great result..good to see them getting a goal back so quickly after the equaliser
Boro v. United
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Paul Scholes > God
sloppy win but three points is three points.
Get in there!! Remember Boro whooped us 4 1 last year and that they beat the 'Renties' this season so thats 3 marvellous points!!!
Lets get on the Lash!
Lets get on the Lash!
Great win!
Great result.
Felt like the second longest 2nd half since the CL final against Bayern.
Felt like the second longest 2nd half since the CL final against Bayern.
Scholes is Class personified. What a Legend.
Rooney1987 said:
Your half right-Ronaldo dive
Superb fixture to get out of the way, like Bolton and Blackburn away, 3 points is sweet as
Fecking brilliant win.
gh78 said:
Its like he is the only one that dives. Poor Boro fan Absolutely delighted. Why the feck did our players look so sad troughout the game.
Anyways, brilliant result, this will pile the pressure on Chelsea when they face Arsenal.
Anyways, brilliant result, this will pile the pressure on Chelsea when they face Arsenal.
The Benfica game is the biggest game of our season so far. Can't wait for it.
Rooney1987 said:
Didn't waste any time .Says that Ronaldos diving distracted from a good United performance.
Jacob said:
I love you
Jacob said:
I love you too
Have sky's cocksuckers seen rosicky's dive ?
[Hellboy]17 said:
probably not.
great result, but not a very good performance, let's be honest. Still, very good result considering chelsea dropped points here. Now that makes up for the 2 dropped points at Reading. Was hoping Henry would be available for the chelsea game, but it appears not.
December_16 said:
Ronaldo was good but I have to disagree with you about MOM.
Scholes was in a class of his own.
feck feck feck, i just wake up and missed the game huhu
I was in the pub with a load of Boro fans, who got rather excited at 1-1... only to be silenced by Fletcher a minute later...again...his 2nd goal at the riverside.fecking brilliant.
It's amazing that you can watch a game in Boro and there be a louder chear when united score than when they do mind.
ste, you must be very upset that we beat your team.
poor ste
poor ste
Manchester United winger Cristiano Ronaldo plunged himself into further controversy as the Barclays Premiership leaders claimed three points at Middlesbrough.
Referee Chris Foy awarded the visitors a 19th-minute penalty after Ronaldo had gone down under keeper Mark Schwarzer's challenge, although replays suggested the anger of the home fans was justified.
Frenchman Louis Saha exorcised the ghost of his Champions League miss against Celtic by sliding home the spot-kick, although his effort was not the game's decisive intervention.
United went close to extending their lead on several occasions, but they were pegged back on 66 minutes when substitute James Morrison dragged the Teessiders right back into it.
However, Sir Alex Ferguson's men needed less than two minutes to restore their advantage, Darren Fletcher heading home the winner to cement his side's lofty status in front of a crowd of 31,238 as the master got the better of novice Gareth Southgate.
In truth, had United not won, they would have had only themselves to blame, although the Boro boss will have been pleased with the attitude of his players after he was forced into a half-time reshuffle by Jonathan Woodgate's premature departure.
Writing in his programme notes, Boro chief executive Keith Lamb said: "Gareth Southgate's stated ambition for the club is that he wants success and he wants to achieve it by playing attractive, attacking football - but not at any cost."
That sentiment was reflected in Southgate's selection as he added winger Stewart Downing, back from a groin injury, and combative midfielder Lee Cattermole to the mix - one to help create openings, the other to break up play in the middle of the field.
However, neither proved to be the central figure in an opening 45 minutes packed with both incident and controversy.
That United deserved to leave the pitch at the break to the good after a series of high-octane attacks was not in any doubt, but the way in which they achieved it left a sour taste in the mouths of the home fans.
The visitors had already gone close twice - Saha saw a downward header blocked on the line by Robert Huth, and Ryan Giggs failed to find an empty net after Schwarzer had parried Ronaldo's blistering strike - when they got their noses in front on 19 minutes.
United's approach play was little short of breathtaking, Saha turning deliciously just inside the Boro half to race past Woodgate and slide a precision pass into the path of the unmarked Ronaldo.
The Portuguese international took the ball in his stride and cut inside Schwarzer, plummeting to the ground in the process.
Referee Foy pointed immediately to the spot, but what contact there was, if any, was minimal.
Saha, taking a penalty for the first time since his costly European miss at Parkhead, stroked the spot-kick past the Australian to make it 1-0.
The Teessiders might have been level within two minutes, Abel Xavier hitting a post with a header from Downing's free-kick in his first home game since his drugs ban expired.
But Wayne Rooney, who endured a quiet evening, steered a shot just wide at full-stretch 11 minutes before the break and Schwarzer had to tip a rasping 40th-minute Ronaldo free-kick over as United threatened to kill the game off.
Woodgate's non-appearance after the break saw Southgate abandon his 3-5-2 formation for a more orthodox 4-4-2 with Morrison coming on to line up on the right side of midfield.
The new shape gave the home side a more enterprising look, although central defender Huth wasted a promising position when he drilled an ambitious 51st-minute free-kick straight into the wall.
Schwarzer had to turn a dipping left-footed shot from Ronaldo around the post two minutes later, but Edwin van der Sar was called upon for the first time in the game seconds later to pluck a Morrison cross out of the air just ahead of Aiyegbeni Yakubu.
But Boro were looking increasingly vulnerable and Giggs shot high and wide from a tight angle after Paul Scholes and Rooney had staged a scintillating break-out before Huth had to dispossess the England striker in front of goal.
They were made to pay with 66 minutes gone when Downing cleverly evaded Gary Neville's challenge to cross and Gabriel Heinze's weak header fell to Morrison, who thumped a volley past van der Sar to level.
But the home side's joy was short-lived and ended within two minutes as Giggs picked put Fletcher's run into the box after Ronaldo had left the Boro defence standing and the Scot headed powerfully home.
Downing curled an 85th-minute free-kick past the angle and Huth saw a late effort hacked away by Neville, but the points were safe.
Teams
Middlesbrough Schwarzer, Huth, Woodgate (Morrison 46),Pogatetz, Xavier (Parnaby 88), Cattermole, Boateng, Downing,Taylor, Yakubu, Christie (Maccarone 72).
Subs Not Used: Jones, Arca.
Booked: Christie, Cattermole.
Goals: Morrison 66.
Man Utd Van der Sar, Neville, Ferdinand, Vidic, Heinze,Ronaldo (Brown 86), Scholes, Giggs, Fletcher (O'Shea 75),Rooney, Saha.
Subs Not Used: Kuszczak, Evra, Carrick.
Booked: Scholes, Vidic, Saha.
Goals: Saha 19 pen, Fletcher 68.
Att: 31,238
Ref: C Foy (Merseyside).
Referee Chris Foy awarded the visitors a 19th-minute penalty after Ronaldo had gone down under keeper Mark Schwarzer's challenge, although replays suggested the anger of the home fans was justified.
Frenchman Louis Saha exorcised the ghost of his Champions League miss against Celtic by sliding home the spot-kick, although his effort was not the game's decisive intervention.
United went close to extending their lead on several occasions, but they were pegged back on 66 minutes when substitute James Morrison dragged the Teessiders right back into it.
However, Sir Alex Ferguson's men needed less than two minutes to restore their advantage, Darren Fletcher heading home the winner to cement his side's lofty status in front of a crowd of 31,238 as the master got the better of novice Gareth Southgate.
In truth, had United not won, they would have had only themselves to blame, although the Boro boss will have been pleased with the attitude of his players after he was forced into a half-time reshuffle by Jonathan Woodgate's premature departure.
Writing in his programme notes, Boro chief executive Keith Lamb said: "Gareth Southgate's stated ambition for the club is that he wants success and he wants to achieve it by playing attractive, attacking football - but not at any cost."
That sentiment was reflected in Southgate's selection as he added winger Stewart Downing, back from a groin injury, and combative midfielder Lee Cattermole to the mix - one to help create openings, the other to break up play in the middle of the field.
However, neither proved to be the central figure in an opening 45 minutes packed with both incident and controversy.
That United deserved to leave the pitch at the break to the good after a series of high-octane attacks was not in any doubt, but the way in which they achieved it left a sour taste in the mouths of the home fans.
The visitors had already gone close twice - Saha saw a downward header blocked on the line by Robert Huth, and Ryan Giggs failed to find an empty net after Schwarzer had parried Ronaldo's blistering strike - when they got their noses in front on 19 minutes.
United's approach play was little short of breathtaking, Saha turning deliciously just inside the Boro half to race past Woodgate and slide a precision pass into the path of the unmarked Ronaldo.
The Portuguese international took the ball in his stride and cut inside Schwarzer, plummeting to the ground in the process.
Referee Foy pointed immediately to the spot, but what contact there was, if any, was minimal.
Saha, taking a penalty for the first time since his costly European miss at Parkhead, stroked the spot-kick past the Australian to make it 1-0.
The Teessiders might have been level within two minutes, Abel Xavier hitting a post with a header from Downing's free-kick in his first home game since his drugs ban expired.
But Wayne Rooney, who endured a quiet evening, steered a shot just wide at full-stretch 11 minutes before the break and Schwarzer had to tip a rasping 40th-minute Ronaldo free-kick over as United threatened to kill the game off.
Woodgate's non-appearance after the break saw Southgate abandon his 3-5-2 formation for a more orthodox 4-4-2 with Morrison coming on to line up on the right side of midfield.
The new shape gave the home side a more enterprising look, although central defender Huth wasted a promising position when he drilled an ambitious 51st-minute free-kick straight into the wall.
Schwarzer had to turn a dipping left-footed shot from Ronaldo around the post two minutes later, but Edwin van der Sar was called upon for the first time in the game seconds later to pluck a Morrison cross out of the air just ahead of Aiyegbeni Yakubu.
But Boro were looking increasingly vulnerable and Giggs shot high and wide from a tight angle after Paul Scholes and Rooney had staged a scintillating break-out before Huth had to dispossess the England striker in front of goal.
They were made to pay with 66 minutes gone when Downing cleverly evaded Gary Neville's challenge to cross and Gabriel Heinze's weak header fell to Morrison, who thumped a volley past van der Sar to level.
But the home side's joy was short-lived and ended within two minutes as Giggs picked put Fletcher's run into the box after Ronaldo had left the Boro defence standing and the Scot headed powerfully home.
Downing curled an 85th-minute free-kick past the angle and Huth saw a late effort hacked away by Neville, but the points were safe.
Teams
Middlesbrough Schwarzer, Huth, Woodgate (Morrison 46),Pogatetz, Xavier (Parnaby 88), Cattermole, Boateng, Downing,Taylor, Yakubu, Christie (Maccarone 72).
Subs Not Used: Jones, Arca.
Booked: Christie, Cattermole.
Goals: Morrison 66.
Man Utd Van der Sar, Neville, Ferdinand, Vidic, Heinze,Ronaldo (Brown 86), Scholes, Giggs, Fletcher (O'Shea 75),Rooney, Saha.
Subs Not Used: Kuszczak, Evra, Carrick.
Booked: Scholes, Vidic, Saha.
Goals: Saha 19 pen, Fletcher 68.
Att: 31,238
Ref: C Foy (Merseyside).
Middlesbrough boss Gareth Southgate accused Manchester United winger Cristiano Ronaldo of cheating after he earned his side a controversial penalty at the Riverside Stadium.
Ronaldo goes down as Schwarzer looks on.
Television replays showed that Boro goalkeeper Mark Schwarzer made no contact with the Portuguese international in the 19th-minute incident which saw referee Chris Foy give Louis Saha the chance to fire his side ahead.
Asked if Schwarzer felt he had been cheated, Southgate replied: "Yes, it is as simple as that.
"It is very difficult for the referee because it happens very quickly, but how many times are we going to see it?
"The lad has got a history of doing it and in the end, that has cost us the game.
"If you go behind to a goal against a team like United, it is a mountain to climb.
"Our goalkeeper has done everything he can to get out of the way. There was clearly no contact, I did not think so at the time and when you see the replays there is nothing there.
"For me, it is never a penalty.
"I do not know what you do. That is for people who are better qualified than me to deal with.
"I am not interested in talking about him, really. He plays the way he obviously thinks is the right way. That's fine, but on the day, that has given us a mountain to climb."
Saha's spot-kick was cancelled out by substitute James Morrison's 66th-minute strike but Darren Fletcher headed home a Ryan Giggs cross two minutes later to extend United's lead over Chelsea at the top of the Barclays Premiership to six points.
Asked about the incident, United boss Sir Alex Ferguson said: "I thought it was a clear penalty to be honest with you."
After being shown a replay, he added on PremPlus:"He is trying to evade it, isn't he? But would he have scored? I think he would have.
"Anyway, it is a penalty kick."
Ferguson was delighted with the three points on an evening when his side perhaps should have killed off the game long before they did.
Ronaldo, who was booed at virtually every touch after the penalty incident, repeatedly carved the Teessiders open, although they rallied after the break and might have snatched a point in a late flurry.
The win extended United's unbeaten run in the Premiership to 11 games and made it eight away games in the league without defeat.
Ferguson said: "Today was a very important result for us. It is not an easy place to come to, as we have experienced in the past, but they (United players) showed a great resolution today.
"Even when they equalised they came straight back at them and they wanted to win it.
"That is important. It is not an easy place and it was a very difficult game.
"It was hard for the referee with the crowd but it is a good result."
A clearly angry Southgate was nevertheless happy with the efforts of his players.
He added: "It was always a very tough game for us. They are the best side, at the moment, in the league and it is made a lot harder when you go behind to a goal like that as well.
"We started the game quite brightly, we were well in it when they scored and that knocked our confidence a bit, and when you go behind to a team like United, it is a very difficult ask to come back."
Meanwhile, Wayne Rooney expressed his delight at United opening that six-point lead.
The England striker said: "It's gone to six points and Chelsea have the game in hand. As we've said before, we'd rather have the points than the games in hand,'' said Rooney.
"We had to work hard out there today. It was probably our toughest game of the season. I think we deserved the three points.''
Rooney told PremPlus that United are in shape to maintain their serious title bid.
"We're playing well,'' he added. "If we keep playing like that, I'm sure we'll be up there near the end.''
Ronaldo goes down as Schwarzer looks on.
Television replays showed that Boro goalkeeper Mark Schwarzer made no contact with the Portuguese international in the 19th-minute incident which saw referee Chris Foy give Louis Saha the chance to fire his side ahead.
Asked if Schwarzer felt he had been cheated, Southgate replied: "Yes, it is as simple as that.
"It is very difficult for the referee because it happens very quickly, but how many times are we going to see it?
"The lad has got a history of doing it and in the end, that has cost us the game.
"If you go behind to a goal against a team like United, it is a mountain to climb.
"Our goalkeeper has done everything he can to get out of the way. There was clearly no contact, I did not think so at the time and when you see the replays there is nothing there.
"For me, it is never a penalty.
"I do not know what you do. That is for people who are better qualified than me to deal with.
"I am not interested in talking about him, really. He plays the way he obviously thinks is the right way. That's fine, but on the day, that has given us a mountain to climb."
Saha's spot-kick was cancelled out by substitute James Morrison's 66th-minute strike but Darren Fletcher headed home a Ryan Giggs cross two minutes later to extend United's lead over Chelsea at the top of the Barclays Premiership to six points.
Asked about the incident, United boss Sir Alex Ferguson said: "I thought it was a clear penalty to be honest with you."
After being shown a replay, he added on PremPlus:"He is trying to evade it, isn't he? But would he have scored? I think he would have.
"Anyway, it is a penalty kick."
Ferguson was delighted with the three points on an evening when his side perhaps should have killed off the game long before they did.
Ronaldo, who was booed at virtually every touch after the penalty incident, repeatedly carved the Teessiders open, although they rallied after the break and might have snatched a point in a late flurry.
The win extended United's unbeaten run in the Premiership to 11 games and made it eight away games in the league without defeat.
Ferguson said: "Today was a very important result for us. It is not an easy place to come to, as we have experienced in the past, but they (United players) showed a great resolution today.
"Even when they equalised they came straight back at them and they wanted to win it.
"That is important. It is not an easy place and it was a very difficult game.
"It was hard for the referee with the crowd but it is a good result."
A clearly angry Southgate was nevertheless happy with the efforts of his players.
He added: "It was always a very tough game for us. They are the best side, at the moment, in the league and it is made a lot harder when you go behind to a goal like that as well.
"We started the game quite brightly, we were well in it when they scored and that knocked our confidence a bit, and when you go behind to a team like United, it is a very difficult ask to come back."
Meanwhile, Wayne Rooney expressed his delight at United opening that six-point lead.
The England striker said: "It's gone to six points and Chelsea have the game in hand. As we've said before, we'd rather have the points than the games in hand,'' said Rooney.
"We had to work hard out there today. It was probably our toughest game of the season. I think we deserved the three points.''
Rooney told PremPlus that United are in shape to maintain their serious title bid.
"We're playing well,'' he added. "If we keep playing like that, I'm sure we'll be up there near the end.''
Will Paul Scholes be suspended if he get a yellow card again?
if he is currently on four then yes
Just watch MofD again and noticed how fecking brilliant Saha did in the build-up to the pen. Received the ball, dribbled past 3 and put an excellent trough-ball to Ronaldo who got us the pen.