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Eden Hazard | "I am signing for Chelsea"
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Hardly a terrible second team with all our players is it? I'd also say that both Man utd and city have a core 3/4 players that they rely upon just as much as we're supposed to rely on the same 3/4 players.
As for Hazard, silly to get optimistic about it on merely a rumour, regardless of how reliable the paper apparently is. But I don't think its beyond the realms of possibility that he could want to join a club that is still in and around where he wants to be but where he is effectively guaranteed a starting place.
Isn't he good friends with Lukaku? How's that move working out for him so far? Behind an old Drogba, a shit Torres and for the first half of the season, even Anelka. They're both at a stage where they should be playing to advance.
Who's he 100% going to displace at City, Bayer, Real and Barcelona? And who really wants to move to Serie A these days?
Don't think Spurs will get him, if they do get him, fair play. But I just think that City and Chelsea both can offer him financially something that Spurs won't be able to ever. That's the reason why they lost out on Mata aswell. Also I don't think Spurs can afford spending 40m Euros on someone before selling a player.
He will end up at City or Chelsea imo.
Modric will leave Spurs also.
Modric will leave Spurs also.
Spurs are going to make the Champions League next season. If people want Bale and Modric, they will have to pay over the odds for them. They are not going to just leave like how people think they would.
Hes an unbelievable talent, possibly the biggest talent.
Therefore we wont be in the running. Can see him at Spurs or City for sure
Therefore we wont be in the running. Can see him at Spurs or City for sure
Think we will be easily priced out of the market. Cant see us paying anywhere near the silly money that will be involved if the big spenders get involved.
what is it you are confused about? We dont/wont/cant compete for top talent so it shoudlnt be a shock to hear!I'm pretty sure we can compete with Spurs for him.
Personally I'd live him here, though whether he's what we actually need is another question. Still, I see it a bit like Jones, a young talent who is too good to miss out on.
Personally I'd live him here, though whether he's what we actually need is another question. Still, I see it a bit like Jones, a young talent who is too good to miss out on.
Im pretty sure we cant compete with Chelsea or City should they declare an interest, which they inevitably will
We are far down the pecking order of clubs able to spend big on emerging or established talent!
We could compete financially with either of them if we really wanted the player.
Aye that's true. Let's wait and see, personally with no disrespect to Spurs I can't see them getting a talent like Hazard who already has a huge no of admirers.
True but on 'Arry's part, it didn't help him pubically declaring an interest in the player as it would have increased the transfer price. Plus I'm sure the player was more interested in a move to Chelsea or Arsenal.
I hope we don't pass up the opportunity on Hazard...If Spurs can afford him then his wage demands can't be that high. Sign him up Fergie....
I dont buy that sorry!
Of course we can pass up on him like we've passed up on several young talented players before and nothing happened. He isn't even what we need at the moment and if Gaitan rumours are true he'll be even less needed.
That's your problem though. For United there's no problem because we could realistically purchase any player that is in the market if we wanted him badly enough.
Hazard is a much bigger talent than Gaitan.
The transfer forum gets absolutely idiotic whenever there is even a rumor of other team signing a good player. If the same site said that United are gonna sign Hazard, then all of you would've been dismissing it as a rumor, but since it's not United, then it must be right plus we get the same moans from the same idiots everytime.
Interesting, how many times have you seen Gaitan?
Enough. And he looks an excellent player dont get me wrong here. Just in my opinion Hazard is the best talent out there.
It isnt a slight on Gaitan, just my opinion.
I would see Spurs being in with a decent shout ... and after all the player himself has just said so.
It's not so hard to see why. We are likely to be in the CL next season, are in the Premier League, are based in London, will probably be able to offer higher wages than he currently gets and could guarantee him a starting spot and plenty of football. On top of this we generally play an attractive style of attacking football and have a squad containing players like Modric, VdV and Bale who are well-known and admired right across Europe.
Hazard could well see Spurs as a very good fit for him: the chance to develop further and play regularly alongside some very good footballers in a team that's on the up.
He's already ruled out the two Spanish giants because he doesn't want to risk spending a lot of time on the bench, and he may well rule out Man. City for the same reasons.
Apart from Man. Utd who does that leave? One of either Arsenal or Chelsea (or even possibly both) look like missing out on a CL spot for next season and Serie A is not a very attractive destination these days, nor is the Bundesliga.
Man. Utd spent a lot of money last summer - are you ready to spend another big wedge without first selling one or two of your more sellable player assets? But Spurs have spent very little for some time now (a net spend of just 8m spread over the last 5 windows), so we could certainly afford to spend big on Hazard without needing to sell Bale or Modric first.
And Hazard may well look at Man. Utd and have similar concerns about bench time as per Barca and RM, albeit on a lesser scale.
He's young, with plenty of time ahead in his career, so it wouldn't be a great surprise if he sees Spurs as the best next step.
All good points but I'm still sceptical whether he'll sign for Spurs or not. There's already a bit of uncertainty regarding Harry next summer plus it's very much possible that Modric again kicks off a fuss to leave and not to forget that you guys will need to save as much as possible for the new stadium.
As I said if Hazard comes to English football, then I would like to see him at Spurs(after Manchester United ofcourse) but I still don't think he'll sign for Spurs.
As regarding the financial status of us, I don't have much information on that but the club has shown that if a young talent is available, we'll spend money on him to capture.
Good post.
He will go to Real, there is no chance of him going to Spurs.
In fact i can see both Modric & Bale leaving this summer..
In fact i can see both Modric & Bale leaving this summer..
Why is it that every person on this place automatically says a top young talent will go to Real? Contrary to popular belief they don't actually sign every single wonderkid out there. Given the squad they have he probably would struggle to get a look in. The same can't be said for the top 4 English clubs, though us and City would be harder to break into than Spurs and Arse.
I think he's far more likely to go to an English club. I really wouldn't be surprised if he picked Spurs seeing as they're pretty much guaranteed the CL next season. Glaston made a lot of good points above.
I can definitely see Hazard going to Spurs
But at the same time, I definitely see Bale getting some serious interest from Real Madrid and Barcelona, probably City as well
I'd love for us to be in for him, but I think we won't enter that particular dick-waving competition
Good decision Hazard. Go join our feeder club!!!! lol.. I think him moving to Spurs would be a good signing for the 'EPL'.
He may sign for Spurs if no one else is interested or willing to stump up the asking price.
That is the only way. If any of Real/Chelski/United/City or Arse are interested he will choose one of them were he will be guaranteed CL football for the coming seasons, title challenges and a bigger payday.
Modric I am sure will leave. History shows you can keep a player for a season against his wishes but not longer realistically. He will sign for Chelsea or United and it will be for a handsome fee I am sure...
That is the only way. If any of Real/Chelski/United/City or Arse are interested he will choose one of them were he will be guaranteed CL football for the coming seasons, title challenges and a bigger payday.
Modric I am sure will leave. History shows you can keep a player for a season against his wishes but not longer realistically. He will sign for Chelsea or United and it will be for a handsome fee I am sure...
Looks likely he will be Premiership bound this summer. He seems confident that the big clubs are interested (which I suppose would be obvious if you're that good!)
From that ESPN link...
"There are several clubs that interest me in England and Arsenal is really a part," Hazard told Foot Sport magazine. "Of course, it's always more fun when the football is beautiful. In addition, at Arsenal, there is a French coach and French players, as well as my compatriot Thomas Vermaelen."
Though Hazard's next club remains unclear, the Belgian playmaker again declared his preference for a switch to the Premier League from the reigning Ligue 1 champions.
"That's the championship where I think I can express myself better," said Hazard. "Where I can learn more, too. It's difficult to explain why, it's a question of feeling.
"The level of the matches, the atmosphere in the stadiums, this is still well above anything I've experienced so far in France and that attracts me. And I know many people in England - this is another added attraction."
He will go for around £30m I imagine. The going rate for potentially worldclass players with years on their side...
Hope we go for him. My money is on Rentboys though...
From that ESPN link...
"There are several clubs that interest me in England and Arsenal is really a part," Hazard told Foot Sport magazine. "Of course, it's always more fun when the football is beautiful. In addition, at Arsenal, there is a French coach and French players, as well as my compatriot Thomas Vermaelen."
Though Hazard's next club remains unclear, the Belgian playmaker again declared his preference for a switch to the Premier League from the reigning Ligue 1 champions.
"That's the championship where I think I can express myself better," said Hazard. "Where I can learn more, too. It's difficult to explain why, it's a question of feeling.
"The level of the matches, the atmosphere in the stadiums, this is still well above anything I've experienced so far in France and that attracts me. And I know many people in England - this is another added attraction."
He will go for around £30m I imagine. The going rate for potentially worldclass players with years on their side...
Hope we go for him. My money is on Rentboys though...
Arsenal cant afford him, chelsea bound imo.
Chelsea can't afford him with FFP. Announced £65 million losses just a few weeks back. Doubt whether they will get into a CL place. He'll cost £30 million and with the amount of players they need, I don't think they will stump up that cash for one player.
Drogba, Kalou and Boswinga are all out of contract this summer. Malouda, Cole, Lampard, Ferreira will all be entering there final years. So it's hardly likely they can get cash from players leaving, unless they sell one of the younger team members for big cash, but you look at that Chelsea squad, and I don't think many of them would fetch huge sums.
Drogba, Kalou and Boswinga are all out of contract this summer. Malouda, Cole, Lampard, Ferreira will all be entering there final years. So it's hardly likely they can get cash from players leaving, unless they sell one of the younger team members for big cash, but you look at that Chelsea squad, and I don't think many of them would fetch huge sums.
Not only they cannot afford him but I don't think he'd be interested in joining a crumbling house.Hazard is Lille's best talent of easily the last 10 years.
He will not leave for less than £30.000.000 IMHO
Yeah, didnt think of that. both of you are correct here. They need to work on other areas of the squad. unlikely to make a move for him.
What does it leave in the PL though? Arsenal cant afford him. Leaves just us and City. dont see either going for him while you hear reports about him being PL bound.
He wants to join Arsenal who are in a worse spot than Chelsea, right?
That could be true with the FFP situation but think about it this way. Lets say City, Madrid, Bayern and Chelsea have this problem. Are the UEFA really going to stop them from playing and lessen the competition? Will people like it? Is it good for the footballing world?
Arsenal are (mostly was) seen by many the most talented Ligue 1 players as the club to help them develop as players thanks to Arsene Wenger and the contingent of french players.However in the last two seasons specially Arsenal have lost a lot of its charisma, we know the many reasons why.
Hazard mentioned Arsenal as a good club (and it is tbh) but I just don't see him going there.He was tipped by many to leave Lille last year but he decided to stay for one more year and it was intelligent from him, he seems like someone who wants to build a solid and intelligent career by making the right choices.
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