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Gay Marriage
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Thanks to this thread, I'm getting ads on the caf for club torso gay bungalows, apparently Gran Canaria's favourite gay resort.
See what happens when you vote yes???
See what happens when you vote yes???
Good cover, blame Redcafe.
Little surprised it wasn't higher than 62% or 63% really. But the main thing is it won, which is great.
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I'm getting peptobismol ads!
Priest-ridden still.Wtf happened in roscommon?
Odd ones out or what!
Are you sure it's just because of this thread in your internet history?
Hated the public displays of affection around the vote today. The news kept showing some old lezzers snogging and then some burly gays. Not trying to rain on anyone's parade and find it equally unpleasant watching a mate snog his bird or whatever. All a bit much. Like to keep my own business behind closed doors.
Kind of goes for anyone to be fair. Nobody likes a bloke and his girlfriend wearing the head off each other in public either.
Agreed, although I was drinking with colleagues in Vauxhall on Friday and at one point it looked he was he was going to full on nail her in the park, and she was fit.
Yeah, but to be fair there's a bit of 'we couldn't this - now we can' euphoria. After a week it'll be back to OTT PDAs are uncool.
Aye true, but the news was majoring on it. Fair play to these folk who now feel less repressed, but I just don't feel the need to view it in my living room. As you say, they'll move on to a new story soon enough.
More then likely "De Gea goes to Madrid" news :/
That or "Brucey wins as LVG goes back to the drawing board"
Both extremely plausible
A pretty damning verdict of rural Ireland by a resident of rural Ireland.
Same here, makes a change from russian brides and mature dating adverts I suppose.
I'm from rural ireland and would argue that's pretty much the same in most rural areas in most countries.A pretty damning verdict of rural Ireland by a resident of rural Ireland.
Saying that, there were plenty of my neighbours voting yes. There's a way of thinking rearing it's head that's it's urban v rural, modern thinking v bigoted religious farmers and it's not fair. There are plenty of urban areas as much, if not more, bigoted than the culchies so to speak.
The fact of the matter is only one county had no as a majority and that was very close, every single other voted yes
Things have come a long way in rural Ireland too
Things have come a long way in rural Ireland too
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Displays of affection are pretty common everywhere in times of celebration. Just watch a new year countdown anywhere in the world and you'll have all the couples kissing.
This certainly was a far more celebration worthy reason for gay people (and everyone else in fact) than a random bump in the calendar.
Obviously I don't condone them invading your living room. Whoever did that were idiots.
I put my foot through the TV and I've sent the bill to Channel 4's head of news.Also, on the idea of a generational divide, if no one under 26 had voted it would still have passed.
I'm 36 and I think my parents generation were the first to see through the bullshit of the church, I wasn't overly surprised to see the attitudes of lots of pensioners. These are the people who faced the laundries, the abuse etc, they're not very vocal but they were perceived as the core support for the church in Ireland.
I'm not to sure what way it was in other parishes in the lead up to the referendum but the priest in my parish wasn't encouraging anyone to vote no, in fact he was more or less in a round about way saying there'd be nothing wrong with voting yes. The priest in rural Ireland is still a powerful man and mass goers will listen to him. I think no more than rural Ireland that the church as come a long way as well in recent times. The church are even acknowledging that they are going to have to change certain things. Not many religions in the world where that would happen.
A friend of ours witnessed a priest not only telling people to vote no but actually leading old folks in to the voting stations
The bible does state (on numerous occasions) that having a homosexual relationship is a forbidden act. With this in mind, it doesn't surprise me in the least bit that priests would do this.
The trouble is, opinions are like arseholes, everyone's got one! Personally I say let bygones be bygones. If gay people want to marry each other then good luck to them. But I also wouldn't condemn a religious person for living to their beliefs either.
It's always temping to take the piss out them though. I bet that priest was wearing two different types of fabric while trying to hold the gays down.
Or he defended someone who fecked a kid. Who knows?
Possible. I suspect the catholic church has done way more damage to children than gay marriage ever will.
That's a different story altogether though mate. Those priests are paedophiles and deserve to be taken to fecking pieces like every other nonce case in the world!
The bible also says, let he who is without sin cast the first stone and judge not lest ye be judged. I think I'm right in saying that it does not say just because you have confessed your sins to the priest and been absolved you are free to man the rockery or the wagging finger of admonition and have at those who choose to live a life of sin without seeking absolution
Can't blame a Catholic priest for speaking out against gay marriage. That's pretty much what they're supposed to do.
I've got no problem with a Catholic priest preaching the rules according to Catholicism, it's when the priest or his congregation choose to impose their rules on people who choose not to live their life ruled by Catholic dogma that I think there is a problem. Just pointing out that the bible says a lot of things, including sections on not condemning others, which seem to be conveniently forgotten when the flock or the shepherd see fit.
Not sure they were imposing their view on anyone in this case, or at least no more than anyone else.
They were attempting to impose their views gay people who want to get married.
In the same way people who were pro-gay marriage tried to impose their views on them. Then we voted and decided the pro-gay people were right. That doesn't mean the anti-gay marriage people were wrong to argue their case as much as they could. Not like they were forcing people to agree with them.
No one's forcing them to get gay married.
Nobody was forcing gay people to be Catholics either.
The Catholics for almost 2000 years were.
This is the crux of the matter surely? We aren't all Catholics.
EDIT: We as people, not as gay people.
I was sort of thinking of more recent history given the vote happened last Saturday.
The catholics who want their views to be law, then.
Aye, there were Catholics who wanted their view to be law. Up to now the Irish people decided to back their views. They've now decided to back the pro-gay marriage people who wanted their view to be law instead. Neither the Catholic people or Gay marriage people were wrong to push their view as much as they could, all that matters is what the Irish people wanted.
That's a different argument from the one you originally made.