If someone bid £30m he'd be off.
Luka Modric / Signs for Real Madrid
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£30m isn't what it used to be. I doubt they'd accept that.
As I've said, a silly money offer might tempt Levy, but otherwise I doubt that he'd be interested in selling his best players to raise stadium cash ... there will be other ways and means to a new stadium.
You're honestly implying that only a 50m+ offer would get him?
How many players have gone for that or more in the last two years?
Not saying its in Levy's business plan but it might be a consideration when it comes to the crunch, anyway we will see come the summer and fair play to Spurs if they manage to hold on to all their best players. I doubt they will though.
Berbatov went for 30.75m. Add on:
* 2 years of football prices inflation (far higher than normal inflation)
* Modric's long remaining contract (far more than Berbatov had left)
* Modric's age compared to that of Berbatov when sold
* Spurs have more spare cash now than they did when Berbatov was sold (i.e. even less need for money)
* Modric will not cut up rough about leaving in the way the Berbatov did -not this summer at least.
* Spurs had not tasted CL football wth Berbatov, but now they have and the desire for a repeat is very strong: Modric is the heartbeat of the current Spurs side - needed if they want to get back into the top 4.
* Levy is not an idiot - and even financially speaking he knows that regaining CL income will yield far more than a quick profit on Modric.
Regardless of how many players have sold for 50m+, to balance up all of the above then any club would have to pay through the nose till their ears bleed if they want Modric this summer. IMO it's a market that only rich sugar-daddies would contemplate entering.
Most of your conditions applies for Fabregas as well. And even he won't go for 50 mn. Modric would be around 10-12 mn cheaper than Fabregas
In the 24-28mn bracket. Tops. I personally think United won't go for him
There's no 'logic' behind any transfer price. There are certain things that are important such as length of contract remaining etc, but like anything, comes down to how much clubs are willing to part with and accept.
As Rooney would say, "What? F***ing what?!?!"
There is no chance Spurs will sell Modric for anything under 30. If he moves it'll be for around 35m imo.
Spurs aren't gonna sell him this summer unless they receive a ridiculous offer.
Next year Harry will inevitably replace Capello and that's when some of their stars might feck off. Will be shocked if they sell any of their key players now though.
Next year Harry will inevitably replace Capello and that's when some of their stars might feck off. Will be shocked if they sell any of their key players now though.
A lot will depend on what Modric wants to do if a bid comes in, that may be the deciding factor. 35-40 million I reckon.
I wouldn't be shocked...
We bought Carrick, Berbatov... before and the players were unsettled then so I'm pretty sure if Modric wants a move, a move he will get...
BUT... I don't think he'll move at all.
We bought Carrick, Berbatov... before and the players were unsettled then so I'm pretty sure if Modric wants a move, a move he will get...
BUT... I don't think he'll move at all.
If Modric goes public and says that he wants to leave, that changes the entire scenario.
The only reason you got £30.8m for Berbatov was because City bid a British transfer record amount for him on the same day.
We had all the chips in our corner otherwise with the money at around £20m.
Nothing to say same won't happen again.
No.
History tells us players go where they want.
If he wants to leave, which he would if United made a half credible bid (see: Carrick, Berbatov), then it will happen.
That is such bollocks - genuinely.
And if it is so easy to replace players, how come Spurs haven't managed it?
You tried to replace Carrick with Zakora and that didn't work and you still haven't replaced Berbatov effectively.
What do you imagine the football-fee annual inflation rate has been over the last 2 years (what with ever higher amounts of TV money flooding into Prem clubs)? Even a conservative figure of 15%, compounded over 2 years, would turn 30.75m (Berbatov's fee) into the equivalent of 40.7m today.
And then figure in all the other factors I cited (contract length, age, etc etc) .... you're living in dreamland if you think Spurs would let Modric go for less than 50m.
As for replacing players, where did I say it was easy?
Players may often go where they want to go ... but they don't set their own sale fee and nor does the club that wishes to sign them ... especially not when a player has 5 years left on their contract.
What you may consider to be a "half credible bid" and what Levy would demand are almost certainly world's apart. Unfortunately for you, it's Levy who decides.
I think Modric has got to that point where he'd just cost too much money to be 'worth it'. I have Spurs supporting friends claiming he's the best player in the prem etc and the press (who seem to dictate the Market prices) seem to rate him very highly too.
I want to see great players at Utd but at ridiculous prices like that, I'd genuinely prefer to see the likes of Cleverley given a chance.
I want to see great players at Utd but at ridiculous prices like that, I'd genuinely prefer to see the likes of Cleverley given a chance.
Too expensive, let's buy his mate Sandro.
Spurs will only sell for a silly fee unless the player agitated for a move. They need to trim their wage bill and get money in for purchases but I doubt they want to do this by selling Modric or Bale.
I'm probably going to take a lot of stick for this, but i seriously believe he is extremely overrated and i fail to see how he could be commanding the price that is being talked about. Wesley Scneijder on the other hand, is absolutely what we need in the middle of the park.
I agree wholeheartedly with your first statement, I disagree with your second.
Players hold all the power mate.
Levy don't stand a chance if Modric decides he wants a move. Contracts hold very little value and he'd even have to compromise on the fee. It would be in the clubs interest to get rid.
And Levy has a track record of selling Spurs' players to bigger clubs.
It will be a massive blow for someone like Modric, going back and playing in the waste of time non-event Europa League.
Players that talented deserve better than that.
Hopefully Chelsea will get him, or he'll stay put.
We need a midfielder, but not one with even less bite than Carrick.
People at the moment have got a bit of a thing for midfielders who dick about and look clever on the ball, whilst almost never doing anything useful with it. I blame Wenger
We need a midfielder, but not one with even less bite than Carrick.
People at the moment have got a bit of a thing for midfielders who dick about and look clever on the ball, whilst almost never doing anything useful with it. I blame Wenger
I agree, I don't rate Modric very much*. Sneijder is far better and probably cheaper. Sneijder does everything Modric does and more.
In fairness, probably the perfect player for our current midfield is Schweinsteiger.
EDIT: * Realised that comes across as if I think he's shite - obviously he's a very talented player, but the hype around him is unreal.
We won't be buying him.
Yeah, though we've already established Bayern wont sell Schweinsteiger on account of him having a ridiculously German name and not being injured all the time.
I don't know about Sneijder. He usually plays in the hole doesn't he? If he can still be effective in a midfield two then yeah, he'd be a decent signing. Though again, it's not that likely to happen.
The thin with Modric is, he has fantastic technique and looks comfortable on the ball, but then he just goes and does nothing with it 99% of the time. He's an Arsenal midfielder in a Tottenham shirt. I don't think he'd do well at United. People would expect him to fill the same role as Scholes, but then quickly realise that while Scholes gets on the ball, and plays it forwards wth a purpose, Modric gets on the ball, and then just plays it somewhere. Him and Carrick in the same midfield would probably result in me smashing up my television.
If, and it's a big if, Modric was to come then a ball winner would play with Carrick and Modric. Just as Park plays with Giggs and Carrick in big games.
Yes I remember the Schweinsteiger / german name conundrum which means Bayern can't sell for anything less than £55,000,000 or 12,000 good quality Bierwurst sausages.He sort of plays as an attacking/creative midfielder infront of two other players yes. But, it's a myth he doesn't put a shift in and I'm sure he could play in 4-4-2 which is what we use against weaker opposition usually. He'd slot right in our European formation.
For sheer muppetry terms:
Carrick--Schweinsteiger or Fletcher-Schweinsteiger
-----Sneijder--------- -------Sneijder--------
Would be the perfect midfield.
I agree about Modric, he's an elegant player, very nice to watch full of silky passes and little clever turns. But as you say, there have been comparisons to Scholes which are mental, Modric doesn't score enough and has nowhere near the directness and penetration of Scholes.
He'd have to be a fantastic ball-winner, Fletcher at absolute best. Or Schweinsteiger.
Is it coming across that I want to sign Schweinsteiger?
Spurs just don't have the players of the calibre of United playing playing up front. As good as VDV, Crouch, Lennon and Messi are they just don't provide the same outlet as would Rooney Hernandez, Berbatov, Nani and Valencia.
Don't worry. Time of the year.
Glaston has a point - he would be pricey, no doubt. But it would be more like £35-40m max.
Ultimately, if we bid I am certain we will get himn becuase he'll want to leave and players decided where they want to play...
Ultimately, if we bid I am certain we will get himn becuase he'll want to leave and players decided where they want to play...
Is two players in 5 years a "track record"? Man. Utd sold Ronaldo - is that a track record also?
Here is an extract from Levy's end-of-season public statement today:
"This season we experienced our first venture in the Champions League and it was one which saw us reach the Quarter Final stage. We achieved this playing some of the most entertaining and exciting football of the competition - truly memorable performances.
We shall miss and all be disappointed at not qualifying for the Champions League for a subsequent year, but I know that the players will be fully focussed next season on returning us to this elite competition ....
We have spent years and hundreds of millions of pounds investing in our First Team squad and in creating a settled team. Having quality players means they automatically attract attention from other clubs - but I can assure you that we have no reason to sell, and every intention of retaining, our key players. We shall simply not entertain any approaches for these players."
Chairman's message - News Articles - Tottenhamhotspur.com
Having nailed his colours to the mast so publicly, I don't see him back-tracking .... or at least not unless a ludicrously huge bid arrives.
Basically, this whole Modric-to-United thread concerns something that is not going to happen.
Do you think Modric should be wasting his time in the embarrassment that is the Europa League, regardless of what Levy says?
Levy talks big but reality is different - look at your stadium, and how it looks further away than ever.
It's the oldest trick in a book by a chairman - say your player is not for sale under any circumstance - then sell them.
It's not nailing your colours to the mast, it's posturing.