His 20 years old. Your paying for potential. Is Fabregas only £15m better than Henderson? No. I think Chelsea will end up paying atleast £30m for him but people that are expecting £40m because of prices in January are dreaming...
Luka Modric / Signs for Real Madrid
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His 20 years old. Your paying for potential. Is Fabregas only £15m better than Henderson? No. I think Chelsea will end up paying atleast £30m for him but people that are expecting £40m because of prices in January are dreaming...
I do? My point is based on the arrival of Hernandez, so can only be based on the past year as opposed to always.
Of course we'll change formation to suit the game but primarily we stick to one during the course of the season and it looks like 442 as we've both Rooney and Hernandez who should be playing in most games.
I don't recall even mentioning Sneijder or Nasri. Where was I saying that Sneijder or Nasri (who won't be leaving Arsenal) couldn't hack it in a 2 man midfield? Their recent past has indicated that they play better in an advanced role in a midfield 3, but that doesn't mean they can't play in a central 2. Mentioning Gibson is irrelevant. Where is this obsession with 2 man midfields? It's the way we play so obviously discussion will be made with that in mind as someone who's successful in a 2 man midfield is different to someone playing with the freedom of 2 behind them, almost playing in Rooney's position.
No, in the case of Henderson they're buying for his passport. If he were French or Dutch or Serbian or whatever he wouldn't cost more than £10m.
I reckon Spurs will want 40m for him and will probably get it.
Gourcouff played in the hole, like Rooney
It was a 3. He was in midfield a fair bit and interchanged with Nasri. I think out of the 2 of them Nasri is maybe better playing from deeper, but whether he has the discipline defensively to play there in a team that plays with 2 wingers and attacking full backs is something a bit different to how he plays at Arsenal and France. I still don't think it is likely he will move this year, and Sneijder's wage demands are probably too excessive for us so I think you'll need to find a new object of desire.
I keep mentioning it, but our best form was with a 37 yr old left winger playing central midfield in a 2... why the feck does anyone think that players with the ability of Nasri or Sneijder couldn't hack it?
Nah max 35.
Giggsy has been playing centre mid for quite a while.
Has anyone said they couldn't? Or is it more that Modric, who can and does already, would be more likely to at United?
That too
Modric only started playing CM for Spuds this year, the season before everyone was posting "he can't play in a 2 man midfield".
Sunday morning papers will have us entering the race to sign Modric.
Not something that comes from the fans. In all his years of management I can't recall SAF ever having gone for a player of that type. It could happen but it seems unlikely.
£40m has nothing to do with prices paid in January, it's based on how the market is now. Like you said yourself in the market as it is now 20m only gets you potential. For proven top class talent then you're looking at least 30m, in the situation Spurs are in now though, not having to sell, for the first time in a long while with a real chance of breaking into the top 4 and staying there, then to potentially set them back 3 or 4 years then you're looking at £40m at least because in all probability that's what it would cost them to try and replace him.
People keep saying there's better players out there than Modric, if they mean that in the sense of there's better viable targets than Modric then why aren't the club being linked with them? Why's it only Modric, Sneijder and Nasri? Personally I'm of the opinion that it's because these better players dont exist or aren't viable transfer targets.
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Because the position is vastly overrated in the caf... They'll be excuses like he is not hardworking, doesn't have the legs, doesn't know how to defend is not proven in the PL etc...
I honestly hope Spurs milk Chelsea dry. I'd be livid if he goes for £25million or something.
He was definitely playing there last season too, for at least some of the season.
Oh, it's precisely why I indicated it's not just about your post, it's quite a general thing on the Caf. Every time a potential signing's name crops up we hear the big question "can he play in a two-man midfield?", as if that was something that only the most skilled, brilliant and specially trained footballers are capable of doing. It's bloody annoying, considering we had a 37-year-old winger playing that role.
It's dangerous to assume that Hernández's place in the starting line-up is a given. He might have second season syndrome, teams might figure him out, teams might exploit his tendency to stay offside, anything. We need options.
The names of Sneijder and Nasri are circulating all around the Caf, you know that, they are the "primary targets". I don't think we have the slightest chance of getting either but dismissing them - as many posters do here, not necessarily you - on the basis of the bloody 4-4-2 is incredibly stupid.
Patience, there's no point in really being linked to hype up the prices... We don't need to go into a bidding war.
I do understand your feelings but there's no point in bidding for a player who doesn't want to move to us.
Well he's not exactly been a left winger for a fair number of years, that was the point.
Is there even room for him in Chelsea's midfield? Especially to consistently succeed? how the feck would they line up?
-------Essien-----Ramires
---Modric--Lampard--Malouda
-----------Torres------------
-------Essien-----Ramires
---Modric--Lampard--Malouda
-----------Torres------------
What do you mean by that type? A player who at his previous club was mostly played as the advanced attacking midfielder behind the striker?
In that case I'll introduce Anderson to you. Not exactly his best signing, true, but not because he can't play in a bloody two man midfield.
Who would have a better midfield two in the Premier League than Modric-Carrick? Arsenal would probably be the only team who could make a case on the rare occasion that they play one.
There's a reason why papers link clubs to players though, it's not because it's factually correct it's because it sells papers
If players like Modric were ten a penny then we'd be linked with them if the interest was real or not, the fact that we're only being linked to a very limited number of players tells me that players like Modric aren't as readily available like some seem to think
That 37 year old didn't cost north of £30m and command a salary of £7m a year net to come and adapt to playing CM. Nobody is saying Sneijder can't play CM, but his talents are best suited to the classic 10 role, shelling out those sums for a makeshift CM would be a gamble and would represent feck all value for money in the long run.
We don't need Sneijder at all, Nasri on the other hand for a cut price fee would be a good bit of business and he's shown enough potential at Arsenal as a CM in Cesc's absence that he could develop into a top CM should Wenger/his next club give him a consistent run in that position. I don't think he'll rock up here though sadly.
I think Fergie would love Modric here but when a player wants to remain in a certain place geographically, there's nothing you can do about it. Responding to that by splurging cash for the sake of it isn't the answer and is never something SAF has done or needed to do in his building of great United sides.
I honestly think if we sign Modric then other clubs in the league wouldn't stand a chance and we'd pretty much be set for the next 4/5 years
No. A very different player who played nearly all his football in a 2 man midfield and was regarded as a combative type before he joined us and largely played like a fanny.
Unless your buying the best player in the world i.e. Ronaldo, Messi or the best striker the world has to offer no one is spending over £40 believe me. Modric as good as a player he maybe he doesn't have the status to demand that value neither will clubs pay that for a no scoring (no creative in his style of play) midfielder.
He's played on the wing and in the centre over the past 3 years, that's the point.
feck me he'd be perfect for us right now
He wouldn't, he would still be overrun by Premier League sides. He wasn't up to the pace.
Looked good in Europe though.
he really wasn't.
Modric, you spastic. Do you even know what you're talking about? 'I love Chelsea, they're a top side'. No they're not, feckwit. They're a terminal plastic piece of shit
Well he was more on the flank which does bring some responsibility as opposed to being the 2nd most attacking player behind the striker. Still, it's not something I can be arsed with.
he's just whoring himself out Crustanoid, chill
