Luka Modric / Signs for Real Madrid

GlastonSpur said:
You're perhaps forgetting that Modric's contract runs until 2016 and that he signed a new, 6 year contract only last summer.

This alone makes his situation very different from that of Berbatov's at the time.
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That's odd considering it's illegal. You can sign for a maximum of 5 years.
 
Sean_RedDevil said:
That means nothing.
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That's obviously not true.

Having 5 year's left (from this summer) to run on a contract means that a club is under no extra financial pressure to sell, whereas if there is just 1 or 2 years left a club will know that if they resist selling then they stand to lose the player later for much less money ... or even nothing if the contract expires.

A long contract also gives a club more moral leverage over a player. And it also gives them more disciplinary leverage if push comes to shove and a club wishes to play hardball.

The tired old notion that player contracts are not worth the paper they are written on is - at least partially - just so much hokum.
 
Doogie said:
It's not illegal and he did sign a 6 year contract
Luka signs new six-year contract - News Articles - Tottenhamhotspur.com

Fabregas signed a new eight-year contract in 2006
Biography | Cesc Fabregas | Players | First Team | Arsenal.com
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Well, this one here says otherwise
The minimum length of a contract shall be from its effective date until
the end of the season, while the maximum length of a contract shall
be fi ve years
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http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/administration/01/06/30/78/statusinhalt_en_122007.pdf

It also says that if the player is under 18 then the contract can be three years at the most.

UEFA has probably allowed these contracts to happen as it's another governing body or something like that.
 
It also says "Contracts of any other length shall only be permitted if consistent with national laws."
So UK law must differ from FIFA ones
 
GlastonSpur said:
That's obviously not true.

Having 5 year's left (from this summer) to run on a contract means that a club is under no extra financial pressure to sell, whereas if there is just 1 or 2 years left a club will know that if they resist selling then they stand to lose the player later for much less money ... or even nothing if the contract expires.

A long contract also gives a club more moral leverage over a player. And it also gives them more disciplinary leverage if push comes to shove and a club wishes to play hardball.

The tired old notion that player contracts are not worth the paper they are written on is - at least partially - just so much hokum.
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yes but if modric wants to go it disrupt the dressing room and leave u in a tailspin
 
Modric is better than VDV. The latter has got the stats but Modric runs the show. I bet they value the former as much more important to the team than VDV.
 
Ekeke said:
8 assists 2 goals last season

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He created more goals for Valencia than any of his team mates, including Silva. Not really something you can say about "destroyers" and something you cannot say about Modric. VDV is the player who creates for Spurs and he got 7 assists in la liga last season.
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Well if you referring to last season... I did watch a few matches where he probably did everything wanted from a MF.

Anyhow, if your box-to-box ala Roy Keane style, the assists should be up there, he has failed to dominate this season though....

And I was mostly referring to this season's form.

So no debate if u were going to refer to last season.
 
amolbhatia100 said:
Modric is better than VDV. The latter has got the stats but Modric runs the show. I bet they value the former as much more important to the team than VDV.
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Its hard to compare though as VDV is deployed behind the hole where he is tightly marked and will hardly get a sniff on the ball, as where Modric will link the play, and practically does a free role and tried to dribble and create something.

VDV's probably smarter in the final third, Modric just gets more of the ball and thus he looks better.

For our 4-4-2 though, Modric will suit us more than VDV and thats what we should care about.
 
Back, muppets, back!

Tottenham boss Harry Redknapp has claimed no club could bid enough money to convince him to part with Luka Modric.

Croatia midfielder Modric has been in scintillating form for Spurs this season, playing a key role in their run to the Champions League quarter-finals on their debut in the competition.

The 25-year-old has been linked with a host of rival clubs, including Chelsea, Juventus and Inter Milan.

But speaking to Croatian newspaper Sportske Novosti, Redknapp said: "I wouldn't want to sell him for £100million, not even for a billion.

"He's the hub of the team."

Modric signed a new six-year contract contract with Tottenham last summer and his agent Mario Mamic dismissed speculation about a move away.

"These are just rumours," he told Calcio Mercato.

"Luka has a contract until 2016 and Tottenham have no plans to sell him.

"He has an excellent relationship with the coach, Redknapp, and only signed a contract extension with Spurs last summer."
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Lance Uppercut said:
You have no place in this forum, Walker. Beat it.
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As the King Muppet, I already decreed this and so it has been sown. Pastore out of the equation for the summer, De Rossi (even though he's crap) out of the equation, Modric out of the equation. Sanchez, Ninis, Defour and of course my favoured warrior the lord Hamsik still in.
 
RedThaiDevils#7 said:
Well if you referring to last season... I did watch a few matches where he probably did everything wanted from a MF.

Anyhow, if your box-to-box ala Roy Keane style, the assists should be up there, he has failed to dominate this season though....

And I was mostly referring to this season's form.

So no debate if u were going to refer to last season.
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Nature doesnt change with form. Just because he had fallings out with the manager earlier in the season and his form wasnt very good when coming back from his injury, not helped by being asked to play in the hole when he's never looked comfortable there - it doesnt change him from "a midfielder that does everything" into "a destroyer".

For a number of months now he's been back playing excellent football, he's also become a starter for Argentina.
 
Modric is FAR more important to Spurs than either VdV or Bale. They only have the juiced stats due to him, it's like Xabi, stats don't go in his favor, but he's far more important to Real(and Liverpool before that) than say Ozil/Gerrard with higher stats were.
 
Stats Modric

seizoen club wedstrijden doelpunten competitie
2004/05 Inter Zapresic 18 4 Kroatie
2004/05 Dinamo Zagreb 6 0 Kroatie
2005/06 Dinamo Zagreb 32 8 Kroatie
2006/07 Dinamo Zagreb 30 6 Kroatie
2008/09 Tottenham Hotspur 34 3 Premier League
2009/10 Tottenham Hotspur 25 3 Premier League
2010/11 Tottenham Hotspur 23 1 Premier League
Totalen: 168 25




Stats van der Vaart


2004/05 Ajax 22 6 Eredivisie
2005/06 Hamburger SV 19 9 Bundesliga
2006/07 Hamburger SV 26 8 Bundesliga
2007/08 Hamburger SV 29 12 Bundesliga
2008/09 Real Madrid 32 5 Primera Division
2009/10 Real Madrid 26 6 Primera Division
2010/11 Tottenham Hotspur 19 10 Premier League
Totalen: 268 102
 
Sonny1972 said:
Stats van der Vaart


2004/05 Ajax 22 6 Eredivisie
2005/06 Hamburger SV 19 9 Bundesliga
2006/07 Hamburger SV 26 8 Bundesliga
2007/08 Hamburger SV 29 12 Bundesliga
2008/09 Real Madrid 32 5 Primera Division
2009/10 Real Madrid 26 6 Primera Division
2010/11 Tottenham Hotspur 19 10 Premier League
Totalen: 268 102
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The "totalen" are totally wrong.
 
Giggs has just 8 more goals in 14 more seasons, I guess that shows VDV's better than him too.

EDIT: 56 is not the same as 102. Easily mixed up though, of course.
 
Van der Vaart


1999/00 Ajax 1 0 Eredivisie
2000/01 Ajax 27 7 Eredivisie
2001/02 Ajax 20 14 Eredivisie
2002/03 Ajax 21 18 Eredivisie
2003/04 Ajax 26 7 Eredivisie
2004/05 Ajax 22 6 Eredivisie
2005/06 Hamburger SV 19 9 Bundesliga
2006/07 Hamburger SV 26 8 Bundesliga
2007/08 Hamburger SV 29 12 Bundesliga
2008/09 Real Madrid 32 5 Primera Division
2009/10 Real Madrid 26 6 Primera Division
2010/11 Tottenham Hotspur 19 10 Premier League
Totalen: 268 102
 
Modric



2004/05 Inter Zapresic 18 4 Kroatie
2004/05 Dinamo Zagreb 6 0 Kroatie
2005/06 Dinamo Zagreb 32 8 Kroatie
2006/07 Dinamo Zagreb 30 6 Kroatie
2008/09 Tottenham Hotspur 34 3 Premier League
2009/10 Tottenham Hotspur 25 3 Premier League
2010/11 Tottenham Hotspur 23 1 Premier League
Totalen: 168 25
 
What are you trying to prove? They play different roles, comparing them by goals is stupidity.
 
Ekeke said:
Where VDV will be the one with cutting edge

Nobody is denying that Modric is very good with his general play and moving the ball around. But he doesnt do enough defensively to be the holding player of a pair, and he doesnt do much to affect the scoreline which leaves him short as the attacker of the pair.
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In a two man midfield the 'more attacking' of the pair still doesn't have to directly score or assist. Obviously it's great if he does, but the far more important thing for them to do is to dominate the midfield, set the tempo of the match and start attacking moves (where invariably someone else gets the assist).

Scholes in 06/07 is a great example. Arguably his best ever season (certainly in his top two IMO) and yet if I remember correctly he had something like four assists. But what happened time and time and time again was that he'd play a brilliant pass to put the winger into huge amount of space, and then the winger would have the fairly easy job of passing or crossing into the box for someone else to score. The winger got the assist, but it was always Scholes who truly created the goals.

That's what we need now. We have plenty of people who can play the final ball. Nani, Valencia, Rooney, Berbatov...all are great at it. What we lack is someone who can start the attacking moves on a regular basis and get it to these players in a fantastic position. Modric would do that. Unfortunately he won't be coming. Not yet anyway. If Spurs miss out on the CL I'm sure he'll stay there another year, but if they miss out again the following year then he might start questioning where he wants to be.
 
Next year we'll need to buy at least a keeper and a midfielder. Considering that the former will cost us around 10-20m then I doubt that we'll have the necessary transfer kitty to spend another 30-40m on Modric. Henderson or Charlie Adams are more realistic targets.
 
MrMarcello said:
Harry said he wouldn't sell Modric for one billion. No, but your chairman would.
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Yes, but he will have a crazy price tag attached to him considering they do not nees to sell. Also, remember that he cost them £16.5m in the first place at the time when he was completely unproven as he had only played in Croatian league, it was even before the Euro 2008 where he emerged as a top talent. I think it would take about three times as much to take him now. We are definitely not in possession of that kind of money.
 
devilish said:
Next year we'll need to buy at least a keeper and a midfielder. Considering that the former will cost us around 10-20m then I doubt that we'll have the necessary transfer kitty to spend another 30-40m on Modric. Henderson or Charlie Adams are more realistic targets.
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I think we will sign a goalkeeper for around £10m and maybe Ashley Young as he will be available at low fee due to his contract situation. Then maybe Henderson or Adam if we can get them for less than £15m. We will partly cover that with departure of a few players.
 
I can't believe people want Henderson over Modric, we're United, not the scousers who go for 2nd rate players...

Realistic or not, SAF will decide and I bet he will pull a surprise.

How much have people watched Hnderson anyway, okay he's a youngster getting full play time at Sunderland and showed some skill so far, but he won't improve what we already have...
 
Sarni said:
I think we will sign a goalkeeper for around £10m and maybe Ashley Young as he will be available at low fee due to his contract situation. Then maybe Henderson or Adam if we can get them for less than £15m. We will partly cover that with departure of a few players.
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That's what I think too.
 
Modric has certainly outshone VDV this season, and by quite some distance too.

VDV wouldn't fit us at all so I don't really understand why people want us to sign him whereas Modric would be pretty much a near perfect. He would be as close as you could get to a risk free signing, he's shown he can play in a 2 man midfield at the top level, he's proven in the Premier League and he plays in a team which operate in a similar way to ours (two fast wingers, counter-attacks).

He'll cost a tonne though, wouldn't surprise me if it was over £35m.
 
Aint gota Kalou said:
Modric has certainly outshone VDV this season, and by quite some distance too.

VDV wouldn't fit us at all so I don't really understand why people want us to sign him whereas Modric would be pretty much a near perfect. He would be as close as you could get to a risk free signing, he's shown he can play in a 2 man midfield at the top level, he's proven in the Premier League and he plays in a team which operate in a similar way to ours (two fast wingers, counter-attacks).

He'll cost a tonne though, wouldn't surprise me if it was over £35m.
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Based on his early season form I could understand it plus the fee he was bought for has been rather unfairly compared to Bebe's on many forums and debates.
 
Aint gota Kalou said:
Modric has certainly outshone VDV this season, and by quite some distance too.

VDV wouldn't fit us at all so I don't really understand why people want us to sign him whereas Modric would be pretty much a near perfect. He would be as close as you could get to a risk free signing, he's shown he can play in a 2 man midfield at the top level, he's proven in the Premier League and he plays in a team which operate in a similar way to ours (two fast wingers, counter-attacks).

He'll cost a tonne though, wouldn't surprise me if it was over £35m.
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I would be shocked if he cost less than £35m.
 
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