Nani has been out injured though, Giggs has been fit all year, so obviously in a better condition right now. I think Nani will be as good as Giggs soon.
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Nani has been out injured though, Giggs has been fit all year, so obviously in a better condition right now. I think Nani will be as good as Giggs soon.
You want Anderson to bulk up?
I think bulking down would have been more advisable for the majority of his time here.
I like Anderson, as i like Cleverley, but tbh neither of them are much use if they are hardly available for selection. This season was their opportunity to breakthrough i felt after their fantastic start to the season, but at this point im not sure where we go with either of them from here.
How is Nani "not quite there yet"?
Or does every replacement have to be as good as the players they're mean to displace (see Valencia-Ronaldo, Keane-Carrick)?
You want Anderson to bulk up?
I think bulking down would have been more advisable for the majority of his time here.
I like Anderson, as i like Cleverley, but tbh neither of them are much use if they are hardly available for selection. This season was their opportunity to breakthrough i felt after their fantastic start to the season, but at this point im not sure where we go with either of them from here.
See Cleverley I can understand, he hasn't played here, at this level before, so fitness issues can be expected given the demands. But Anderson has been here 5 years and his highest appearances were in his first season. It's just shocking.
By bulk up I mean lose the fat, gain some muscle. Like Welbeck.
The injuries are the truly frustrating thing I agree. Ala Waltcott they are impeding his development quite a bit.
Nani's form has dipped this season independent of injuries though. He went on a really poor run from the Norwich home game onwards, for a good few weeks. There was no injury beforehand.
He's not been poor this season, by any means. Definitely not far behind Valencia and better than most other wingers in the league. Just not kicked on like I hoped he would from an outstanding previous season.
Anyhoo, the thread is about Anderson. Comparing how close Nani is to Giggs with how close Anderson is to Scholes is just depressing.
Those appearances stats are shocking really.
Fair enough. I expected more from him too. The last part is depressing really.
What worries me with Cleverley though is it doesn't seem to be just niggles. Is this not the third time this season he has had ankle ligament problems? That has to be a bit of a concern in my view.
Anderson i agree completely, he just seems prone to any type of niggling injury at almost any time. If it were not for his impressive first season would he still be here?
So what if he hasn't improved on his starting appearances
Since he arrived these are the number of appearances he has made in the league:
07-08: 28
08-09: 17
09-10: 14
10-11: 18
11-12: 10.
He isn't doing that badly for a young player still mastering his trade in the hardest role in midfield.
One must also bear in mind that is appearances have gone down over the last 2 seasons due to injury.
TBF that was a team wide disease.
I find that just as worrying Chief. It is not as if there is any underlying problem that we know about. It just seems niggle after niggle, and no real signs of it slowing down. When do we say it's time to cut our losses? Or do we try and keep Giggs and Scholes forever? Sooner rather than later it seems we may have to make a decision. It is not helping an already troublesome midfield situation especially with Fletcher's condition now added to the equation.
But see that's the thing, his lack of appearances isn't because of Fergie not giving him games, it's been of his woeful fitness levels. Whenever he's fit, Fergie finds a place for him. Those first season stats show that. I'm fully sure if the lad kept himself fit he'd be getting 30+ appearances a season. He's 23 after all
Thinking about it it seems to be in complete contrast to City, who have been able to keep the spine of their team playing regularly for the majority of the season.
We saw how missing Kompany and Toure disrupted their form, yet we have had to manage with much worse disruption for almost the whole season, with no real signs of it abating. Frustrating to say the least, im pleased we are still in the mix despite our problems, but had we been able to keep a more consistent base we would probably be ahead of them by now.
We saw how missing Kompany and Toure disrupted their form, yet we have had to manage with much worse disruption for almost the whole season, with no real signs of it abating. Frustrating to say the least, im pleased we are still in the mix despite our problems, but had we been able to keep a more consistent base we would probably be ahead of them by now.
This is true. Only Carrick, Evans and Valencia (and maybe Giggs?) have avoided a lengthy dip in form this season.
Bar his month out I think Welbeck has been very consistently good too
True. Good point.
Didn't Valencia start the season badly? I remember him being really poor at the beginning of the season and then he had a good game at home in an easy game and I thought the biggest positive in that match was for him to get some confidence, which he then built on.
Valencia had a horrible spell of poor form for the three first months of the season, Pogue.
Then he suddenly decided it was rape-time.
Welbeck too.
hehehe
That's what I thought. He was horrible in that spell. Don't know how long it was for but I remember feeling relieve when he had a good game and thought it was just the confidence boost he needed.
Evans looked a bit ropey defensively early on in the season. Was making a couple of mistakes every game. But he's steadily improved a lot and now has been excellent for good bit.
He had to fill in at RB a lot of his games at the start of the season, didn't he? And once he was given his winger position back, he switched back to beast mode.
He's a hugely important player for us.
No, he played several matches as a winger as well, even after his stint at RB.
I remember having quite a long discussion about his lack of form. It basically lasted until the Crystal Palace match, where Park played as a winger and he for some reason played centrally. After that, he started to show signs of his form picking up.
You sound like Alan Pardew!
By the way, anyone heard any recent updates on Anderson? Seems to have all gone very quiet...
He's back in training (Trainings pics from 17/2/2012).
He should be back in the squad for the Tottenham game.
I think we'll see him in the Europa League, no time to start messing with our Premier League team, he should be behind Scholes, Carrick, Cleverley and Giggs in the centre.
So we're playing 5 central midfielders with Anderson as the defensive midfielder behind everyone else. Doesn't sound like much of a plan really.
Or were you hinting at the pecking order being like that.
In that case i wonder what Anderson and Cleverley are doing in such a list, as both are constantly injured.
Not that it should matter.
obviously he was referring to the latter.Yeah, the pecking order.
Have to agree. I'm a fan of his but atm messing about in CM doesnt make much sense to me in the PL. Let him play in the EL when back.
According to our manager he's available for today's game. My heart want's him to succeed but my head is unsure. Will he make it again?
He has to stay fit for a prolonged period.The guy is young and therefore inconsistent, take the injuries into account and his progression as a player is erratic
Why would any part of you not want Ando to succeed?
All rumours suggest he's going to start the match, hope it goes well for him. He's been unlucky with the amount of injuries he has had and the length of time they've kept him out of the game. Whenever he does start to play well he seems to pick up another injury again which sets him back.
All rumours suggest he's going to start the match, hope it goes well for him. He's been unlucky with the amount of injuries he has had and the length of time they've kept him out of the game. Whenever he does start to play well he seems to pick up another injury again which sets him back.
My head is unsure if he makes it.....
Don't worry. Ando is my little lovechild and have a special place in my heart.
It seems the penny has dropped with Anderson, he just needs to stay fit and he will start showing his class.
Why so sad, Maciek?
Thought he was decent when he came on, probably the only positive from tonight.
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