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when he first started with us, he did have an attitude problem...ran back to Brazil even.

But Fergie persuaded him his future was here and he was effective. I certainly remember a number of MOTM nominations and he was always there.

I think the main issue with him is injuries. He was been very unfortunate with them.

I think he has what it takes to be a very good player for us.

I hope so too but how long do you wait?
 
no-one is denying he has the talent to become a decent player,but he's hugely inconsistent,horrendously unlucky with injuries and will soon be overtaken in the pecking order by youngsters and new buys (imo) he's a very likeable fella but we cannot keep waiting for him to overcome his problems.
 
I think he has what it takes to be a very good player for us.

Despite being extremely injury prone, I don't think he ever will come good at Utd. Off the top of my head he had some good games in his first season against Arsenal and Liverpool and started the current season well but isn't good enough to start in our midfield.

IMO we would have got rid of him by now if his transfer fee wasn't so high.
 
The one thing that makes me think he will make it is Fergie renewed his contract.

His injuries have really been his main issue...now that he seems to have straightened out his attitude.

If he has gone backwards, Fergie will be rid of him, I'm sure.
 
The one thing that makes me think he will make it is Fergie renewed his contract.

His injuries have really been his main issue...now that he seems to have straightened out his attitude.

If he has gone backwards, Fergie will be rid of him, I'm sure.

I'm never really one to critisice our players but I'm puzzled to what Ando brings to the first team. He can pick out a searching ball forward, break down play being defensive and go on that odd run during the game taking a few players on but what other experienced midfielder in our team can't?

The problem we have is an expensive midfielder with big expectations. He shows up a few times a season showing us what he can do but when he's not on top form he's either injured or frustrating.

I gave him the benefit of the doubt this season because he looked brilliant but it seems we're back to square one.
 
As I said I don't doubt his ability and potential but with our current squad we just can't keep carrying so many midfielders who either can't play every game or just won't be fit enough to rely upon for the season. We're do lucky carrick hasn't picked up a knock as that could completely destroy our challenge given with fletch out there is no one else who can properly play centre mid and the others keep getting injured.

I don't think we can sign anyone unless we sell a midfielder and I think that has to be ando. It's between him and scholes for me and I think scholes just offers too much in certain games to get rid of him. Who knows if Pogba does stay in a season or two he could be at ando's level anyway. That's the other issue with ando. It's not like he's a fletch who we know can come back and be reliable, ando is still an erratic player and has plenty to learn, something he won't do without games.
 
Most of that I agree with, but Fletcher is in no way a certainty to be reliable IF he comes back.
 
Most of that I agree with, but Fletcher is in no way a certainty to be reliable IF he comes back.

I mean in terms of performance not fitness. I don't think he was bad when he was fit this season, he did lack a bit of fitness understandably and with all the defensive issues we had an ando starting a dip he didn't get much support.
 
Maybe I defined it wrong, but I wasn't referring to their style. I was referring to performances. I've never seen Anderson out in a performance that was a joy to behold, i.e. Dominated a team. Glimpses here and there but that's about it. Using the likes of Iniesta was a bad example. More so players like Rooney and Ronaldo who regulary annihilated teams by his age, they were 'a joy to behold'.

But anyway, he's never done a lot that's made me go 'wow, that's special', more show shown glimpses of what he could do in the future.
Fair enough.
 
no-one is denying he has the talent to become a decent player,but he's hugely inconsistent,horrendously unlucky with injuries and will soon be overtaken in the pecking order by youngsters and new buys (imo) he's a very likeable fella but we cannot keep waiting for him to overcome his problems.
Yes we can. He is still only 23.
 
Not sure what to read into SAF not answering questions about Anderson but, did explain Nani's absence.

Could it be just that he is done with him or they don't really know when and that itself is frustrating.
 
Anderson could be out for four to five weeks with a hamstring injury. Some hamstrings are relatively straightforward but we have to wait and see how he is in the next week or so to get a better idea of where we stand with him [in terms of his recovery].
"Four to five weeks", "wait and see" - it sounds like he's out for the rest of the season, actually...
 
Yes we can. He is still only 23.

We can only wait for so long though. What good will he be if he's 26 and still hasn't developed any further due to injuries? It's debatable whether he'll be good enough if fit and playing, so if he's still constantly injured, then he has no hope.
 
We can only wait for so long though. What good will he be if he's 26 ......
Classic if my Aunt had balls she'd be my uncle. Bottom line he is 23. If he is still like this in 3 years time of course he'd be gone. Our team isn't run by fools. That is why there is a obviously good reason why they gave him a new contract. Patience and time is what will reveal it.
 
Classic if my Aunt had balls she'd be my uncle. Bottom line he is 23. If he is still like this in 3 years time of course he'd be gone. Our team isn't run by fools. That is why there is a obviously good reason why they gave him a new contract. Patience and time is what will reveal it.

I'm not saying that there's no hope for him, but we can't just sit around and let the same cycle keep on happening, which has been the case for a while now. That's what you were suggesting we should do.
 
Yes, you did. You said we can keep on waiting for him to overcome his problems.
I said this:
''Yes we can. He is still only 23.''

I clearly qualified my statement with his age. I said so because I see so many all too willing to kick him out like he is in the Berbatov age group. To suggest I want him around just for the sake of it because of what I said is beyond ridiculous.
 
It's to the point now for me where I'd be happy for him to stick around, so long as he doesn't stop us buying a central midfielder in order to hold out for him. If we go out and buy someone this summer I'm happy for Anderson to stay, but we just can't rely on him at all, we need someone who will be able to consistently play.
 
As an aside, when Giggs was young he was injured a lot, more than most people and enough that it seemed an issue. This was before he learned to stop running at full speed.

Maybe Anderson will learn something similar. On your 8th pie, do you really need another?

But seriously, maybe he will overcome his problems and go on to have a long career. The idea that Giggs would achieve what he has when he was in his early 20s would have seemed ludicrous to me.
 
I said this:
''Yes we can. He is still only 23.''

I clearly qualified my statement with his age. I said so because I see so many all too willing to kick him out like he is in the Berbatov age group. To suggest I want him around just for the sake of it because of what I said is beyond ridiculous.

Yeah, he's not exactly an old player well past his prime, but he's not too young now either. A couple of years and he'll have hit his prime.

If you didn't mean that we can hold onto him for a few more years in your post, then I'm sorry, but you were rather vague when you said it.
 
I said this:
''Yes we can. He is still only 23.''

I clearly qualified my statement with his age. I said so because I see so many all too willing to kick him out like he is in the Berbatov age group. To suggest I want him around just for the sake of it because of what I said is beyond ridiculous.

Has anyone mentioned that he's only a year older than Cleverley yet?
 
some players are just prone to injury and he is one of those. He has never fulfilled the potential of an undoubted talent, because his injuries have never allowed him to. I reckon Fergie will move him on in the summer.
 
Has anyone mentioned that he's only a year older than Cleverley yet?

No, but I think watching them we see that Cleverley is clearly the better player out of the two.
 
As an aside, when Giggs was young he was injured a lot, more than most people and enough that it seemed an issue. This was before he learned to stop running at full speed.

Problem is with Giggs it was mostly his hamstring, wasn't it? Anderson has had it all. Breaks, cruciate ligament, different muscles. He's injury prone, there's no getting away from it. And this season, his fifth with us, has just got another stamp of 'wasted'.

Not at all optimistic for his future.
 
Problem is with Giggs it was mostly his hamstring, wasn't it? Anderson has had it all. Breaks, cruciate ligament, different muscles. He's injury prone, there's no getting away from it. And this season, his fifth with us, has just got another stamp of 'wasted'.

Not at all optimistic for his future.

Yes, that's true.
 
It's a real shame, whenever he puts in a good shift he picks up an injury thus halting his progress. Albiet the odd 20mins the other day it usually occurs after a run a of good games and this season has been worse than previous, gutted because it looked as though him a Cleverley were gonna dovetail brilliantly ealry season. He potentially could of been a maestro this season but once again his injury woes have stiffled his progress. I had high hopes for him this season at 23 I thought he'd matured and used his brain a bit more in the games he'd played, passing & moving and being disciplined when we don't have the ball but I think even at 23 and showing the talent he has I reckon the bosses pateince, much like the fans, might be wearing thin.
 
This guys injuries are becoming a bit of a joke!!! He constantly comes back for a week or two and then is out for three or four weeks!!! The guy is seriously one unfit lad or our medical staff are fecking useless, or a combination of the two.

Doubt he'd have got much game time this season anyway with the games coming up and Cleverley working his way back in to the team.

Needs to get over these injuries 100% if he is ever going to stabilise himself in the first XI
 
few moments of magic, injury. few moments of magic, injury. Hope he recovers after this and has a great pre season and great season next season.
 
Yeah he's injury prone, but alot of our players are injury prone. Maybe different training methods are needed cus the whole squad is just chronic with injuries all the time.
 
Yeah he's injury prone, but alot of our players are injury prone. Maybe different training methods are needed cus the whole squad is just chronic with injuries all the time.

We do seem to get more injuries than most. Although that may not be true. Pogue likes stats - I wonder what he has to say.
 
Anderson...son.....son
He's legs are made of wool
Anderson....son....son
He make his fans look like fools
To the left to the right
The stretcher is too tight
His limbs are made of glass
And he just love Mcdonalds

;)
 
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