It is always safe to bet on Max winning and getting FL.
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Imagine if McLaren hadn't had that shocking start
Urgh.
Gotta hope Alonso doesn’t get a penalty then at least I have Alonso Perez and Max in the right place.
Gotta hope Alonso doesn’t get a penalty then at least I have Alonso Perez and Max in the right place.
I only have Max in the right place... deary me
How is it possible that Mclaren improved so much? They were literally the worst car in the first race of the season, and shite in next few races too, and they are second best car 10 races after. How is it possible that no one else caught them and copied what they did? And what exactly did they do?
The car they raced with at the start of this season was last seasons car. The car they have now is what they should of had at Bahrain.
Copied Red Bull.
But if you cast your mind back to March 2022 it was only McLaren and Red Bull that went with pull-rod suspension. And maybe that's made it easier for them to effectively copy.
Piastri comes across as very likable, wasn't sure about him after the Alpine situation but have really warmed to him
AM has really fallen considering how they started the season.
They think Perez got 3 penalties this race 
Oscar
Norris: Whose fault was that?
Max: Lewis..
Max: Lewis..
Apparently Ocon threw up in his helmet in lap 15.
They should let them change out those hot suits before doing the podium they'd still be in team kit
Yeah thought the same when McLaren went through that whole mess but it looks like it was worth it for both parties.
3 or 4?They think Perez got 3 penalties this race
It'll be interesting to see how much Haas move forward when they bring their RB inspired car next race.
They all looked fecked there before going on the podium, Logan Sargeant didn't look too good either when he was trying to get out of his car.
I didn't realise they changed the entire car.
Yeah, if their suspension was similar to Red bull, then it was easier to copy the aerodynamics.
@United Hobbit yojre either about to leap me or it’ll be very very close! Congrats 
@United Hobbit yojre either about to leap me or it’ll be very very close! Congrats
I think I was 3 points off, they haven't updated it yet I keep checking
Well it's not fair to say that since Aston literally has one of the most important people who designed Red Bull and they went copy route mid last season and it went terribly wrong. You simply have to give credit to McLaren because they deserved it.
Basically McLaren raced non competitive car in first races because they figured the way they want to go to late in needed extra time to develop it. Zac Brown said as much at the start of the season.
The jump seems extraordinary simply because of how bad the car at the start of the season was because they didn't wanted to waste any more time or resources on it.
They went the copy route earlier but from a worse position because of a different suspension system.
And you'd hardly say it went terribly wrong, still massive gains on where they were in 2022. The problem with AM is they went backwards in mid season development and were cheeky with flexible wings that backfired on them when the rules were updated.
McLaren probably have the second best aerodynamicists on the grid after Red Bull. That's what being out in the wilderness with shit engines will do for you.
Whereas Ferrari and Mercedes are always reliant on having the best engines and are mediocre on aero.
Watching Sky just now was a bit unusual. A lot of Lewis defending and trying to minimize it ("one of the best at wheel to wheel racing", "he basically never makes mistakes like that" etc.) Dont get me wrong - I think it's good Lewis apologized ,media trained or not, and Sky by doing that maybe taking some online vitriol's winds out of people's sails - I just hope they ll offer the same courtesy the next time a driver does something like it that they may not like as much.
Another day of breaking multiple records for Max.
Think he also managed the Grand Chelem as the lap Albon led he pitted so Max probably passed the line first and technically led that lap also.
Other than that that race looked brutal for the drivers. Most of them where fecked after the race.
Think he also managed the Grand Chelem as the lap Albon led he pitted so Max probably passed the line first and technically led that lap also.
Other than that that race looked brutal for the drivers. Most of them where fecked after the race.
I think he and Alonso have earned the right to still be called good at wheel to wheel racing by now even if they make a mistake. It's getting on for 20 years!
He is really bad at wheel to wheel driving, so many crashes. Just usually he puts other drivers out of the race and this time he was the one going off.
Yeah McLaren really went all in on this rev. B car and it paid off. Kudos to them. So far they seem a very likeable team as well. I've said it before if I had to pick a favourite team now excluding Max of course it would be McLaren hands down. Two great drivers who both seem to be great characters in their own right though very different, a historic brand, love the colours as a Dutchman as well
Second would be Aston. But that's just because of the brand (love their road cars) and Alonso. Just dislike both Strolls.
"Lando Norris has told various media outlets that some of the drivers fainted in the medical center after today's race"
ESPN
ESPN
Did you see the clip of Stroll getting out of his car? He could barely walk and stumbled into the side of an ambulance.
Just seen the race, unusal mistake from hamilton, 100% his fault.
The trackside conditions for the drivers sound horrendous.
Perez being lapped by verstappen is just embaressing. Cant recall someone driving such a great car so badly before.
The trackside conditions for the drivers sound horrendous.
Perez being lapped by verstappen is just embaressing. Cant recall someone driving such a great car so badly before.
Multiple drivers have ended up in the medial centre after this race but money talks etc.. so let's racing in the desert.
You could see it in every drivers face even since Sat, they rather not be there, it all looked so artificial and forced.
A paltry 12 superbru points for me
How the hell did I end up with 13 points, well happy with that.
They do normally suck up to him tbh. They don't really ask tough questions in general though, aside from Nico who I think is great. He basically asked Horner "Why has Perez been crap all weekend?" a few races ago.
Albon and Gasly spring to mind. I honestly think there's something up at Red Bull. Their 2nd choice underperforms no matter what.
was it just absurdly hot ?
Lewis Hamilton was fined £21,640 (€25,000) following a trip to the stewards in the aftermath of the Qatar Grand Prix with the seven-time world champion placed under investigation for crossing the circuit.
Hamilton found himself in trouble on the opening lap of the race when he got a better launch than his Mercedes team-mate, sending it around the outside of George Russell without success.
The 38-year-old made contact after squeezing Russell, sending him spinning into the gravel and out of the race at the first corner. This was when the incident that is under investigation took place.
With the race under safety car conditions and Hamilton out of his vehicle in the gravel trap, he crossed the circuit to get back to the pit lane, falling foul of the regulations in the process.
Hamilton found himself in trouble on the opening lap of the race when he got a better launch than his Mercedes team-mate, sending it around the outside of George Russell without success.
The 38-year-old made contact after squeezing Russell, sending him spinning into the gravel and out of the race at the first corner. This was when the incident that is under investigation took place.
With the race under safety car conditions and Hamilton out of his vehicle in the gravel trap, he crossed the circuit to get back to the pit lane, falling foul of the regulations in the process.