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Ballsy from Jeremy.
If the "brexit underclass" are more interested in being able to buy a home and a decent paying job, why vote for something that will bring them economic hardship. Presume these are the Tory brexit underclass.
Yup and wouldn't that be the end of the Labour party?
Firstly, i don't think these comparisons between Brexit and Nazi Germany do Remain posters here any credit whatsoever.
Secondly, the Guardian's article clearly stated that Mr Phillips resigned for reasons pre-dating the A50 court case. The other professed reasons are not particularly logical mind you, and his citing of the child refugee issue i found particularly odd.
I don't know to that you are referring with regards to the Government, so i must ask you to elaborate further there. As for Brexit...i think there are a small number of well established goals for the majority of Leave voters. One cant' speak for every last person, but nor could we for Remain, or a political party at GE.
Secondly, the Guardian's article clearly stated that Mr Phillips resigned for reasons pre-dating the A50 court case. The other professed reasons are not particularly logical mind you, and his citing of the child refugee issue i found particularly odd.
I don't know to that you are referring with regards to the Government, so i must ask you to elaborate further there. As for Brexit...i think there are a small number of well established goals for the majority of Leave voters. One cant' speak for every last person, but nor could we for Remain, or a political party at GE.
Brexit, anyway
I know exactly how people live, we live in the most economically-deprived part of our town in a small terraced house between two commercial premises, plus I've lived and worked in similar areas in Liverpool and Bradford.
Apart from that, what you're saying is the crux of my post above. They won't get a better chance of a job or a home with Brexit. Absolutely no chance whatsoever. And it would have been good if they'd been presented with a little more information before they made their choice in the referendum. Some of my neighbours voted "leave" and their reasons included "to stop Turkey becoming European" (more than one person said this, they'd read it on FaceBook or something and voted accordingly). Why did they think that would make their lives better, give them a better job or their own home?
Jesus
Nah, thats not going to happen. Brexit will happen whether any of us want it or not
UK politics are fun. Not as gaudy as American politics but with some of that same "Oh Christ, what's happening now" unpredictability.
And suddenly the hippie Santa is back in consideration for my vote.
May cannot guarantee anything, let alone access to the single market. If Corbyn goes through with that and together with the SNP plus some Tory remainers, who has the majority.
Well doing his knees in wasn't really a viable option, was it?
Thankfully most brexiteers preferred to throw themselves down the stairs instead
Yeah, but all May has to do is call a GE and then Labour is decimated. If they refuse to honour the electorate and the result of the referendum, then they can kiss their seats goodbye. It's stuff like this that drives people into the open arms of UKIP, and god knows what would happen if them nutters had power!
The real Thatcher PM from 1979 till 1990
Fake Thatcher from July till March?
Fake Thatcher from July till March?
It made no difference which way they voted so they stopped voting, then three decades later someone said vote in this referendum and remember it will harm the city of London if you vote Brexit. So guess which way they voted?
Yes that's the way UK politics is going, that's why all the alarm bells are ringing
Will the Tories join UKIP in coalition though? Would they want that stain on their party's history?
So they basically hit the hand that fed them? That's smart
Maybe the city of London should consider independence alongside Scotland and Northern Ireland. Let see how the wealthy Midlands and North survive without the city of London's dosh
Yes because they have been fed misinformation, they had no idea what they were voting for, as I said a long time ago, this shouldn't have gone to a referendum, how can someone with so little knowledge vote for a history changing event like this - absolutely ridiculous
Have you watched the BBC program no place to call home?
Penna's post led me to this video:
In that video that woman pretend that the UK can't prevent Turkey from joining the EU, she talks about the EU as if the UK weren't member of it and as if they didn't had a vote at the EU council.
She also forgot to mention that to start the negotiation the EU council need to vote and agree at the unanimity and we already know that Cyprus aren't going to agree.
In that video that woman pretend that the UK can't prevent Turkey from joining the EU, she talks about the EU as if the UK weren't member of it and as if they didn't had a vote at the EU council.
She also forgot to mention that to start the negotiation the EU council need to vote and agree at the unanimity and we already know that Cyprus aren't going to agree.
Indeed. If Brexit somehow didn't happen (which I doubt), the UK's problems would only just be beginning. The leavers would (with some justification) be even more angry and disillusioned than they were before, with the media no doubt egging them on. They wouldn't go away, even if Brexit magically did. What happens then?
On the other hand the slightly fewer people who are against Brexit are expected to sit back and watch their economy disintegrate and heavens knows what other consequences.
All this has done is divide the country. Some sovereign United Kingdom this will be.
Problem is, you're speculating on what could happen. Wasn't the economy supposed to crumble and fall when the vote was revealed on 24th June? Wasn't recession and misery forecast? Didn't happen did it? Problem is, no one knows whats going to happen, not you, not me, no one.
Even the underclass would spend a week in Spain. Every problem they have is mostly caused by UK government, not the EU
I think you should be more worried about what happens after Brexit and the lives of the leavers is still shit. Those who have whipped them into a frenzy won't turn around and say we were wrong, they can only direct that hate to others, lest it turns on them.
Really you think you do with houses in two countries while they can't afford one in the country they were born in?
[QUOTE="Paul the Wolf, post: 20022642, member: 87651"]If the "brexit underclass" are more interested in being able to buy a home and a decent paying job, why vote for something that will bring them economic hardship. Presume these are the Tory brexit underclass.[/QUOTE]
No they want to be able to live in one and can't get one, the dream of being able to buy one is long gone for them but you live France and know feck all about it.
No they want to be able to live in one and can't get one, the dream of being able to buy one is long gone for them but you live France and know feck all about it.
I'm sorry, but that is baseless nonsense. There was no prevailing sentiment of all essential European workers disappearing. Brexit does however carry the potential for a global immigration policy, and one which can respond flexibly to the challenges of the 21st Century. Considering its size, the beneficial terms afforded to EU migrants are rather out of proportion.
Even if this wasn't a vote for the next 30-40 years, i think that is quite a statement to make. And given their present circumstances, what would blind faith in the EU have offered them?
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I wrote a post a day or two back, the first stage was the first devaluation of the pound, the second stage would be when Article 50 would be triggered, which a lot of people thought would have already been done by now, but now earliest will be sometime next year. The third stage when the UK leaves the EU. It's only just over 4 months since the vote.
A recession is when two consecutive quarters have negative growth - we're not there yet. A hard brexit will result in a major economic downturn but nobody yet knows what type of Brexit will happen, not even the government if there is one at all
No they want to be able to live in one and can't get one, the dream of being able to buy one is long gone for them but you live France and know feck all about it.[/QUOTE]
What are you on, how do I not know about the UK, I only lived 51 years of my life there and worked for a British company up till last July.
Because I live in France I live in a bubble, it's amazing I can connect to Redcafe.
What drivel. Sure you're not Farage in disguise
What are they gonna do, throw their walking stick at bearded hipsters?
"What are you on, how do I not know about the UK, I only lived 51 years of my life there and worked for a British company up till last July.
Because I live in France I live in a bubble, it's amazing I can connect to Redcafe.
What drivel. Sure you're not Farage in disguise[/QUOTE]"
Good grief you are so out of touch you don't even know you are out of touch. I begin to understand your views now.
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That's true. Maybe just wait for winter to pick a few of them off.Ah, the ageist argument is back in town.
Joke more than argument, I think. The laughing face was a hint.