You made the player power mention, and I'm asking what about any of our current situation hinges on or translates to player power?
Erik ten Hag - Manchester United manager
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You made the player power mention, and I'm asking what about any of our current situation hinges on or translates to player power?
Maybe the plan was to turn all EtH outers into being for him to stay. This has gone on so long with other candidates taking other jobs and rejecting that it seems like we are just better off keeping ETH now.
it’s a complete shitshow and unfortunately it can get even worse if we decide to appoint Southgate.
it’s a complete shitshow and unfortunately it can get even worse if we decide to appoint Southgate.
Nah, there drawing up a brand new contract for him and rightly so, we are on the brink of something big with ETH.
With LVG, he was sacked right after the FA cup win, because he missed top4, our standards were higher back then, or we already had Mourinho lined up even before LVG was sacked(strange because we lost 4th on gd if I remember right, or we were close to City).
Now, we either don't have a replacement for ETH(amateurish to say the least) or if the board still want him, say it out loud, give him another year at least we know.
If we, by any chance, are waiting on Southgate it must be a mental decision, I might just don't care anymore.
I think we should hire Ten Hag.
Oh we already did!
Oh we already did!
So, Southgate plans to quit England if they don't win the Euro's... Oh Dear God, this is happening, isn't it... Please God, please, just not him.
Stop crying over hypotheticals you've made in your head.
While every day that goes by obviously makes this feel closer, it seems very unlikely. England can't really be officially eliminated until at least the 2nd match day, which is June 20th.
I don't think they're going to wait another week and a half to decide anything, especially as he can't sign anything and could easily decide not to take the job.
England will probably get out of the group anyway, so you're looking at a longer wait then than that for Southgate. If they don't make it out the group, then hiring him would be even more of a PR disaster. The only way they could justify his appointment would be winning England's first trophy since 1966, but the final isn't until 14th July.
It just doesn't add up. If the reports about moving on from other candidates is true, then it seems most likely that EtH will stay, at least at the moment.
The players are right behind him and want him to stay. A few have said this publicly too.
No it isn’t, it’s been drummed up by the media because Ashworth has worked with him in the past.
Ya the Southgate story needs to die . Absolute no substance to it
The ever looming specter of Sir Waistcoat all season if he stays on will be sickening...
That new INEOS era is off to a smashingly impressive start!
A quick look at Paddy Power
Next United Manager top3:
- Poch 10/3
- Tuchel 7/2
- Southgate 4/1
Ten Hag to manage first day of the season:
- Yes 11/10
- No 4/7
So basically no one has a fecking clue what is going on (you can still donate money to Paddy Power and back Hansi Flick at 25/1).
I'll be honest, I think Ten Hag is going to stay, as that's the only logical explanation. The available options are awful in comparison and surely INEOS appreciate that the fans want to see good football, something that Southgate literally doesn't do, even with the world's greatest attacking depth at his disposal.
Next United Manager top3:
- Poch 10/3
- Tuchel 7/2
- Southgate 4/1
Ten Hag to manage first day of the season:
- Yes 11/10
- No 4/7
So basically no one has a fecking clue what is going on (you can still donate money to Paddy Power and back Hansi Flick at 25/1).
I'll be honest, I think Ten Hag is going to stay, as that's the only logical explanation. The available options are awful in comparison and surely INEOS appreciate that the fans want to see good football, something that Southgate literally doesn't do, even with the world's greatest attacking depth at his disposal.
Dont worry Erik your not the only one growing frustrated at the clubs terrible handling of this situation.
INEOS handling of this so far has been disgraceful.
INEOS handling of this so far has been disgraceful.
Sounds like we're getting a decision this week.
Probably. Maybe. Maybe not. Could be next week as well for all we know. Maybe not. Who knows.
At this point United fans should not be giving that journalist any time of day. He clearly has no idea what is going on and is probably frustrated himself.
He definitely has no insights at United.
All getting pretty pathetic at this point. The Glazers would have hired De Zerbi by now, and leaked they would spend big to correct the season by now 
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I really hope it's more secrecy and less indecisiveness, that is the reason for all this.
.I really hope it's more secrecy and less indecisiveness, that is the reason for all this.
This fecking debacle that INEOS has brought on themselves, is making the preseason/start of the new season and this new "INEOS", (for me) pretty annoying and skeptical towards their actual capabilities to run a huge club like MU.
It is but Burt doesn't know anything like the rest of them.
With the shitshow squad, having to get rid of players and an budget of supposedly only £35m not to mention almost zero control over anything I think managers are walking away rather than us passing them up... beginning to dread that we will be stuck with the useless baldy for another season by default
Which one, Joel or Avram?
Yeah but no, I don't think Burt has a direct link into EtH's brain. What other clubs are making huge inroads transfer wise so far? There's international comps on, it's going to be slow no matter who the manager is, especially when we have to shift a fair few.
You're only getting frustrated because the press are telling you to be. Do yourself a favour and log off to just focus on things other than football, at least until the Euros/Copa America starts.
As much as I'm eth out I believe this is worse than the lvg treatment!
The delay in sacking ETH is partly a cosmetic PR exercise. INEOS made it known before the cup final he was getting sacked regardless of the result but when he won it in some style they didn't want to piss off the fans by doing a van Gaal. Hence the delay.
Secondly they need to announce the new manager pretty much straight away to deal with the backwash of hostility sacking ETH will generate from those who think he was the right guy in the wrong club. Finding said new manager isn't proving easy because they need a yes man who will accept very limited resources, will have no say on transfers and will get scapegoated out of the nearest window minus their reputation this time next year when he doesn't outperform. Unsurprisingly nobody credible is that keen.
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Because there's very little of the heart left to operate on, it's done. Time to call it.
Seriously though I get what you're saying and I don't disagree we need new blood. But the poster I was replying to was talking as if there hasn't already been huge turnover in the squad. There has, it's virtually a new squad. Now it might not be good enough but the majority of the current players weren't in the squad 2 years ago.
Maybe we're trying to convince FDJ to manage us.
It simply doesn't add up now, either we're being kept waiting by a candidate/ETH or there's some kind of date hurdle we have to get past for financial/legal reasons. It'll all come out eventually then we can judge if our new leadership are idiots.
It simply doesn't add up now, either we're being kept waiting by a candidate/ETH or there's some kind of date hurdle we have to get past for financial/legal reasons. It'll all come out eventually then we can judge if our new leadership are idiots.
That's overlooking the very huge and necessary change that the manager will no longer determine the style of play, the style of play will determine the manager. So yes the manager will have a say but ultimately the purchases can proceed without his approval. And if he kicks back too much he gets sacked.
Yes, we got rid of alot of players, we just didnt replace them with quality, which is the reason we always have to go back to the heart surgeon every season.
We need to build a squad, which we are seeing signs of with Licha, Dalot, Mainoo, Amad, Garnacho, Hojlund. We need to stop getting short term deals for first teamers like Evans, Ambrabat, Casemiro, Eriksen, Weghorst.
If we signed good young players this summer in CB, CM, ST, then we can say, yes our squad is beginning to take shape now.
I blame the fanbase suddenly going from wanting him out to foaming at the mouth at the suggestion due to the FA cup win
One of INEOS’s first major decisions since taking over and they’re making a right pigs ear of it.
Only if they get it wrong. If whoever they decide on ends up being successful then it won't matter how long they take to actually make this decision.
It is because that was done quickly if in a not very nice way. This is hanging somebody out to dry.
Erm no I wasn't, when I was talking about open heart surgery - I wasn't just talking about players in or out.
IMO Ralph wasn't talking about just that. I did say we need to buy 4/5 players - but that comment was never just about the squad it was about the culture and the mentally as well.
Nah, i'm not overlooking it, it's just completely irrelevant to the "yes man" debate as they'll pick someone to fit the style of play, they won't hire someone that stands for the complete opposite and then tell him to change.
Long story short, Ineos have completely fecked it and are a bunch of clueless ditherers
If you were Sir Gareth of Southgate would you really say yes to the job knowing 99% of the fanbase don't want you? I know I wouldn't.
Would be amazing if they did go for him and he said " No fecking chance, are you mad"?
Would be amazing if they did go for him and he said " No fecking chance, are you mad"?