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Anderson hamstring 23rd Dec
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I'd love to see him back in time for Newcastle.
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Thats what the sticky thread Nemanja15 created says.
It was updated on the 14th...
Anderson hamstring 23rd Dec
Nani and Evans hamstring 1st jan
I'd love to see him back in time for Newcastle.
Physioroom says the 29th, though. So it might be a bit longer before he returns.
How on earth is he so injury prone though?
He has the potential to be a beast for a full season, yet these injuries keep holding him back.
It would be extremely vital for the team to have his energy, on new year's fixtures.
Yeah those 60 minutes per game are vital!
Well Yaya's 60 minutes for City are. And Özil's for Madrid often are too.
How was Bryan Robson? Jamie Redknapp? Louis Saha?
It's the million dollar question, and if full time physios and expert doctors/surgeons can't figure it out, I'm very doubtful you'll find the answer on redcafe.
Yup, totally agree with you hear, the motivation behind me asking such a question was frustration..
However it brings up the point, is he training in a bad way etc? Of course none of us can ever truly know this, but it's still a million dollar question as you put it that crosses my mind quite a bit.
Of course ! In many matches, you can easily kill the game in 60 minutes, if you have good amount of quality and energy, in the team.
We will need that, especially in new year's fixtures. Every player may be useful when there's shit load of fixtures, ahead.
Probably cause they're much better and more consistent players.
Not to mention the fact that each time he has started this season, aside from his injury game, he has managed a minimum of 70 minutes.
Started 7 games, aside from his injury where he came off before half time and in those 7 games he has played 586 of a possible 630 minutes.
The same guy who made an attacking charge from his own half in the somewhere around the 85th minute against Braga before the move broke down around their area and who was the one to get back to make an important tackle in his own area? No prizes for guessing.
O'She....Oh right, Anderson.
I refuse to believe that he constant injuries are just down to bad luck, he'll never make it here if he doesn't sort it out.
I agree, but what do you mean by this? You think he's actually making himself injury prone somehow?
Well obviously not on purpose, but fitness is always going to play a part in injuries. There's a reason that the likes of Ronaldo, Messi, Lampard (in his prime) etc never get injured and also play every single minute of every match, the two go hand in hand.
What, Fat Frank?
A few years ago Lampard played 90 minutes in practically every game for Chelsea. His fitness levels were amazing.
Was Owen Hargreaves unfit? I think it's too simplistic to put it down to general fitness levels. Of course having good energy levels is always a positive but sometimes players just seem to be quite injury prone for no lack of trying.
Good thing I didn't put it purely down to that.
Do you think Anderson's Brazilian partying ways put a strain on his ACL last season?
Yeah, I'd say he's a party animal, you can tell he's had plenty of practice cause his dancing is so damn good.
I'm trying to work out how he hasn't been keeping himself in top shape. It's been shown any number of times that he isn't over weight and he's put the minutes in this season and in a high octane explosive fashion.
Every little detail of the players training is monitored by statistics and every game is monitored by GPS, if he wasn't doing enough work on the field, in the gym or on the training pitch, the coaches would be making him work double time.
The truth is that no training session is done at the same intensity as a 90 minute competitive match, so no matter how much work you do off the field the only real preparation for games is to play more games. Something he hasn't been able to do because he can't catch a break with injuries. It's catch 22.
Right, but then you have Rafael, who was also susceptible to injuries and struggled for fitness, and look at him now, he plays practically every minute of every game (or did til Jones came back). It's clear he improved his fitness levels in pre-season and because of that he's been able to keep going and get fitter and fitter by playing first team football. Have we ever seen anything like that from Anderson?
All those dates are silly. Only the club may know, and it's quite possibly they can't be sure either.
Keep stressing this mate. The "Anderson lasts only 60 minutes" brigade needs to get that stat in their heads.
Considering it's a hammy, I don't expect him back til January. Usually with injuries, our med staff makes the worst case prediction. Hence, why most players come back before the expected date.
He's barely been given the chance to play a couple of games in a row this season, and maybe twice he's come off after 70 mins or so? That doesn't say 'unfit' to me, it just says that he's not being given the sort of run that allows a player to build match fitness.
Personally, I don't think we can say either way. Only Fergie and the medical team will know what the situation is. People used to say he was fat, until twitter and instagram and the like let us see loads of photos of him with a trim 6-pack. Now people say he's unfit in some other sense, but they still have absolutely nothing to go on except for a couple of substitutions in a horribly stop-start season.
Personally, I don't think we can say either way. Only Fergie and the medical team will know what the situation is. People used to say he was fat, until twitter and instagram and the like let us see loads of photos of him with a trim 6-pack. Now people say he's unfit in some other sense, but they still have absolutely nothing to go on except for a couple of substitutions in a horribly stop-start season.
He uploaded an instagram photo of himself at a bakeryNo it's not clear that he stopped getting injured because he just did something different in pre-season, especially considering Rafael didn't have a pre-season to magically working out his previous injury issues. At least it's not clear to those of us that are not all seeing, all-knowing that better fitness levels have lead to less injuries to him so far.
Luck plays a big part in how a player can go from being injury prone to regularly fit
Why do the Owens (Michael & Hargreaves) always get injured Cina? Both aee model professionals and Hargreaves in particular was one of the fitest players in football.
Wes Brown is another example.
Why do Ronaldo and Messi not? The players you've mentioned were also able to play full seasons before they had their injury issues. Anderson can barely string a run of five games together, and looks knackered whenever he plays 90 minutes.
All I said at first was that his injuries aren't entirely down to bad luck, not that they're all because he isn't a "model professional".
For years everyone on here was saying that all he needed was a pre season, he got that, and the injuries still continued, same thing every year.
If you think it's just bad luck then fine, doesn't change the fact that he'll never make it here if this keeps happening.
All I said at first was that his injuries aren't entirely down to bad luck, not that they're all because he isn't a "model professional".
For years everyone on here was saying that all he needed was a pre season, he got that, and the injuries still continued, same thing every year.
If you think it's just bad luck then fine, doesn't change the fact that he'll never make it here if this keeps happening.
they didnt drank enough milk when kids...
Drank?
Yeah drank
An alarm probably just went off in Plech's head.
This is always said... I'd really like to see his stats for how much distance he travels, and the average speed he runs during the match. He always seems to sprint alot more than anyone else on the pitch, bar Rafael / Hernandez. Plus, as a CM you have him battling for balls alot which takes energy out of it. I'd love to see, Carrick/Fletcher/Cleverley do as much running and battling as Anderson in a match and see how they'd fare on energy to spare. Look at boxers, plod around a ring for 36 minutes and cuddle for half the match after round 3, that's because they're using their bodies, which Anderson does in shielding the ball, or going shoulder to shoulder. It's rare Anderson gets outmuscled the way our other midfielders do. He's also more box-to-box than the others, Carrick seems defensive mainly, Cleverly doesn't seem very defensive at all. Scholes generally sits around the middle third of the pitch, and Giggs generally does the same. Anderson seems to be everywhere.
Also, just because he "looks" knackered, doesn't mean he is.. he might not be fully energized by that point, but I bet he'd still smash most other people with his fitness at that point.
Went on a bit of a rant there
Didn't mean to, but I think the "fitness" argument is getting out of hand and overused for him, sure he might not be the fittest person ever, but he's giving it his all, for the entire time he plays.He's unfit
Excuses.This is always said... I'd really like to see his stats for how much distance he travels, and the average speed he runs during the match. He always seems to sprint alot more than anyone else on the pitch, bar Rafael / Hernandez. Plus, as a CM you have him battling for balls alot which takes energy out of it. I'd love to see, Carrick/Fletcher/Cleverley do as much running and battling as Anderson in a match and see how they'd fare on energy to spare. Look at boxers, plod around a ring for 36 minutes and cuddle for half the match after round 3, that's because they're using their bodies, which Anderson does in shielding the ball, or going shoulder to shoulder. It's rare Anderson gets outmuscled the way our other midfielders do. He's also more box-to-box than the others, Carrick seems defensive mainly, Cleverly doesn't seem very defensive at all. Scholes generally sits around the middle third of the pitch, and Giggs generally does the same. Anderson seems to be everywhere.
Also, just because he "looks" knackered, doesn't mean he is.. he might not be fully energized by that point, but I bet he'd still smash most other people with his fitness at that point.
Went on a bit of a rant there
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