So true.
Gareth Bale is...The most expensive player ever?!
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So true.
You mean like Arsenal have been playing under Wenger? Too much elegance and not efficient enough!?
This, a thousand times.
How is Bale not effective? Hes a winger with almost a goal every other game.
He's effective, not effective enough to merit talk of a £50m transfer and to be labelled world class.
I don't know who compiled that but top 11 productive players in the premier league so far this season.
I don't know who compiled that but top 11 productive players in the premier league so far this season.
Doesn't surprise me.
He'll go on to another level if and when he moves and teams aren't two man marking him and setting up to counter him so much.
That much is obvious.
is this the latest myth? that teams go all out to stop him? My eyes must be playing tricks on me when he's sprinting forward in acres of room.
It's easier said than done though isn't it. I highly doubt Chris Hughton said the other week "yeah, we are okay to let Bale run with it from his own half, he'll never score from there". Or most other managers "show him onto his right foot, he'll never score with his right".
If you think it's a myth that teams would set up to stop a teams biggest threat then I don't know where to start.
Hughton probably said to his players afterwards "Why didn't one of you tackle him? I'd rather you didn't let players run in to the box and shoot, it's kind of the opposite of what I want to see"
Yes, we can offer £30m + for Lucas or Hazard, but an extra £5m/£10m for Bale would break us. We could never afford that out of £110m profits - after all we have to pay almost £30m in interest payments.
I doubt it, since he'd already seen Bale breeze past four of his defenders on a previous run with the ball to the byline. Everyone one of them would have tackled him if they could have.
Exactly. How much were we prepared to pay for Lucas Moura, £35m or something fecking crazy? For someone who is completely unproven in general football nevermind the Premier League. We always have had the money and wages for a big transfer when a world class player comes on the market and is interested, as the RVP one showed.
Tettey tried to hack him down and gave him a big whack, but this "diver" stayed on his feet and went on to score. What was he playing at?
If SAF wants him, I think that we have a great chance of getting him. RVP, who is one of the best strikers to ever play the game wanted us this summer, over moneybags and PL champions City.
You would think that people would have more confidence in our ability to being top players in.
This.
Woah, easy there with the praise.
that phrase sort of summed up how starry eyed people get when talking about their favourite players. Sums the thread up really
If you take out the injuries and concentrate on his ability and individual performances in his Arsenal days, RVP is definitely up there with the best strikers to play the game. He's never really suffered with form, it's the injuries that hampered him.
If he went to us, Madrid or Barca instead of Arsenal and steered clear of injuries, he'd be swimming in trophies by now. For a player of his ability, he should have a feck load more honours at 29 years of age.
There are the hypothesis you mentioned (him winning a lot more trophies, staying clear of injuries etc etc ...) and there is the reality that RVP isn't even the best striker in the world never mind one of the best ever to play the game.
No. Just no. Go to the all time draft thread. See the other strikers there. think of all the players who should have been picked instead of him. And just think a bit.
Fair enough, it's a far fetched comment. But my point still stands in regards to us having the ability to sign top players when we really want them.
I'm with you, without the injuries and at a bigger club he would be one of the greats of this generation.
Oh so he's gonna cost us £35m is he?
Aaaah ok.
I seem to remember this being Daniel Levy, the guy who will fleece as much pennies from any fcuker willing to do business, or else the deals off. This, coupled with the fact Bale is the hottest talent he has ever had makes you sound ridiculous. Levy probably thinks Bales the new Ronaldo and will be holding out for £50 at the absolute minimum.
When was the last time United ever spent anything like that in the transfer market? Answer: never. Even city haven't gone to that extent. The only club dumb enough to spend that kind of cash on one player is Chelsea, and look how that turned out.
£30/35 million at an absolute push. Those are our superstar prices, the type signing we acquire once every 5+ years. I just don't see us spending 50m MINAMUM on a player.
It's not our style, it's too risky, it goes against SAFs principles and we are not in a position to do it.
Not to mention PSG, City, Chelsea, Zenit, Anzhi and Madrid can come over the top of us with ease.
Don't let your boner for Bale blind you from the realities. Yes we have a chance of singing him, but I'd say that's more to do with who we are than what we can pay. If levy holds out for silly money, then the harsh realities of supply and demand say we won't get him.
I don't know who compiled that but top 11 productive players in the premier league so far this season.
Tables do annoy me. I'm going to pass on the notion that Podolski has been a more effective performer than Bale this season.
the only way we'll sign Bale is if he wants to come to us... a la RVP.
If he wants to leave Spurs to "follow his dream" or collect a massive paycheck then he'll be on the move to one of the sugar daddy clubs.
Heaven help us if he signs for City
If he wants to leave Spurs to "follow his dream" or collect a massive paycheck then he'll be on the move to one of the sugar daddy clubs.
Heaven help us if he signs for City
Or fecking Stevie G for that matter.
you don't think if ronnie wanted to come home this summer, that fergus wouldn't put in 50+ to get him?
Man Utd are the only team I've seen make special arrangements for Bale this season completely disrupting their game and probably throwing away two points.
If he's going to, he needs to move to a bigger club, or Spurs need to invest and become real title challengers.
In a better side he gets more space, does a lot more damage.
Come home? He lives in Madrid.
And no, I don't think SAF is the kind of manager to work like that. United and Ronaldo is in the past now. He was great for us and fetched us 80m. How old is he now anyway? 28? I wouldn't spend 50 mill on a player who would be 29 when available, especially If a large part of his game was based on speed, power and physicality, and that's not to the detriment of Ronaldo either, I am aware he has a lot more to his game.
But, this is fricking Gareth Bale, not Ronaldo. You are getting waaaay carried away here.
I don't know who compiled that but top 11 productive players in the premier league so far this season.
Is this proof that Bale isnt effective? How about comparing him with players in his positions instead of strikers. Everyone on that list except Cazorla, Mata and Gerrard play in more advanced positions than Bale.
Gerrard has been very good this season.
And not only this. What about his defensive contributions compared to most of the players in that list? And if his assists this season are to be used as negative evidence against him, what about his many assists last season? And what about the chances he creates for others that not have not been converted into goals?
Bale is a very good player. He's not worth £50mil. We're never, ever going to buy him.
Bizarrely he gets a hell of a lot more hype than the above mentioned.
Mata, in particular, is incredibly underhyped. Even when Chelsea were playing well, he was barely mentioned outside of media relating to specific matches.
Walcott, too, in a way. Obviously there's a lot spoken and written about him, but it's about England and Arsenal and his position and his contract, not about how good he is. There's been very little raving about how good he's been this season compared to the mounds of hyperbole about Bale.
Brightonian is right. Bale, terrific player he may be, is hyped to the point where we just can't afford him...or better put, will not be willing to pay the same amount another suitor might be willing to play. He's one to watch for the next decade, but it won't be in a red shirt.
Call me crazy, but I really do see the triumphant return of Ronaldo, who would more than justify the massive fee it would take to bring him back.
Then we have Zaha. I can't offer an informed opinion about him, but the scouting reports are very positive.
So no, I really don't see Bale ever playing for us. A shame perhaps, but it's more his loss than ours.