you mean they actually know something we don't? Those silly feckers are still plying the Rooney-to-Madrid "story"
might be wrong here, but I thought it wasn't that long ago Fergie gave him a break to go home??????????
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you mean they actually know something we don't? Those silly feckers are still plying the Rooney-to-Madrid "story"
might be wrong here, but I thought it wasn't that long ago Fergie gave him a break to go home??????????
That was the reported story, but he featured in the game against Wigan (H) when it was supposed he was going to be back home. Perhaps if he is taking a break now, it's because he's not seen as as vital for the next few fixtures as he was then, or because SAF might be punishing him by dropping him for a few big games (if they had indeed argued)? This is just speculation ofc.
If SAF wanted to give him a week's R&R back home he would have done it immediately after the game against City, meaning he would miss out on the Hull game (in which he wouldn't feature anyway) and the CC second leg.
It makes no sense whatsoever to be on the opposite sid of the Atlantic for today's game AND the game against Arsenal when there's every chance tonight's game will be a hard, physical battle that could go on for 120 minutes. At the very least, we can expect Fletcher et al to be jaded but I wouldn't be surprised at all if we end up picking up a few knocks (especially if Bellamy and Tevez attempt similar "tackles" to the ones ignored by the ref in the first leg)
Obviously, I hope he's ended up in Rio with SAF's blessing but if the stories in the Brazilian press are true I'm afraid the most likely explanation is one of those incredibly selfish trans-Atlantic strops that some Brazilian players go off on whenever their nose is put out of joint.
It makes no sense whatsoever to be on the opposite sid of the Atlantic for today's game AND the game against Arsenal when there's every chance tonight's game will be a hard, physical battle that could go on for 120 minutes. At the very least, we can expect Fletcher et al to be jaded but I wouldn't be surprised at all if we end up picking up a few knocks (especially if Bellamy and Tevez attempt similar "tackles" to the ones ignored by the ref in the first leg)
Obviously, I hope he's ended up in Rio with SAF's blessing but if the stories in the Brazilian press are true I'm afraid the most likely explanation is one of those incredibly selfish trans-Atlantic strops that some Brazilian players go off on whenever their nose is put out of joint.
I hate to say it, but since he's Brazilian, he's probably fecked off because he's not feeling the love. And it's cold, and he's suddenly felt the samba call from the motherland. That's not me being xenophobic, it's basically following the trend set by more then a few Brazilian players when the perceive their European paymasters aren't giving them the 'respect' they are due.
There's every chance he will turn up after a week in the sun because we can't be sure what's happening behind the scene. If he has indeed gone with Fergie's blessing maybe it's just to clear his head. If he hasn't, maybe he'll have a rethink when he realizes that any other club in Brazil is going to be a monumental step down from what he currently has at United.
Or perhaps one of his close friends will remind him, that unlike Robinho who actually has a genuine shot of starting for Brazil, Anderson has a snowballs chance in Rio to book a seat on the plane. So even if he fecking asks for a loan move and then gets it, there's no way he will be going to South Africa this summer.
I'll be honest. I always had a feeling the penny would drop when it came to Anderson. You could tell he wasn't always 100% happy here (except when he was doing the samba after our CL win ~ that was brilliant!) But this season you can tell he's either under pressure to perform, or he knows he's just not progressed in the way he expected. I know a lot of us want him to become the next Ronaldinho but that's a pipe dream and one that's probably never going to happen. I hope he gets his head back into the game and returns to OT with some humility and the right attitude, but if not - well, I personally think if we recoup half the money we dumped into his transfer we'll be fine.
I think midfield in the next few years is where we are going to spend most of our money, and lets face it, more then a few people wonder just what role is Anderson going to play for us? I've said it before about him, and I'll say it again. He's a player that's good at a lot of things, but exceptional at none.
There's every chance he will turn up after a week in the sun because we can't be sure what's happening behind the scene. If he has indeed gone with Fergie's blessing maybe it's just to clear his head. If he hasn't, maybe he'll have a rethink when he realizes that any other club in Brazil is going to be a monumental step down from what he currently has at United.
Or perhaps one of his close friends will remind him, that unlike Robinho who actually has a genuine shot of starting for Brazil, Anderson has a snowballs chance in Rio to book a seat on the plane. So even if he fecking asks for a loan move and then gets it, there's no way he will be going to South Africa this summer.
I'll be honest. I always had a feeling the penny would drop when it came to Anderson. You could tell he wasn't always 100% happy here (except when he was doing the samba after our CL win ~ that was brilliant!) But this season you can tell he's either under pressure to perform, or he knows he's just not progressed in the way he expected. I know a lot of us want him to become the next Ronaldinho but that's a pipe dream and one that's probably never going to happen. I hope he gets his head back into the game and returns to OT with some humility and the right attitude, but if not - well, I personally think if we recoup half the money we dumped into his transfer we'll be fine.
I think midfield in the next few years is where we are going to spend most of our money, and lets face it, more then a few people wonder just what role is Anderson going to play for us? I've said it before about him, and I'll say it again. He's a player that's good at a lot of things, but exceptional at none.
Disagree with this sentiment.
I see real talent in the boy
he is fecking 22
ask me again in 3 years.
I see real talent in the boy
he is fecking 22
ask me again in 3 years.
Three more years to prove what exactly? I can't see him being given one more year TBH
You never know, SAF could have just made the decision late. he may have been in his plans for these games but thought it might be better for the rest of the season i he got a break for a week
All i know is if he went on his own accord then his United career is over but i dont know why it comes as a shock as only 2-3 weeks ago he was talking about improving and showed the right attitude - as he has done while hes been at United. SAF even said a month or 2 ago that Anderson was going to become a real star for United, i know SAF has a bit of a temper and perhaps he said something that really offended Anderson but again i find that hard to believe.
Midfielders take a while to reach their peak, particularly if their tactical training is as behind as Andersons seems to be. Players like Fabregas are exceedingly rare indeed.
Any spastic that writes off Anderson at this stage in the game is guilty of being a spastic.
The only thing that could be a concern if all this paper talk is true is his desire to succeed.
Surely he will be given more time, his expectations to match Fabregas' progress were ridiculous and surely his best years are ahead of him... followed by the late 20's fat Brazilian stage which he should be sold before.
Stands to reason he should be given more time.
The only concern is whether or not his failure to progress as quickly as we would have hoped is down to a lack of application on his part. If this is the case and there's any truth to him buggering off to Brazil without permission then I don't think the manager will be all that willing to take a long-term view.
The only concern is whether or not his failure to progress as quickly as we would have hoped is down to a lack of application on his part. If this is the case and there's any truth to him buggering off to Brazil without permission then I don't think the manager will be all that willing to take a long-term view.
it might be me, but he's loked a bit flabby this season, strange, as his general stamina seems to have improved.
You're not the first person to suggest he's carrying extra timber.
I haven't noticed it myself and I reckon he's definitely fitter than he was last season. Who knows though, he's a very frustrating player to watch so he might be just as frustrating to train.
Who would have thought two weeks ago that Nani would be the one cheered on the Caf while Ando would be rumoured on his way out.
Indeed.
You've also got to wonder what would have happend if Nani had (allegedly) fecked off abroad without permission right before two of our biggest games of the season. He would have been absolutely crucified.
Because it's Anderson - with his big, smiley face - people are much more willing to look for excuses.
Not as all, even if Nani had done this im pretty sure we would want more sources than the Sun or NOTW - and these are the only 2 outlets that have reported it, unless i've missed something.
Im sure people arent looking for excuses just because its Anderson.
The Sun/NOTW reported the (alleged) falling out with SAF but it's the Brazilian media that are reporting on him turning up in Rio, in a lot more than just 2 outlets by all accounts.
Well, I'd like to think most fans will always stand behind a United player until we know all the facts. I don't think it has much to do with Anderson, other than the fact he's a United player.
The fact a lot of people on here will jump on Nani's throat the minute they see an opportunity is in my opinion a bigger concern than people backing Anderson.
Just like how I prefer so-called fanboys as opposed to the opposite where we see fans doing their best to put a player down (Scholesy).
By the way...have we EVER had a successful Brazilian at united over the decades?
I don't have any problem with "so-called fanboys" either, so long as the object of their affection actually plays for Manchester United!
There's not been very many in England full-stop.
https://www.redcafe.net/f7/brazilians-england-283894/
I would say that Rafael and Fabio are cut from different cloth, mind you. This might be because they feel more at home with their twin to support them but I can't help feeling much more optimistic about them than I do about Anderson.
Yes, naturally, I should have clarified that.
I remember the first season enthusiasm. "he shites on Fabregas" 
Those were funny times
Those were funny times
I remember the first season enthusiasm. "he shites on Fabregas"
Those were funny times
so the theory now is Anderson is as bad as Kleberson and he should pack his bags and leave.
First he'll have to pack his bags and come back.
Who could you be referring to there Top ?
Brazilian head researcher on the SI forums who can spot a Brazilian football issue from 50 miles:
The bigger issue is whether he left without permission, which will have consequences of course.
PMLF said:
The bigger issue is whether he left without permission, which will have consequences of course.
Vasco official reveals talks with AWOL United star
Vasco official reveals talks with AWOL United star 27 January 2010 - 11:41 | Sport.co.uk
Vasco official reveals talks with AWOL United star 27 January 2010 - 11:41 | Sport.co.uk
We're buying Vasco. Anderson is SAF's ambassador.
AWOL ? wtf ?
So I turn my back for a few minutes and suddenly he does an Adriano / Robinho
Shame if his number is up, I think he has bags of potential.
I'd agree with Pogue in terms of suspecting attitude if something is wrong. Anderson, like Nani have won a lot while contributing relatively little over the past couple of years.
I'd agree with Pogue in terms of suspecting attitude if something is wrong. Anderson, like Nani have won a lot while contributing relatively little over the past couple of years.
This doesn't sound good, does it?
Tbf the original source of the report is taken from the NOWT - just to put things in their perspective..
However I will not be extremely surprised if Anderson did that. I ve heard lot of rumours about his off-the-field activities like partying etc. Maybe they re not true, but one thing is for sure, that on the field he s not very impressive, which is a pity considering his talent
Hard to imagine that a United player under the reign of Fergie would just walk out and piss off to Brazil without allowance
Not its not, i'm not saying he's shit. Like I said I think he has bags of potential and has put in some great performances.
What I mean is that success has come quick to them and with relatively little effort (in terms of players like Rooney or Ronaldo who developed over the course of a number of years) and that perhaps it dulled their hunger a little or made them think they were successful when in fact they're both still very raw with a lot of work to do.
Either way its a suggestion more than a statement of fact
He's not just any player though. He's brazilian, it's part of their make-up it seems. When things go sideways they've always got a passport and plane ticket ready. Anderson isn't the first to feck off and go back home. He's just following tradition.
feck Argentinians and Brazilians, lets stick to signing Serbs and Dutch, with the odd Frenchman.
Sir Alex Ferguson set to hand Anderson huge fine after Brazilian skipped training
Read more: Sir Alex Ferguson set to hand Anderson huge fine after Brazilian skipped training | Mail Online
no mention of flying off to brazil though...
Read more: Sir Alex Ferguson set to hand Anderson huge fine after Brazilian skipped training | Mail Online
no mention of flying off to brazil though...
Hmmm...
Considering he's not in any of the training pics and the Brazilian press all claim Anderson's in Rio I'm not sure the Mail's really up to speed here.
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