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To be honest I don't see any way that SAF will let Anderson go this season or even at the end of the season. Anderson possesses fantastic attributes.

Unfortunately we only really saw them in his first season. Last season and this season were washouts.I do wonder if some of this is due to departure of Queiroz.

Nevertheless SAF believes in him - and at the same time - also knows enough to know that Anderson is not fighting with a loaded gun..

He'll give him another season/full pre-season and let him go again. Also Anderson is mentally tough - he'll get going again.

Personally I'd like to see the box-to-box stuff, the dart-like runs piercing through the oppositions central midfield spreading panic in their defence, the rapier-like passes that allow Anderson to help his team wrestle control of matches - we saw that in the first season - we've only seen it in fits and starts since.

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The Sun reported it a while back.

But why does it always have to be black and white in this area? No shade of grey. He's a work in progress and yong and learrning. When he has a feckin bad game its all doom and gloom and a slightly normal game gets the people excited. Get over it people, sit back and relax. He's got very good physical attributes and that is one thing that could very well be the reason he succeeds here (if he does). There has been improvement in his stride albeit not in the football manager mould. I can see that he's improved on his stamina and doesn't run out of steam in the hour mark. His passing though inconsistent HAS improved from a year ago. Lest we forget, he was pinging long balls and shooting to kingdom come even one year ago. This has become less in this season.

Inconsistency in his passing remains true and he does frustrate some of us as is the case with Nani because of their potential. But in both cases, i'd rather get behind them and cheer them on than hold my torches aloft and threaten to burn them.

I know you're going to come back at me and bite me hard pogue, but you seem to a slightly harsh view on Anderson. He's had his good games and he's had his bad ones. The problem with that is human memory is rather selective when it comes to the past and we see things that we want to. You might come back and ask me to name his good games this season, but my expectation is not to have a 8.5 or 9 rating. To me he does well when he passes well and goes on his dribbles and he doesn't give the ball away too often. Basically a game that shows he's improved from the previous seasons.

To call him a flop so early in his career is both short sighted and narrow minded. He's improving and also like i said young and learning.
 
acnumber9 said:
My you are such a pompous twat. Trust you to not understand what you or others are actually saying.
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Sorry torado, I'm certainly not you. The lam brain who imagines that he know's what I've been talking about since this thread started more than me, the person who made the posts.

acnumber9 said:
You're continually using the progress of other players and how he was better at that stage to show anyone thinking he won't become a great player is wrong.
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Bullshit. What I've been saying is writing him off at this stage in his career like idiots like you have been doing is nothing but fecking stupid. It doesn't kill to be patient. Time and again player after player has taken time to actually mature. But for the brain dead like you that's a foreign concept.


acnumber9 said:
I'm proving that because you're better a certain age and other individuals have had great careers doesn't mean that always happens.
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You haven't proven shit. All you did was come up with lame examples that made no sense. On top of totally creating your on dumb ass version of what I said in this thread, in a vain attempt to paper sensible and clever. When you are anything but.

acnumber9 said:
Trust you to not understand what you or others are actually saying.
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The only gimp with that disease in here is the fool called you.

Now feck off.
 
Big woop everytime Anderson has a bad game SAF apparently has a altercation with him
 
Depressing news if true without any sort of excuse... However there's so many fecking hypocites here it's tragic.

And feck OFF SCHOLESY
 
Mr Searl, calm down sir.

If Anderson stays I will happy. As long as some of you except that he will always be a squad player and stop going on about all of his fantastic attributes.
 
The Brazilian press says he's in Rio and has been talking to one of the Vasco bosses. The paper described his arrival as a "surprise" - whether he had permission to go, thought he had permission to go or he just got a plane he hasn't said.
 
Scholesy said:
Mr Searl, calm down sir.

If Anderson stays I will happy. As long as some of you except that he will always be a squad player and stop going on about all of his fantastic attributes.
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Surely you mean "accept", and what does our opinion have to do with your happiness?

It's your opinion that is the biggest sod of shite this place has seen.
 
Vasco swoop for Man Utd’s Anderson
Manchester United midfield Anderson could be the latest Brazilian to return to his home with an unexpected move to Vasco da Gama.

After being dropped from Manchester United’s 4-0 victory over Hull City on the weekend, Anderson returned to Rio on Monday night without permission of his club and will miss United’s next match on Wednesday’s against rivals Manchester City.

Anderson, 21, is already thought to have met with Vasco’s executive director Rodrigo Caetano and deal-breaker Carlos Leite, who has a financial interest in several Vasco players. Anderson has a close relationship with Rodrigo Caetano having worked together during at Anderson’s former club Grêmio. Rodrigo has a track record of using his former role to attract players to Vasco after the club signed recently signed Rafael Carioca, another former Grêmio youth product.

Upon arrival at Rio’s Galeão airport, Anderson revealed that he was in Rio to talk with Rodrigo Caetano but refused to comment on a possible move to Vasco.

Vasco could fund a move for Anderson having already agreed to sell highly rated midfielder Philippe Coutinho to Inter Milan later this year. The São Januário based club are yet to make any comment.

Rio Futblog: Vasco swoop for Man Utd’s Anderson
 
Far more likely that he'd be going out on loan in order to try and get himself a place in the world cup squad. Although surely that would leave us short of cover in the middle.
 
This is bad timing..we would be seriously short of cover in midfield.
Reckon his time with us is over if the reports are true. Surely there is no way
Sir Alex would allow any player to go awol the way Anderson was supposed to have done.
 
When he and Nani arrived in the same summer, I couldn't help but feel there was a smidgen of "Not only are they great prospects, but they just might help us hold onto Ronaldo for a little while longer" in the moves. Sort of an unspoken message to Ronaldo: "We're willing to invest this much in keeping you happy."

So I can see how at the first sign of selection-adversity, his handlers would find it in their best interests to start whispering things like: "See? We told you this would happen. They never really wanted you that badly from the start."

I love Anderson, and personally I think once Hargreaves gets back we'll look to pair the two more often, but I can't help agree with all the folk who wish we played a system that could accommodate him just a little better (further up the pitch).
 
Can't see Anderson going there and it would have real stupid of him id he did make that trip to Brazil... Find it very unlikely though.
 
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Member 5225 said:
Vasco swoop for Man Utd’s Anderson
Manchester United midfield Anderson could be the latest Brazilian to return to his home with an unexpected move to Vasco da Gama.

After being dropped from Manchester United’s 4-0 victory over Hull City on the weekend, Anderson returned to Rio on Monday night without permission of his club and will miss United’s next match on Wednesday’s against rivals Manchester City.

Anderson, 21, is already thought to have met with Vasco’s executive director Rodrigo Caetano and deal-breaker Carlos Leite, who has a financial interest in several Vasco players. Anderson has a close relationship with Rodrigo Caetano having worked together during at Anderson’s former club Grêmio. Rodrigo has a track record of using his former role to attract players to Vasco after the club signed recently signed Rafael Carioca, another former Grêmio youth product.

Upon arrival at Rio’s Galeão airport, Anderson revealed that he was in Rio to talk with Rodrigo Caetano but refused to comment on a possible move to Vasco.

Vasco could fund a move for Anderson having already agreed to sell highly rated midfielder Philippe Coutinho to Inter Milan later this year. The São Januário based club are yet to make any comment.

Rio Futblog: Vasco swoop for Man Utd’s Anderson
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Hope this is nonsense.
 
Well that's odd to say the least. I find it very hard to believe he'd just travel to Rio without the club's consent, and if he has, then it's very difficult to imagine him being a United player for much longer.

The name of the website doesn't exactly make the story trustworthy though, and it says he arrived in Rio Monday night and talked to the press - why haven't the English media picked up on that?

Oh, and Scholesy I bet you've only watched Cleverley in action once or twice at most. You always do this, judge a player within seconds based on the technique he shows within the first touch.
 
All the papers and media in Brazil are reporting that Anderson is in Rio in talks with Vasco so the rumor seems to be true but still could be BS!!! If we get a good price for him then I wouldn't be too sad to see the back of him as long as we can bring in a good replacement like Sissoko from Toulouse
 
Ringo 07 said:
All the papers and media in Brazil are reporting that Anderson is in Rio in talks with Vasco so the rumor seems to be true but still could be BS!!! If we get a good price for him then I wouldn't be too sad to see the back of him as long as we can bring in a good replacement like Sissoko from Toulouse
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if true, just the sort of news we need with 5 days left in the transfer window :annoyed:
 
I really hope this is bullshit. I think Anderson will be immense when he gets a little older.

Still just 21 and has played a significant role in our last two league wins and our two runs to European cup finals.

He's 2 years younger than Keano was when he signed and has already made 80 plus appearances for one of the biggest clubs in the world.
 
Ringo 07 said:
All the papers and media in Brazil are reporting that Anderson is in Rio in talks with Vasco so the rumor seems to be true but still could be BS!!! If we get a good price for him then I wouldn't be too sad to see the back of him as long as we can bring in a good replacement like Sissoko from Toulouse
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I doubt that any Brazilian clubs have the finance to afford buying him outright at the moment (the fee and the wages). I'd say if we were looking to sell him we'd probably look at getting around €10m for him. Thus a loan is probably best for both parties - hopefully he can regain some form and confidence and get selected for Brazil's World Cup squad. I'm still sure he has more than enough talent to succeed here but maybe there is frustration from both parties regarding his lack of progress/consistency. It's strange though, if you were asked last month who between Nani and Anderson was most likely to leave the club in the Summer most people would probably have said Nani. Hopefully Nani has turned a corner and Anderson will be able to do so too.

I'd also think that giving him a set position now will help him mature a bit. I don't think he is a DM/CM but more suited to a role further up the pitch. Once he can get used to playing in a specific position he can maybe begin to understand the responsibilities that come with it, which can only benefit him for the future. Maybe he'll bang in a few goals as well.
 
Hmm... I assume it's not considered AWOL then, seeing as Fergie yesterday stated he was pleased with the fitness of the squad returning.

Still... sends odd signals... we could use every option we've got right now.
 
Unless we've got another central midfielder lined up (which I very highly doubt), or Hargreaves is nearing recovery (which I doubt even more highly), I just can't see this happening. Then again, I thought the same when the news on the canceled Ljajic deal broke.

I don't see why we'd sell Anderson. He may not have lived up to our expectations but he's still young and he's still a very decent squad player. If Fletcher and/or Carrick get injured we can't rely on anyone to replace them. Anderson is the closest we have.
 
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said:
Sorry torado, I'm certainly not you. The lam brain who imagines that he know's what I've been talking about since this thread started more than me, the person who made the posts.

Bullshit. What I've been saying is writing him off at this stage in his career like idiots like you have been doing is nothing but fecking stupid. It doesn't kill to be patient. Time and again player after player has taken time to actually mature. But for the brain dead like you that's a foreign concept.


You haven't proven shit. All you did was come up with lame examples that made no sense. On top of totally creating your on dumb ass version of what I said in this thread, in a vain attempt to paper sensible and clever. When you are anything but.

The only gimp with that disease in here is the fool called you.

Now feck off.
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You need the help of a good head doctor.
 
Well if he has gone to Rio i doubt its without the clubs permission - even moreso if its to discuss terms with another club, i mean what did they tap him up? Also has there been any formal announcement by United that he missed trainning and will be punished because he just upped and left - i mean if they havent said anything and he left on Monday perhaps he got permission by the club

We dont know the facts and it does seem very odd that we are willing to lose a midfield player in the middle of the season, even if people dont seem to rate him
 
this is awful if true
he could become a great player with time (and more games)
 
Scholesy said:
Cleverley is a more exciting talent.

We would lack the presence of a physical player if he went.
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feck OFF

Mainoldo said:
Can't see Anderson going there and it would have real stupid of him id he did make that trip to Brazil... Find it very unlikely though.
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Me as well, however...

Crerand Legend said:
I would go with that actually, SAF has a habit of sending players home if he thinks it will benefit them
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... Could be the case? Who knows, it's all a blur to me, the English loids haven't been on this and if it was a big deal, it would be front page news on many respectable football sites.
 
To put it bluntly, Anderson has very little chance of making the WC starting Eleven. Hell, if he even makes the squad it'll be an achievement. Even Lucas Levia is regarded as a better prospect at the moment (I'm not making this up, he actually is...)

I'm not sure how to feel about this news to be honest. I would like Anderson to stay with United and prove himself, but if he did leave without permission and is angling for a move as has been reported then perhaps it's best he does go. A grumpy brazilian is something we don't need.

Hope the story doesn't have any legs, but you do wonder as some of the reports seem very hard to refute (surely if he's been seen in Rio, there's got to be some reason for it).

With Robinho looking to move, and Jo doing something similar I would not put it past our Brazilian goalscorer to pull this type of antic. Got all the talent in the world these lads, but mentally more then a few of them are suspect.
 
FreakyJim said:
this is awful if true
he could become a great player with time (and more games)
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Yes

OneUnited24 said:
For all we know SAF could have given him a week off
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Hope this is what happened

niMic said:
I'd be gutted if we sold Anderson. I really can't see it being the case, but weirder stuff has come out of the blue before..
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terribly gutted. I'm a self confessed Anderson Fanboi.

Anderson Searl said:
feck OFF



Me as well, however...



... Could be the case? Who knows, it's all a blur to me, the English loids haven't been on this and if it was a big deal, it would be front page news on many respectable football sites.
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Yes. Giving me more hope.

Kelvin said:
feck hope its bullshit.
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Hopefully yes.
 
The rumours that Anderson walked out when he got left out of the Hull squad have been floating around for days. But I'd assumed that rumour came about because the players usually go to games at OT and he didn't (which might not mean anything other than he had a bit of a cold).

The idea that he arrived back in Rio Monday night/Tuesday morning fits in with that walked out idea, but it also fits in with SAF telling him to bugger off home for a few days and get his head straight. Some of the Brazilian press are speculating that he's looking for a 6 month loan deal but Caetano at Vasco who Anderson went to see says, "He used to play for me, and he's a great guy. We're not in negotiations - he's on a good contact at United."

Then again, the quote could be made up. Rumours, eh.

O DIA ONLINE - ATAQUE - Vasco - Vasco sonha com Anderson, do Manchester United
 
Devilton said:
To put it bluntly, Anderson has very little chance of making the WC starting Eleven. Hell, if he even makes the squad it'll be an achievement. Even Lucas Levia is regarded as a better prospect at the moment (I'm not making this up, he actually is...)
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Depressingly enough, that doesn't surprise me.
 
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