Quite astonishing, and sad.
American Cops Doing What They Do Best
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Quite astonishing, and sad.
Jesus Christ. That's insane
Was expecting one of the execution videos. Seen this before, but yeah, it's still terrible.
I remember the episode.
5% of the world's population yet 25% of the world's prisoners, would that not be considered a police state?
"We, the people …"
Land of the free.....
More black 17 y o s in jail than in college.
1 in 9 black men in jail.
It's depressing.
1 in 9 black men in jail.
It's depressing.
There's hope yet. American cops being trained by the Scottish police force on how to deal with threats without firing a full magazine into everyone they come across.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/u...ting-policy-after-7280880#0SZfxWIvk4CBkCX1.97
http://news.sky.com/story/1633328/scots-police-teach-us-cops-how-to-avoid-gun-use
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/u...ting-policy-after-7280880#0SZfxWIvk4CBkCX1.97
http://news.sky.com/story/1633328/scots-police-teach-us-cops-how-to-avoid-gun-use
I wasn't aware of this one, simply incredible what he does.
That is incredible! He looked so calm and utterly calculated just walking toward the car.
There real kicker in all that is that Andrew didn't die straight away. His girlfriend was tossed from the car, and was laying by Feaster's feet...but he ignored her completely and looked for his shell casing instead.
I think they said it took 11 minutes for him to tell anyone there that he even fired his service weapon.
Plus the fact that they weren't considering any criminal charges until Andrew died in hospital at a later time.
I think they said it took 11 minutes for him to tell anyone there that he even fired his service weapon.
Plus the fact that they weren't considering any criminal charges until Andrew died in hospital at a later time.
It was like he was just shooting a dog. It didn't faze him at all. Surely he knew the dashcam was recording which means he didn't care or knew that he'd get away with it.
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I mean, I fecking detest drunk drivers, but to be executed in cold blood like that, holy feck. The way the body just flops back into the car and the pig just casually walks over D:
Here's the pig ;
How are law enforcement agents allowed to look like that? What gluttonous cnut.
How are law enforcement agents allowed to look like that? What gluttonous cnut.
Northern Ireland Police put out this video, highlighting One of the biggest struggles of the job. Constantly seeing the worst scenes, and the worst in people. You rarely get calls for something positive, and you just hope it isn't as bad as everything that runs through your mind on the way there. People often forget the human aspect of this work, and the effect it can have on you from seeing the things you do.
Possibly difficult to watch, so be warned if you do. It's short, but rather powerful.
Possibly difficult to watch, so be warned if you do. It's short, but rather powerful.
I read that she was trying to kick him, and was resisting arrest. He feared for his life, I guess. Didn't really have any other option.
Vanessa, you OK?
Errr no, not really! Just got body slammed to feck by a dude twice my size.
Errr no, not really! Just got body slammed to feck by a dude twice my size.
It's ok, he's on "paid leave" apparently. Like what the feck is that? Surely he should be suspended without pay before being fired surely?
I work for a school system and some kids are really bad and now with all the media against the police anything they do is wrong.
I think he's entitled to the presumption of innocence until proved otherwise. Desk duty or guarding some corridor would be preferable though.
We don't know the full story, but yeah it looks way OTT. Also just dragging her up and away when she'd just taken a whack to the head wasn't the best move either.
Why is that? She did something wrong for sure and the police officer tried to stop her but them she started to kick and he had to stop it.
and soon or later police will not do anything if called, obvious the girl has no discipline at all at home.
There's ways to restrain a 12 year old that don't involve slamming them on the ground & knocking them unconcious. She's a child, not a lion.
Well for better or worse, the first step is to put the officer on leave and give a chance for any investigations to take their course. As is often the case we have a few seconds of video that may or may not tell the whole story.
Also remember the cops are unionized and therefore part of the contract between the union and the government agency that employs him will be a process for handling these types of situations in terms of what the process is, including giving him, his legal rep, and the union a chance to respond.
I think most of us given any type of work situation where we could be fired would want the ability to give our side of the story before being fired.
Try throwing your kids head into the ground when they throw a tantrum and you'll see what the judge has to say about it.
I completely agree, I was arguing more at the paid leave. Obviously wouldn't want him fired until it was proven after an investigation. I think suspended pay would have been better, then if he is innocent they can repay what he lost. Or as Grinner said, demoted to a desk job or something. Paid leave seems a little cushy is all.
Do you really just try to be as controversial and contrary as possible in every thread? It's a 12 year old girl and as you can clearly see he had he restrained, there was absolutely no need to slam her to the floor in the way he did and in such an aggressive manner. You can tell by how everyone just went quiet and asked if she was ok at how worried they were and the sound of her hitting the floor was pretty intense. She's a child for fecks sake, not a WWE superstar.
Seriously, I think you are just on a massive wind up all the time because it seems you always try to be as controversial as possible. You also do realise it is illegal to hit children don't you?
how you will restrain someone like her?
It obviously looks bad, but we certainly need more than 33 seconds of video to know what went on.
I used to soft slap them which was more than enough to stop any tantrum, which was very rare (my son once and my daughter 2 or 3 times), my mother used a "colher de pau" on me and I'm ok with that... I deserved.
Unless she was about to pull a gun on him, I have a lot of trouble imagining a scenario where that kind of move is remotely necessary. Almost anywhere in the world is something like that tolerated in regards to a 12 year old, unless it would be to prevent serious damage to them or others. In most places, a caretaker would be in serious trouble no matter what the child was doing.
By all reports, that was just a school-fight between her and another girl. You can even tell her friends are concerned, and one states that she hit the ground with her face. Point being, that everyone in that video seems more mature than the cop.
You seem to be acting like I'm defending him or justifying what happened.
The solitary comment I've made is that it looks bad but that it's a very short snippet of events.
Not really, just meant that even though the clip is short, something very extraordinary and unlikely would have to have happened to make it not look terrible.
That said, I'm likely in the vantage point of having read a bit about this case, and by all accounts, nothing really happened other than a "normal" fight between two 6th grade girls.
In the past the teachers and any staff member would stop any fight, I helped in a high school breaking a few fights which with big kids we always needed 2 people so we can grab each kid and move them away from each other (never jump in the middle of a fight
), them we wait until one of them calmed down and was taken to the principal and then later on the other kid and was the end, no cops involved. But today with all the lawsuits we were told if is a fight call the office and the office will call the police, then the police doesn't really know how to stop a child without throwing them to the floor and arrest them.Yea all I've seen is the video above, and as much as it may later turn out he deserves it I'm not yet ready to vilify him based purely on that.
Yeah, that's what the news channels I saw It on earlier said too. Just a fight, he broke it up, as you see had her restrained, and then bodyslammed her face first on to the floor. Not much else to it from what I have read and seen.
Cops are usually in a no-win with teens. They are big enough to be a handful but you have to treat them like children. A body slam is absolutely over the top though.
Looks way over the top but I'm sure we've all come across a few teens in our time that could do with a good body slam. This has come out wrong but I'm not changing it.