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It's interesting how Fergie has turned two crucial moments in disappointing players in Nani and Anderson into positives. Nani had his outburst, Anderson left the team and crashed his car. They seemed to be moments of their demise. Fergie has turned them into moments of their rise.

He really is amazing.
 
What more can you guys ask from him. He was our creative spark from midfield, tracked back well and won the ball on many occasions, was direct and drove through their midfield and also scored a goal. It was resemblant of Ryan Giggs' performance in the 2008/2009 season when we won 3-0 against Chelsea.
 
His best match I think I've seen.So much intelligence between keeping things simple with a short pass or trying long passes (which were good) and a goal to top it off
 
I've been making a comparison with Gerrard for years, and I still see it that way. So talented, can absolutely rip opposition teams apart with his passing, strength, pace and driving runs (which we're finally starting to see him do on a regular basis). But those attacking passes and driving runs come at a price - giving the ball away a fair bit and being caught out of position and giving the opposition a chance to go through our midfield too easily. Those were the reasons I (and quite a few others) were saying Gerrard would always tend to be too inconsistent for a midfield two and Liverpool would be better off using him in a more attacking role, years before they actually started doing it.

I see Anderson in exactly the same way. He can be brilliant in a midfield two, but the way he plays means we will get caught out and punished too often. As the more attacking member in a 4231/433 though, that's where he could really rip opposition apart.

The two things Gerrard does have over him is a far superior goal threat and also making himself available to receive the ball more often (although I have noticed Ando has improved at that in his last few games).

As for his fitness and not being able to last 90 minutes, we have to remember he actually was lasting the full 90 last season before he got injured. It took until his third year, but he was doing it. So we have a good reason to think he'll start being able to do it again now once he gets a good run of games together.
 
The lad had a great game and things are looking very promising. Chuffed for the fella.
 
He was exceptional last night: pace, power, balance, but most importantly brilliant long and short passing and a goal! I'd forgotten how good he can be. Rather like nani it's hopefully the case that he has learned to harness his talents.
 
I see Anderson in exactly the same way. He can be brilliant in a midfield two, but the way he plays means we will get caught out and punished too often. As the more attacking member in a 4231/433 though, that's where he could really rip opposition apart.

This might be nice...

-------------------------VDS--------------------
Rafael-----------Rio------------Vidic-------Evra
-------Carrick-----------------------Scholes-----
Nani-----------------Anderson-----------Rooney
----------------Berbatov/Hernandez------------
 
He really has improved his consistency this past month. I hope he becomes a regular for us by maintaining his consistency. To have Scholes - Anderson - Carrick in our midfield would be awesome. Carrick could be the defensive one, Ando can close down players and be a ball winning midfielder and of course Scholes will be our playmaker.
 
Fitness is thee reason his united future has been in doubt? What are some.of you smoking?

Firstly, why do you think his united future has been in doubt? Hes a talented young player who like all young players has suffered from inconsistency. nothing new.

secondly, if there have been doubts surely it must be over form. he's young enough to male those small adjustments in his game.

its really energy management more than getting fitter.
 
Fitness is thee reason his united future has been in doubt? What are some.of you smoking?

Firstly, why do you think his united future has been in doubt? Hes a talented young player who like all young players has suffered from inconsistency. nothing new.

secondly, if there have been doubts surely it must be over form. he's young enough to male those small adjustments in his game.

its really energy management more than getting fitter.

Because we only saw glimpses of his good performances over the past three years. He has rarely been consistently performing very good like this past month over the past couple of seasons. That is why everyone thought he is done here. He has made a brilliant comeback though just like Nani did last year. We just have to hope he keeps putting in these good performances.
 
Because we only saw glimpses of his good performances over the past three years. He has rarely been consistently performing very good like this past month over the past couple of seasons. That is why everyone thought he is done here. He has made a brilliant comeback though just like Nani did last year. We just have to hope he keeps putting in these good performances.
Isn't that sad though? If a 29 year old Berbatov whose granted been good for us this season has some issues with consistency, then surely we can understand players under 23 having them too, and be more patient.


Either way, that being a reason still makes some sense. His fitness being a reason to doubt his united future as someone claimed is nonsense.
 
This might be nice...

-------------------------VDS--------------------
Rafael-----------Rio------------Vidic-------Evra
-------Carrick-----------------------Scholes-----
Nani-----------------Anderson-----------Rooney
----------------Berbatov/Hernandez------------

But how sure are we that moving Wayne to the left is the best? Unless they all play dynamically and move around.
 
fecking great game from him.
Faded a bit in the last minutes, but no wonder the ways he ran.
 
I'm hoping that if Anderson turns it around like Nani did then it might make them a little bit more patient with some of our other young players - like Evans now, maybe Smalling in a year, Cleverley in a couple of years etc. - because the fact we do it over and over again with players that are obviously talented and have been shown plenty of faith by the coaching staff is a huge testament to how successful we are at bringing players on and yet people forget that.

Every year.

He really was shocking in the last 20 minutes or so though, I think he made one pass that worked. Every other one either cannoned off the opposition player because he let himself be closed down or was hit wide, and most of them were on the edge of the box so it was very risky. At least Sir Alex had the good sense to move him forward for the last bit once he was almost completely exhausted.
 
With more experience he'll know how to better use his stamina levels.Him getting tired is not a problem of stamina but I think he runs too much with the ball and it has obviously an impact.He'll get there.
I'm still amazed that he scored a goal :eek:
 
I'm hoping that if Anderson turns it around like Nani did then it might make them a little bit more patient with some of our other young players - like Evans now, maybe Smalling in a year, Cleverley in a couple of years etc. - because the fact we do it over and over again with players that are obviously talented and have been shown plenty of faith by the coaching staff is a huge testament to how successful we are at bringing players on and yet people forget that.

Every year.

He really was shocking in the last 20 minutes or so though, I think he made one pass that worked. Every other one either cannoned off the opposition player because he let himself be closed down or was hit wide, and most of them were on the edge of the box so it was very risky. At least Sir Alex had the good sense to move him forward for the last bit once he was almost completely exhausted.

Good post

Agree on that, he was running on empty. I said in the match day thread I wish players would concentrate on the simple pass rather than the hollywood version.
 
Didn't watch the game, but I'm hearing good things about Anderson. Obviously he hasn't lived up to expectations, but lets hope he keeps this up and proves the doubters wrong.

He needs to play further forward in my opinion, more of an attacking mid.
 
With more experience he'll know how to better use his stamina levels.Him getting tired is not a problem of stamina but I think he runs too much with the ball and it has obviously an impact.He'll get there.
I'm still amazed that he scored a goal :eek:

Good point. As someone else already said, his problem last night was an issue of managing his energy as much as anything else.

He's obviously desperate to make the most of his opportunities at the minute and is running around like a mad man without having the match fitness which might give him the extra reserves needed to last a full 90.

He just needs to pace himself a bit better to avoid hitting the wall so dramatically, then the fitness that comes with games will take care of the rest.
 
So, anyone know where Uefa are hiding their "distance covered" stats on their homepage? Would be interesting to see just how much Anderson ran last night.
 
So, anyone know where Uefa are hiding their "distance covered" stats on their homepage? Would be interesting to see just how much Anderson ran last night.

I wanted to find them as well but failed. Help please.
 
So, anyone know where Uefa are hiding their "distance covered" stats on their homepage? Would be interesting to see just how much Anderson ran last night.

Somewhere in here?

UEFA.com - UEFA Champions League - Statistics

I remember Mozza once dug out a pdf with really detailed stats from a particular game (used them to defend his beloved Carrick, naturally) Buggered if I can find anything like that though.
 
With more experience he'll know how to better use his stamina levels.Him getting tired is not a problem of stamina but I think he runs too much with the ball and it has obviously an impact.He'll get there.
I'm still amazed that he scored a goal :eek:

Thats something we do not want him to lose as a player, that drive and ability with the ball.

Its a case of him realising... my style of football is pretty much all action and therefore I need more stamina than your average midfielder central midfielder. He needs to look at Scholes and realise despite Scholes just measuring his energy output and being in the right place at the right time, his role is rather different and he has to put in the hours off the pitch in order to benefit his game on it.

He needs to aspire to have Gerrard like fitness levels and cannot use the excuse he ran the most, if you're running the most than you have to do extra stamina work to compensate for it and prove you can manage to do it for the full 90.

Imagine further down the line in crucial games where it goes to extra time and what have you and one of our most creative midfielder has to go off because his legs have gone.. a very unprofessional situaion and one that would harm the team.
 
So, anyone know where Uefa are hiding their "distance covered" stats on their homepage? Would be interesting to see just how much Anderson ran last night.

They don't publish it anymore (for individual players that is, just the whole team).
Some stats can be found in UEFA.com - Press kits
 
Thats something we do not want him to lose as a player, that drive and ability with the ball.

Its a case of him realising... my style of football is pretty much all action and therefore I need more stamina than your average midfielder central midfielder. He needs to look at Scholes and realise despite Scholes just measuring his energy output and being in the right place at the right time, his role is rather different and he has to put in the hours off the pitch in order to benefit his game on it.

He needs to aspire to have Gerrard like fitness levels and cannot use the excuse he ran the most, if you're running the most than you have to do extra stamina work to compensate for it and prove you can manage to do it for the full 90.

Imagine further down the line in crucial games where it goes to extra time and what have you and one of our most creative midfielder has to go off because his legs have gone.. a very unprofessional situaion and one that would harm the team.

Absolutely we don't want to lose it, beating your marker in midfield opens up so many avenues of attacks and draws out other players to close him down. And then rooney, nani, berbatov one on one can cause havoc.

Gerrards certainly more athletic, as is Fletcher so those comparisons are harsh because they naturally have an advantage. They'll probably spend less energy covering a lot more ground that Anderson would. Anderson has to get fitter and smarter about when to do what. I think scholes is a better example of how to conserve your energy over 90 minutes to pick when to play the pass and when to take your man on.
 
"Anderson has been absolutely brilliant in the last three games," said Ferguson.
"He has been tremendous. He offers something different from the other midfield players we have got.
"He has tremendous pace, can beat a man and is always decisive in his passing."

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Thats something we do not want him to lose as a player, that drive and ability with the ball.

Its a case of him realising... my style of football is pretty much all action and therefore I need more stamina than your average midfielder central midfielder. He needs to look at Scholes and realise despite Scholes just measuring his energy output and being in the right place at the right time, his role is rather different and he has to put in the hours off the pitch in order to benefit his game on it.

He needs to aspire to have Gerrard like fitness levels and cannot use the excuse he ran the most, if you're running the most than you have to do extra stamina work to compensate for it and prove you can manage to do it for the full 90.

Imagine further down the line in crucial games where it goes to extra time and what have you and one of our most creative midfielder has to go off because his legs have gone.. a very unprofessional situaion and one that would harm the team.

I agree, it's either he works on his stamina in terms of becoming stronger in that department or either he learns to use his energy more intelligently.
 
I'm hoping that if Anderson turns it around like Nani did then it might make them a little bit more patient with some of our other young players - like Evans now, maybe Smalling in a year, Cleverley in a couple of years etc. - because the fact we do it over and over again with players that are obviously talented and have been shown plenty of faith by the coaching staff is a huge testament to how successful we are at bringing players on and yet people forget that.

I wouldn't bet on it. People have failed to heed the lessons in the past. I doubt they'll start now.
 
Full interview:
Boss salutes Anderson

Anderson's recent upsurge in form has underlined his potential importance to United's future.

The Brazilian has been among the Reds' outstanding performers against Blackburn, West Ham and Valencia and, after he scored a vital equaliser against the Spaniards, Sir Alex Ferguson admitted the 22-year-old is showing his worth.

"He’s been absolutely brilliant, tremendous," the manager told MUTV. "He offers something different from the other midfield players we’ve got. He’s got tremendous pace and he can beat a man.

"He’s always decisive in his passing in terms of penetration. So he’s different from the other midfield players we’ve got, like Darren, Michael and Scholesy, who lies a bit deeper at his age."

Anderson's strike against Valencia was only his second for the club and his first at Old Trafford, and Sir Alex is keen for the midfielder to regularly contribute goals in the future.

"He should score more goals," he said. "He’s got the pace and power. He’s clever, he’s accurate with his passing, he should be accurate with his finishing and he’s taken his goal well tonight. I’m pleased. That’ll help him."

Manchester United Official Web Site - Boss salutes Anderson
 
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