-democratic-deficit
We'll have to make do with the Grindr result of No winning by 6 points.
We'll have to make do with the Grindr result of No winning by 6 points.
Half?
I'd imagine very few in Northern Ireland gives a feck what Murray said.
Agreed.