Luka Modric / Signs for Real Madrid

Maybe, but then if he half-asses it then maybe he also won't get whatever "dream move" he wants, because the other club(s) in question might change their minds.

Playing the half-assed game cuts both ways. Spurs can absorb the damage more than Modric can if it comes to that.

See my previous post. You're living in cuckoo land if you think nobody would want Modric after one poor season.
 
There were a few issues with your second question pocco.

He wants to go to a premiership rival. And not just a team in the same league as us but one in the same city. Remember the huge fuss Ferguson made about Heinze. If Modric wants to leave, I'd rather sell him abroad, even if for 5/10 million less.

The principle. A player throws his toys out of the pram and we sell immediately? As we have done in the past? At least hand in the transfer request you wretch so we don't pay you the loyalty bonus.

The offer that's been made. 22 million is derisory. It seems like Abrahmovich isn't too fussed about going a great deal higher. With the way he's agitating, 40-50 million might be able to get us to sell. Is he worth that? Of course not. Then again, taking all into consideration; our financial position, Levy's stubbornness, the length of his contract, Abrahmovich's deep pockets, city rivals and their underhand tactics, They can stump up if they so wish.
 
Got to consider the impact this hard stance will have on future purchases too, why would a top player want to come to Spurs if they're treated like shit after realising they want to leave?
Treated like shit? Spurs were the club that took him from a shit league, brought him to the Prem and boosted his career considerably.

The guy signed a SIX year contract only last summer with the prospect of CL football in front of him. That contract contained NO clause about letting him go if amount X was bid or club Y bid for him. He didn't have to sign it, he freely chose to sign it.

But now that CL football is not available this time around, he suddenly wants out. Well, gee that's tough.

If he'd wanted a get-out clause in his contract then he should have refused to sign it. So now he's left claiming a "verbal agreement" which (a) the club deny existed and (b) which in any case, even according to Modric's version of events, didn't involve the club in doing anything more than "consider" selling him.

What's happened here is that Modric has been stupid enough to believe in the Chelsea "play-book" (of how to "force a transfer") that he and his agent have probably been fed via unauthorised contacts with gangster Abramovich and his cronies.
 
He won't sit on the bench, he'll sensible up and realise that if he doesn't play well this season no one will want to buy him next year and the 'dream' will be over.

I'm not sure it works like this. Top players are gonna get bought by the big clubs regardless of their form. Torres pretty much did feck all the whole season for Liverpool and still Chelsea were happy to shell out 50Mil for him.
 
If Levy had spent the cash in the summer rather then panicking and trying to buy a striker in the January window they might not have been in this position with Modric in the first place.

The inspiring signing of a 50 year old keeper must really give Modric and Bale the confidence that Spurs will be challenging for the Champion's League again next season.

Bang on the head. I thought it was rather amusing, how Spurs spend the last day of Jan transfer window bidding for many European strikers.
 
Maybe, but then if he half-asses it then maybe he also won't get whatever "dream move" he wants, because the other club(s) in question might change their minds.

Playing the half-assed game cuts both ways. Spurs can absorb the damage more than Modric can if it comes to that.

You could feasibly get away with keeping an unhappy player for a season on the understanding that he'll get his move at the end of it, but its not a long term deal. Before long he'll start to poison the dressing room and hinder more than he helps, without the drive to be playing for your team.

No matter what happens this is the beginning of the end of Modric at Spurs.
 
I'm not sure it works like this. Top players are gonna get bought by the big clubs regardless of their form. Torres pretty much did feck all the whole season for Liverpool and still Chelsea were happy to shell out 50Mil for him.

Well, isn't that a rebuttal to those who say if we force Modric to stay, he'll be putting in shit performances and we'll be begging Chelsea to make their generous 22 million offer again the season after?

I'm inclined to agree with Pete. We force him to stay, he'll buckle down and play as normal for the season imo. Its no use to his career to simply mope around and play like crap for the season.
 
See my previous post. You're living in cuckoo land if you think nobody would want Modric after one poor season.
I didn't say that "nobody" would want him.

I said that if he plays half-assed for a season - in protest - then that will damage him both in terms of professional reputation and perceptions of his playing ability.

In which case, he'd risk not getting the move he wants and might end up having to settle for a less ideal move.
 
Well, isn't that a rebuttal to those who say if we force Modric to stay, he'll be putting in shit performances and we'll be begging Chelsea to make their generous 22 million offer again the season after?

I'm inclined to agree with Pete. We force him to stay, he'll buckle down and play as normal for the season imo. Its no use to his career to simply mope around and play like crap for the season.

You'll probably get a bit of both like with Berbatov. Moping around, complaining at his team mates all the time, but a decent final season
 
Treated like shit? Spurs were the club that took him from a shit league, brought him to the Prem and boosted his career considerably.

The guy signed a SIX year contract only last summer with the prospect of CL football in front of him. That contract contained NO clause about letting him go if amount X was bid or club Y bid for him. He didn't have to sign it, he freely chose to sign it.

But now that CL football is not available this time around, he suddenly wants out. Well, gee that's tough.

If he'd wanted a get-out clause in his contract then he should have refused to sign it. So now he's left claiming a "verbal agreement" which (a) the club deny existed and (b) which in any case, even according to Modric's version of events, didn't involve the club in doing anything more than "consider" selling him.

What's happened here is that Modric has been stupid enough to believe in the Chelsea "play-book" (of how to "force a transfer") that he and his agent have probably been fed via unauthorised contacts with gangster Abramovich and his cronies.

Glaston just out of interest how are we going to settle our debt?
Would you like to exchange Paypal details so the loser can pay or do you have any other suggestions?
 
You could feasibly get away with keeping an unhappy player for a season on the understanding that he'll get his move at the end of it, but its not a long term deal. Before long he'll start to poison the dressing room and hinder more than he helps, without the drive to be playing for your team.

No matter what happens this is the beginning of the end of Modric at Spurs.
Not necessarily. It depends on what happens this season - where Spurs finish in the league, if we win a trophy etc.

And this saga could end up damaging Chelsea also. If, for arguments sake, you accept my view that Modric won't be sold, then Chelsea could waste their entire summer pursuing a lost cause, missing out on other CM targets as a result.

Right now their CM isn't so fantastic: a crocked Essien, an ageing Lampard and one or two other CM players that don't look all that great to me.

Football is a funny old game. There are no guarantees that Chelsea are going to have a great season and Spurs won't ...
 
Glaston just out of interest how are we going to settle our debt?
Would you like to exchange Paypal details so the loser can pay or do you have any other suggestions?
Paypal is fine by me.

If I win then I'm planning to pass on the money to the COYS (Come on You Spurs) forum , so I'd just give you their PayPal details. If I lose then I'll pay into whatever PayPal account you nominate.

But we can sort the details when the window has closed ...
 
Not necessarily. It depends on what happens this season - where Spurs finish in the league, if we win a trophy etc.

And this saga could end up damaging Chelsea also. If, for arguments sake, you accept my view that Modric won't be sold, then Chelsea could waste their entire summer pursuing a lost cause, missing out on other CM targets as a result.

Right now their CM isn't so fantastic: a crocked Essien, an ageing Lampard and one or two other CM players that don't look all that great to me.

Football is a funny old game. There are no guarantees that Chelsea are going to have a great season and Spurs won't ...

Whether Modric stays put or not, Spurs won't finish above Chelsea. With that "shit" midfield we were still far better than you last season and will improve the squad even further before the window closes.

As for winning trophies, your best player is desperate to leave you to join Chelsea because he wants to win trophies. He doesn't want to spend the next few years playing unknown clubs from far corners of Europe on Thursday night. Modric knows better than anyone here, including you, what his current team is capable of and how far they can go.

It's one thing to support your team and be a bit biased in their favor. But suggesting that right now this Spurs team will be a better proposition for Modric than Chelsea is delusional. Next season CFC will be again a contender in the BPL and competing against the best continental clubs in the CL, like they've done the last eight years. Tottenham will be a longshot for a fourth spot and more likely busy fighting for a Europa League place.
 
Not necessarily. It depends on what happens this season - where Spurs finish in the league, if we win a trophy etc.

Dont be silly. Modric is angry that Levy hasnt kept his word, it wont matter if you win the treble he wants out and as soon as possible. Its no longer about professional football prospects, its now about trust, respect and leaving as soon as possible.

And this saga could end up damaging Chelsea also. If, for arguments sake, you accept my view that Modric won't be sold, then Chelsea could waste their entire summer pursuing a lost cause, missing out on other CM targets as a result.

Right now their CM isn't so fantastic: a crocked Essien, an ageing Lampard and one or two other CM players that don't look all that great to me.

Football is a funny old game. There are no guarantees that Chelsea are going to have a great season and Spurs won't ...

He wont care. Anywhere but Spurs
 
Whether Modric stays put or not, Spurs won't finish above Chelsea. With that "shit" midfield we were still far better than you last season and will improve the squad even further before the window closes.

As for winning trophies, your best player is desperate to leave you to join Chelsea because he wants to win trophies. He doesn't want to spend the next few years playing unknown clubs from far corners of Europe on Thursday night. Modric knows better than anyone here, including you, what his current team is capable of and how far they can go.

It's one thing to support your team and be a bit biased in their favor. But suggesting that right now this Spurs team will be a better proposition for Modric than Chelsea is delusional. Next season CFC will be again a contender in the BPL and competing against the best continental clubs in the CL, like they've done the last eight years. Tottenham will be a longshot for a fourth spot and more likely busy fighting for a Europa League place.
That would be fine if I had said this - but I didn't, so your point falls flat.

I merely said that there are few guarantees of anything in football. Your belief that Chelsea are guaranteed to have a better season than Spurs is complacent. Not long ago Liverpool fans thought the same of their club.
 
As I said before, Levy does his business in a meticulous manner. I personally am not so convinced of this 'gentlemen's agreement' between Modric and Levy.
 
That would be fine if I had said this - but I didn't, so your point falls flat.

I merely said that there are few guarantees of anything in football. Your belief that Chelsea are guaranteed to have a better season than Spurs is complacent. Not long ago Liverpool fans thought the same of their club.

Whilst I never like to be absolute, I would be absolutely stunned if that were to happen - talk about fading midfields - I don't agree but I can see your point of view, but when you have such a lack of strikers whilst we have Drogba, Torres, Anelka and Sturridge to call upon that cancels such arguments out and then some.
 
Football is a funny old game. There are no guarantees that Chelsea are going to have a great season and Spurs won't ...

Easy money someone...
 
Paypal is fine by me.

If I win then I'm planning to pass on the money to the COYS (Come on You Spurs) forum , so I'd just give you their PayPal details. If I lose then I'll pay into whatever PayPal account you nominate.

But we can sort the details when the window has closed ...

No probs,I am keeping the lot if I win.
 
Whilst I never like to be absolute, I would be absolutely stunned if that were to happen - talk about fading midfields - I don't agree but I can see your point of view, but when you have such a lack of strikers whilst we have Drogba, Torres, Anelka and Sturridge to call upon that cancels such arguments out and then some.
The window has a long way to run yet ... who knows which players Spurs may sign.

But I do know that right now I prefer the Spurs midfield to yours, both in CM and in wider positions.
 
There's no way that Levy gave a commitment that Modric could go, he's much too canny for that.

Was there ever an agreement.... of course there was.


Is Levy a scumbag money grabber...... of course he is.


Will Levy ever tell the truth...... of course not.



Is Modric fecked? Yes until he speaks with Berba!

:D

He is, pure and simple, a cnut! :-)
 
The window has a long way to run yet ... who knows which players Spurs may sign.

But I do know that right now I prefer the Spurs midfield to yours, both in CM and in wider positions.


Might as well get your bitching in, whilst we decide who is good enough!! .....
;-)
 
The window has a long way to run yet ... who knows which players Spurs may sign.

But I do know that right now I prefer the Spurs midfield to yours, both in CM and in wider positions.

Out of interest how much do you think you would have to spend to get a range of strikers as good as those at Chelsea?
 
The window has a long way to run yet ... who knows which players Spurs may sign.

But I do know that right now I prefer the Spurs midfield to yours, both in CM and in wider positions.

No decent defenders or forwards. The window has a long way to run for all teams, and your best midfielder might not be around much longer.
 
The window has a long way to run yet ... who knows which players Spurs may sign.

But I do know that right now I prefer the Spurs midfield to yours, both in CM and in wider positions.

You'd prefer Bale and Lennon to Nani, Valencia, Young and Park? :wenger:
 
It would appear so.

Charlenefan, while I can't speak for Glaston's opinion on your midfield, that comment was aimed at a Chelsea fan.

Sultan, I think the no decent defenders comment is unfair tbh. The front 4 are a bunch of utter donkeys though.

And I'm not really sure how this has turned into a discussion of whether we'll finish above Chelsea or not. For the near future, barring a sudden collapse from Chelsea, our takeover by some oligarch or UEFA actually growing some balls, they'll finish above us and win more trophies. When you throw hundreds of millions at something, you're inevitably going to make it a success.
 
Out of interest how much do you think you would have to spend to get a range of strikers as good as those at Chelsea?
Perhaps a better question would be: how much money have we spent acquiring a midfield quartet that's better than yours?

I know it's hard for a Chelsea fan to grasp, but not everything necessarily depends on money.