"People who are getting really angry about this season are weird."
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Now that final season 8 was some way to ruin a tv show
The first season is one of the best shows ever made.
The acting yeah, the story yeah but the conclusion ruined it all for me. I cannot put it up there
They are!
Going off on a tangent here but I don't you think you can compare being irritated about a television series which was entirely focussed on detective work (the clue is in the title) that made such a laughable bollox of solving the mystery at the heart of the show with people getting wound up because characters they didn't want to die ended up getting killed, or the "wrong" character killed another character, or things happened too quickly, or whatever else the feck has wound people up about this season of GoT.
Hang on, people are seriously comparing the ending to a fantasy TV show, to true detective? now I've seen it all.
Eh, Pogue, you made the comparison, not me.
You're saying people can't get irritated that a show they've spent eight years watching ended in a really shite way, but it's ok for you to get irritated at a limited series ending in a shite way? How strange.
Name one pair of dragon tits that we saw in the show? Exactly, point to Pidgy.
What about the theory that Drogon has carried her off to take her to the other red woman, and she will return as an undead dragon queen?
In a few years (when everyone has gotten over this shit), in the form of a movie trilogy..
In a few years (when everyone has gotten over this shit), in the form of a movie trilogy..
They need to go anime, it would be much better and less of a headache budget wise
the detective element of True Detective was secondary to Rust and Cohle's relationship, and Cohle's demons. that first season is damn legendary. i can forgive the detective leap in the final episode.
What was Arya riding off on a horse all about last week? did she literally just take it around the corner?
I agree with regards to the dialogue and story at times. Even some of the fckin characters were shite. But, i guarantee you see it more with more platforms available. Venting and critiquing happens more than actually enjoying (and its not just GoT).
Im not even saying its a bad thing, but its just the way it is.
But Avengers is another which gets critiqued (Endgame). Its very every single point is scrutinised to see if it holds up.
I had so much enjoyment from ep3 of this last series, but others didnt because they were assessing how the guards were lined up and battle plans and all. Thats fine, we are who we are.
I guess its the nature of the beast.
Drogon ate it since he’d toasted everything else OR one of those many Dothraki took it. You know those ones who were hiding and didn’t get completely wiped out by the NK
I prefer to think he buried her then went back and burnt Kings landing fully to the ground this time including Bran and his council.
After that he went to Jon who he now protects
Imagine it was all WesterosWorld
They’re all robots and animatronics
They’re all robots and animatronics
Should have had a scene with Ghost riding Drogon.
They'll do anything to justify in their minds this season.
Westworld new season should market itself as season4.
Venting and critiquing is part of modern society, we just have to accept it. It concerns movies, music and sports.
I think for every Dothraki and Unsullied that die, another two are generated somewhere else.... it's sort of like how my annual leave situation works in my head.
Yes, bizarre argument. People being angry or pissed at a show they have invested more time in is more understandable than over a single move or a short limited series.
Again, avengers did not face the same backlash as GoT did. Because GoT this season was genuinely terrible as it was in S7. I loved Ep3. I've seen it twice already and will be one of my favourite episodes of the show - but ep5 and ep6 cant be defended. Its needs to be criticized the same way Uniteds performance against Cardiff. Justly and harshly.
You create an intricate tapestry of a storyline and have people obsess over foreboding and then complain about people nitpicking when you feck it up? Naah, you live by the sword and you die by it.
I know, as I said im not disagreeing with it. (matchday thread are good examples of it)
I just think theres more platforms now, so more will be scrutiny and more time spent on trying to be a critic than to enjoy.
I think what also makes people more angry at GoT is that the writers had the option of making more seasons but instead chose to end it in the rushed manner that they did.
(at least I think this is the case?)
(at least I think this is the case?)
This is the number 1 reason for the rushed ending yes. In hindsight HBO should have fecked them off, replaced them with a team of writers and done another 2 seasons.
I think it's quite telling that the people who have been vehemently defending this season have now only downgraded their opinion to the last episode being "ok".
I don't think they could - D&D own the rights to the show and not HBO - or some shit like that.
I'm sure there could have been a work around though - keeping D&D on as executive producers/writers or something... but who knows.
No it didnt and ill agree with what you said. But it still went through the phase of criticising. A movie and a sports game will have different types of it but still go through it. A tv show (esp a finale) is harder to correct as theres no going back. A movie may be a one off or a culmination but you can still do more connected to it.
Expectations also add to this (but thats to be expected too). I have no issues with any of it by the way. Its why I enjoy coming on this thread, its fun to see the differing opinions (except when people insult others for having different opinions).
I really do hope we get a few more shows that capture everybodys imagination like this one has and can discuss on here.
I feel like we got cheated out of two massive scenes. The immediate reaction of Sansa & Arya learning about John's heritage & the aftermath of Danaery's death. Lazy writing, it's very seldom in and tv show a time jump works out well. Roll on to the books I guess.
Not even hindsight, I remember at the time people saying why cut it down to 13 when theres so much left to do. But then after s7, everybody thought, ok they rushed that so s8 wouldnt be rushed. But then yeah, there was still rush towards the finish line.
The person who said it felt rushed at times but also dragged at times, during same episodes, is correct. As I said, overall I had so much fun. It could have been better though (and if the two didnt want to keep it going, they should have given somebody else the chance whilst they add themselves as consultant and then work on other projects).
All ifs and buts now.
Found it a very unsatisfying ending. All fizzled out for me at the end, which is a shame.
Wait wot? The show runners decided they WANTED it to end quickly as opposed to taking some more time to draw it to a close? I thought it would be something like budget reasons or what not. That's really dumb then. I sort of accepted the rushed ending as a time constraint, but if it's a voluntary decision it doesn't really make sense.
Why did they want to rush it?
Why did they want to rush it?
They probably put that in there to see if anyone would over analyse it, to gage the expectations of fans and to see if they would look for massive convoluted meanings out of little things. And then when everyone started talking about how it represented death because it's a pale horse they probably thought "yeah, these people are nuts".
so they could run along and make their big dollah Star Wars trilogy.
Oi, I have a name... I thought we had something...
I think when the original announcement came, a lot of people still had trust that these guys had a plan, knew what they were doing and could appropriately finish the show within 13 episodes... especially as, in all the 10 episodes seasons, some of the episodes have just been mainly filler/character padding (though having said that, that's also a lot of the stuff that people grasp onto)
However, looking at it now, I can't see anyway that D&D genuinely thought that 13 episodes was enough to adequately tell this story to its fullest.
The writers need to work on Star Wars in a few months.
Because they badly want to get started on the KOTOR trilogy, make two films from it and bail on the last one because they've found another project like an ADHD kid in a room full of toys.
Meh.
They do seem like a good fit though. Dany's ending is very Anakin-y to me. Difference being in this case Obi Wan actually killed him in that duel before he could be crowned Darth Vader / Mad Queen.