Cop in America doing a bad job, again

A nice compilation.
Some have been posted here before, others haven't.
I feel bad for the cop who comes in running from far away in the 1st one but the guy is being beaten up from all sides so he can't get a kick in.
 
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/31/us/georgia-cobb-county-officer-racial-comment-trnd/index.html

A police lieutenant in Georgia caught on dashcam telling a woman in a traffic stop that "we only kill black people" plans to retire.

Cobb County police Lt. Greg Abbott stood to lose his job for the remarks. But Cobb County Public Safety Director Samuel Heaton said Friday the department had received an e-mail from Abbott requesting immediate retirement.
"He was eligible for that. Once he retires he is no longer employed so no disciplinary action can take place. He is entitled to his retirement, which he would've received even if he was fired," Heaton told CNN.
 
Wish I had a simple answer. The training mirrors the threats that are out there in the streets. I've traveled to many countries and I agree that police in the US are more wired and on edge than places in Europe and Asia. Most of those countries don't have as strong of a criminal element with the wide access and availability of guns. I just don't get the feeling that cops are targets as much as they are here in the US. On the other hand in places like Brazil and Mexico cops seem more on edge and almost all carry their guns off-duty, and for good reason. The whole gun debate in America is another topic, but IMO goes hand in hand with the current climate of crime and policing. For a 1st world country we really do have a culture of violence here that I can't really explain.

Re the bolded part, It's usually during planned major protests/demonstrations where police are geared up like the military. When we are notified of a demonstration in our area, we're told to "gear up", which at my Dept really only means getting a helmet and baton. Every dept has the handful of officers who look like Mr Gadget with their 2 backup guns, tactical vests, tactical holsters, extended magazines, multiple flashlights, and we all make fun of them for looking so ridiculous. But again, even equipment and gear police departments utilize is in response to certain events. You can read or watch a youtube video of the 1997 North Hollywood Shootout where 2 men armed with "more gear than the military" including bulletproof vests etc went on a shooting spree against LAPD, who were only armed with their handguns. After that event every patrol car required a shotgun or other long-gun and every officer is trained in using it. Gone are the days a unit would be sitting ducks waiting for SWAT to arrive.

Also mass shootings/attacks like Columbine, Orlando nightclub, Colorado movie theater, etc and the current ISIS-inspired attacks have changed the game. Before Columbine, police were trained to set up a perimeter and hold it until SWAT arrived. They came under heavy criticism for it and rightly so. If there's an active shooter capping off people then we are now trained to go to the threat and stop him/her. I can tell you that I have had heated discussions with my own colleagues on what we would do if there was an active shooter. Not everyone agrees that we should go in and stop the threat, as discomforting as it may sound.

From the outside, it seems like other countries police focus much more on de-escalation, and the line between conversation and physical force is much wider. In the UK for instance the public assumption is that a police officer will not lay hands on you unless you're an active threat to someone or if you've commited a crime and are trying to escape. You'll often see violent or aggressive people in town centres drunk having fights, and the police will spend the time talking them down, seperating them, but very rarely just grabbing people and throwing them on the floor or against walls to cuff them. It's very much seen as a last resort rather than a 'I've had enough of this shit' attitude which we keep seeing in many of these videos from the US. A while ago a US police officer went for training in the UK and wrote an article about how shocked he was by the difference in approach. I'll try and look out for it when I have a bit more time.
 
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/31/us/georgia-cobb-county-officer-racial-comment-trnd/index.html

A police lieutenant in Georgia caught on dashcam telling a woman in a traffic stop that "we only kill black people" plans to retire.

Cobb County police Lt. Greg Abbott stood to lose his job for the remarks. But Cobb County Public Safety Director Samuel Heaton said Friday the department had received an e-mail from Abbott requesting immediate retirement.
"He was eligible for that. Once he retires he is no longer employed so no disciplinary action can take place. He is entitled to his retirement, which he would've received even if he was fired," Heaton told CNN.
They should check the rules to see if he can effectively retire in that way, with no notice. If he has to provide notice then fire him while on it.
Edit: forget it. At least he didn't violate anyones civil rights, that time.
 
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/31/us/georgia-cobb-county-officer-racial-comment-trnd/index.html

A police lieutenant in Georgia caught on dashcam telling a woman in a traffic stop that "we only kill black people" plans to retire.

Cobb County police Lt. Greg Abbott stood to lose his job for the remarks. But Cobb County Public Safety Director Samuel Heaton said Friday the department had received an e-mail from Abbott requesting immediate retirement.
"He was eligible for that. Once he retires he is no longer employed so no disciplinary action can take place. He is entitled to his retirement, which he would've received even if he was fired," Heaton told CNN.

To be fair, I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic, making a joke. Still shouldn't have said it, but I don't think he was serious.
 
A while ago a US police officer went for training in the UK and wrote an article about how shocked he was by the difference in approach. I'll try and look out for it when I have a bit more time.
Probably shocked at the lack of guns too. "How do you exert control?".
 
Sure, but how many times are they in a shootout? Most interactions are with unarmed people.
Just seems to me that some cops are on a power trip.
 
Imo it should be the hospital's head doctor or whoever is in charge of it duty to prosecute that officer dickwad for this type of shit. Make a fecking example of the cnut.
 
Imo it should be the hospital's head doctor or whoever is in charge of it duty to prosecute that officer dickwad for this type of shit. Make a fecking example of the cnut.
Doctors and heads of hospitals can't prosecute any one. They can support the nurse and encourage her to press charges if there are any to press or a lawsuit in civil court.
 
Doctors and heads of hospitals can't prosecute any one. They can support the nurse and encourage her to press charges if there are any to press or a lawsuit in civil court.

Well that's shit news then, hope she gets all the support she can and picks up the fight.
 
If you have a society that dehumanizes criminals(especially if you are poor or black), the change will not start with the cops.
It took me 20 minutes to explain to a class of 16 year olds that keeping people in an outdoor prison in a desert (Arapio's prison) isn't okay.

They even acted offended when I quoted the Bill of Rights.

These are the same people who call themselves "conservative Republicans" and say it's the "liberals" who hate the Constitution.
 
Thought my thread had a better title. American cops suck. Full of neo nazi cnuts looking to kill minorities.

EDIT: They don't suck, they're scum. Pure fecking scum.
And you must be dreaming in living in completely anarchy, the question is how long you would survive without the "scum" to protect you, after all we know we have bad apples in our basket but we know we have more cops than any other country so we have a few more bad apples.
 
It took me 20 minutes to explain to a class of 16 year olds that keeping people in an outdoor prison in a desert (Arapio's prison) isn't okay.

They even acted offended when I quoted the Bill of Rights.

These are the same people who call themselves "conservative Republicans" and say it's the "liberals" who hate the Constitution.
Depends which type of criminals you are talking about, murderers, rapists and violent crime criminals don't have my sympathy actually they should suffer 10 times more than their victims
 
Depends which type of criminals you are talking about, murderers, rapists and violent crime criminals don't have my sympathy actually they should suffer 10 times more than their victims
Were you in that class? You sound just like them...

I'd like for you to show me where that caveat to the 8th Amendment is located.
 
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It took me 20 minutes to explain to a class of 16 year olds that keeping people in an outdoor prison in a desert (Arapio's prison) isn't okay.

They even acted offended when I quoted the Bill of Rights.

These are the same people who call themselves "conservative Republicans" and say it's the "liberals" who hate the Constitution.
Often it's the same people who are very vocal about their fear of Sharia law and how primitive it is. Only to advocate Stone age justice in the comments of the next news story about some crime.
 
Often it's the same people who are very vocal about their fear of Sharia law and how primitive it is. Only to advocate Stone age justice in the comments of the next news story about some crime.
Yep! And then also defend their outlook by saying America "was" and/or "should" be a nation with laws based on the Bible.
 
They're being video'd now, all the time, body cams, car cams. They've had them for ages. And they still don't behave themselves, it's like they don't know.
 
Looks like a fecked up accident.

An accident in this case that could have had life ending, not just altering, consequences. Accidents happen to everyone all the time, but in situations where the possibility could be someone dying, you really can't afford to make a mistake like just blindly firing at someone without, at a very minimum, giving some kind of command.

The photographer has been in good spirits about it, and hopefully manages to get his Nikon replaced that got ruined in the rain when it was out in the street overnight.
 
An accident in this case that could have had life ending, not just altering, consequences. Accidents happen to everyone all the time, but in situations where the possibility could be someone dying, you really can't afford to make a mistake like just blindly firing at someone without, at a very minimum, giving some kind of command.

The photographer has been in good spirits about it, and hopefully manages to get his Nikon replaced that got ruined in the rain when it was out in the street overnight.

Exactly...

The guy nearly killed his friend, I hope that sinks in for that whole department. They need to stop excusing fcukries and call these incidents out tho, I could go on but I've said it all before :(